Ebola patient in Texas has died

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm shocked that no one from that apartment is showing any symptoms . I'm just stunned that they didn't get it after being in such close contact with him.


Give it time. It can take up to 30 days to show symptoms. It's only 10/11, nobody is out of the woods yet.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm shocked that no one from that apartment is showing any symptoms . I'm just stunned that they didn't get it after being in such close contact with him.


Give it time. It can take up to 30 days to show symptoms. It's only 10/11, nobody is out of the woods yet.


Up to 21 days, not 30. And the majority develop symptoms within 10 days of exposure.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm shocked that no one from that apartment is showing any symptoms . I'm just stunned that they didn't get it after being in such close contact with him.


Me too, it's incredible and I am looking forward to when they get a clean bill of health - it must be so frightening and stressful for them.

Also, I'm happy for all the people who have been saying some of us are overreacting to be so concerned about it spreading to be right. I will be thrilled to be able to say I was wrong to worry.


The fact that no one is showing signs of ebola is unusual. Louise Troh was his fiance and he was the parent of one of her children . Given the visit reunited lovers one would think she had sex with Duncan. She is 54 and he is 42. If avoiding pregnancy she might have used a condom but at her age? What are the chances of getting ebola during sex? Even if cured it lives in semen for months. So how stupid are we?
http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/417254.page aids
http://online.wsj.com/articles/liberians-last-days-in-dallas-with-ebola-come-into-focus-1412983466

Ebola fiance and family complaining about this guy not getting a drug we don't have.


Interesting that the Spanish nurse apparently received a dose of zMapp yesterday. That can't look good to Duncan's family.

http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/ebola-infected-spanish-nurse-improving-health-source-article-1.1970896


That is f'ed up!!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Duncan's temperature read 97.3 in Liberia screening. Sound right to anyone?


Why wouldn't that be right?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm shocked that no one from that apartment is showing any symptoms . I'm just stunned that they didn't get it after being in such close contact with him.


Me too, it's incredible and I am looking forward to when they get a clean bill of health - it must be so frightening and stressful for them.

Also, I'm happy for all the people who have been saying some of us are overreacting to be so concerned about it spreading to be right. I will be thrilled to be able to say I was wrong to worry.


The fact that no one is showing signs of ebola is unusual. Louise Troh was his fiance and he was the parent of one of her children . Given the visit reunited lovers one would think she had sex with Duncan. She is 54 and he is 42. If avoiding pregnancy she might have used a condom but at her age? What are the chances of getting ebola during sex? Even if cured it lives in semen for months. So how stupid are we?
http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/417254.page aids
http://online.wsj.com/articles/liberians-last-days-in-dallas-with-ebola-come-into-focus-1412983466

Ebola fiance and family complaining about this guy not getting a drug we don't have.


Interesting that the Spanish nurse apparently received a dose of zMapp yesterday. That can't look good to Duncan's family.

http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/ebola-infected-spanish-nurse-improving-health-source-article-1.1970896


That is f'ed up!!


Maybe Spain had some left over after treating the priest who died, even though supplies in the US were exhausted?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm shocked that no one from that apartment is showing any symptoms . I'm just stunned that they didn't get it after being in such close contact with him.


Me too, it's incredible and I am looking forward to when they get a clean bill of health - it must be so frightening and stressful for them.

Also, I'm happy for all the people who have been saying some of us are overreacting to be so concerned about it spreading to be right. I will be thrilled to be able to say I was wrong to worry.


The fact that no one is showing signs of ebola is unusual. Louise Troh was his fiance and he was the parent of one of her children . Given the visit reunited lovers one would think she had sex with Duncan. She is 54 and he is 42. If avoiding pregnancy she might have used a condom but at her age? What are the chances of getting ebola during sex? Even if cured it lives in semen for months. So how stupid are we?
http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/417254.page aids
http://online.wsj.com/articles/liberians-last-days-in-dallas-with-ebola-come-into-focus-1412983466

Ebola fiance and family complaining about this guy not getting a drug we don't have.


Interesting that the Spanish nurse apparently received a dose of zMapp yesterday. That can't look good to Duncan's family.

http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/ebola-infected-spanish-nurse-improving-health-source-article-1.1970896


Not to mention US citizen Mr. Mupko (who is getting same experimental drug Mr. Duncan received).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm shocked that no one from that apartment is showing any symptoms . I'm just stunned that they didn't get it after being in such close contact with him.


Me too, it's incredible and I am looking forward to when they get a clean bill of health - it must be so frightening and stressful for them.

Also, I'm happy for all the people who have been saying some of us are overreacting to be so concerned about it spreading to be right. I will be thrilled to be able to say I was wrong to worry.


The fact that no one is showing signs of ebola is unusual. Louise Troh was his fiance and he was the parent of one of her children . Given the visit reunited lovers one would think she had sex with Duncan. She is 54 and he is 42. If avoiding pregnancy she might have used a condom but at her age? What are the chances of getting ebola during sex? Even if cured it lives in semen for months. So how stupid are we?
http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/417254.page aids
http://online.wsj.com/articles/liberians-last-days-in-dallas-with-ebola-come-into-focus-1412983466

Ebola fiance and family complaining about this guy not getting a drug we don't have.


Interesting that the Spanish nurse apparently received a dose of zMapp yesterday. That can't look good to Duncan's family.

http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/ebola-infected-spanish-nurse-improving-health-source-article-1.1970896


Not to mention US citizen Mr. Mupko (who is getting same experimental drug Mr. Duncan received).


Did Duncan receive the antibodies from Brantley like Mupko did?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm shocked that no one from that apartment is showing any symptoms . I'm just stunned that they didn't get it after being in such close contact with him.


Me too, it's incredible and I am looking forward to when they get a clean bill of health - it must be so frightening and stressful for them.

Also, I'm happy for all the people who have been saying some of us are overreacting to be so concerned about it spreading to be right. I will be thrilled to be able to say I was wrong to worry.


The fact that no one is showing signs of ebola is unusual. Louise Troh was his fiance and he was the parent of one of her children . Given the visit reunited lovers one would think she had sex with Duncan. She is 54 and he is 42. If avoiding pregnancy she might have used a condom but at her age? What are the chances of getting ebola during sex? Even if cured it lives in semen for months. So how stupid are we?
http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/417254.page aids
http://online.wsj.com/articles/liberians-last-days-in-dallas-with-ebola-come-into-focus-1412983466

Ebola fiance and family complaining about this guy not getting a drug we don't have.


Interesting that the Spanish nurse apparently received a dose of zMapp yesterday. That can't look good to Duncan's family.

http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/ebola-infected-spanish-nurse-improving-health-source-article-1.1970896


Not to mention US citizen Mr. Mupko (who is getting same experimental drug Mr. Duncan received).


Did Duncan receive the antibodies from Brantley like Mupko did?



No, but that only works if they have the same blood type. It's been reported that they did not.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm shocked that no one from that apartment is showing any symptoms . I'm just stunned that they didn't get it after being in such close contact with him.


Me too, it's incredible and I am looking forward to when they get a clean bill of health - it must be so frightening and stressful for them.

Also, I'm happy for all the people who have been saying some of us are overreacting to be so concerned about it spreading to be right. I will be thrilled to be able to say I was wrong to worry.


The fact that no one is showing signs of ebola is unusual. Louise Troh was his fiance and he was the parent of one of her children . Given the visit reunited lovers one would think she had sex with Duncan. She is 54 and he is 42. If avoiding pregnancy she might have used a condom but at her age? What are the chances of getting ebola during sex? Even if cured it lives in semen for months. So how stupid are we?
http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/417254.page aids
http://online.wsj.com/articles/liberians-last-days-in-dallas-with-ebola-come-into-focus-1412983466

Ebola fiance and family complaining about this guy not getting a drug we don't have.


Interesting that the Spanish nurse apparently received a dose of zMapp yesterday. That can't look good to Duncan's family.

http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/ebola-infected-spanish-nurse-improving-health-source-article-1.1970896


Not to mention US citizen Mr. Mupko (who is getting same experimental drug Mr. Duncan received).


Although Mukpo seems to be improving while Mr. Duncan died.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm shocked that no one from that apartment is showing any symptoms . I'm just stunned that they didn't get it after being in such close contact with him.


Me too, it's incredible and I am looking forward to when they get a clean bill of health - it must be so frightening and stressful for them.

Also, I'm happy for all the people who have been saying some of us are overreacting to be so concerned about it spreading to be right. I will be thrilled to be able to say I was wrong to worry.


The fact that no one is showing signs of ebola is unusual. Louise Troh was his fiance and he was the parent of one of her children . Given the visit reunited lovers one would think she had sex with Duncan. She is 54 and he is 42. If avoiding pregnancy she might have used a condom but at her age? What are the chances of getting ebola during sex? Even if cured it lives in semen for months. So how stupid are we?
http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/417254.page aids
http://online.wsj.com/articles/liberians-last-days-in-dallas-with-ebola-come-into-focus-1412983466

Ebola fiance and family complaining about this guy not getting a drug we don't have.


Interesting that the Spanish nurse apparently received a dose of zMapp yesterday. That can't look good to Duncan's family.

http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/ebola-infected-spanish-nurse-improving-health-source-article-1.1970896


Not to mention US citizen Mr. Mupko (who is getting same experimental drug Mr. Duncan received).


Although Mukpo seems to be improving while Mr. Duncan died.


Mukpo got earlier care in a more expert hospital, and also got the antibody transfusion. He also may just be less sick because he didn't have such an acute exposure to the virus. And as US citizen may have had a stronger immune system anyway.

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Duncan's temperature read 97.3 in Liberia screening. Sound right to anyone?


Why wouldn't that be right?


It sounds right to me. I took basal body temp for years.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm shocked that no one from that apartment is showing any symptoms . I'm just stunned that they didn't get it after being in such close contact with him.


Me too, it's incredible and I am looking forward to when they get a clean bill of health - it must be so frightening and stressful for them.

Also, I'm happy for all the people who have been saying some of us are overreacting to be so concerned about it spreading to be right. I will be thrilled to be able to say I was wrong to worry.


The fact that no one is showing signs of ebola is unusual. Louise Troh was his fiance and he was the parent of one of her children . Given the visit reunited lovers one would think she had sex with Duncan. She is 54 and he is 42. If avoiding pregnancy she might have used a condom but at her age? What are the chances of getting ebola during sex? Even if cured it lives in semen for months. So how stupid are we?
http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/417254.page aids
http://online.wsj.com/articles/liberians-last-days-in-dallas-with-ebola-come-into-focus-1412983466

Ebola fiance and family complaining about this guy not getting a drug we don't have.


Interesting that the Spanish nurse apparently received a dose of zMapp yesterday. That can't look good to Duncan's family.

http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/ebola-infected-spanish-nurse-improving-health-source-article-1.1970896


That is f'ed up!!


Maybe Spain had some left over after treating the priest who died, even though supplies in the US were exhausted?


Actually, she didn't get ZMapp. She got ZMab, which is another experimental serum made by the same company. http://politica.elpais.com/politica/2014/10/10/actualidad/1412975650_956849.html
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm shocked that no one from that apartment is showing any symptoms . I'm just stunned that they didn't get it after being in such close contact with him.


Me too, it's incredible and I am looking forward to when they get a clean bill of health - it must be so frightening and stressful for them.

Also, I'm happy for all the people who have been saying some of us are overreacting to be so concerned about it spreading to be right. I will be thrilled to be able to say I was wrong to worry.


The fact that no one is showing signs of ebola is unusual. Louise Troh was his fiance and he was the parent of one of her children . Given the visit reunited lovers one would think she had sex with Duncan. She is 54 and he is 42. If avoiding pregnancy she might have used a condom but at her age? What are the chances of getting ebola during sex? Even if cured it lives in semen for months. So how stupid are we?
http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/417254.page aids
http://online.wsj.com/articles/liberians-last-days-in-dallas-with-ebola-come-into-focus-1412983466

Ebola fiance and family complaining about this guy not getting a drug we don't have.


Interesting that the Spanish nurse apparently received a dose of zMapp yesterday. That can't look good to Duncan's family.

http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/ebola-infected-spanish-nurse-improving-health-source-article-1.1970896


Not to mention US citizen Mr. Mupko (who is getting same experimental drug Mr. Duncan received).


Although Mukpo seems to be improving while Mr. Duncan died.


Mukpo got earlier care in a more expert hospital, and also got the antibody transfusion. He also may just be less sick because he didn't have such an acute exposure to the virus. And as US citizen may have had a stronger immune system anyway



You can't argue that Duncan got the same level of care as Mukpo, and also argue that Mukpo is doing better because he got earlier care. The reason why Duncan's care was delayed is an undeniable example of poor care that he received. Other factors, such as whether he had the right blood type to receive a transfusion from someone who had been healed, or whether there was Z-Mapp available in his country, or simply how his body responded, all of those are simply bad luck, but turning him away the first time he arrived was the hospital's error.

Anonymous
I meant to say that I have no idea what your second statement that I bolded means.
Anonymous
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You can't argue that Duncan got the same level of care as Mukpo, and also argue that Mukpo is doing better because he got earlier care. The reason why Duncan's care was delayed is an undeniable example of poor care that he received. Other factors, such as whether he had the right blood type to receive a transfusion from someone who had been healed, or whether there was Z-Mapp available in his country, or simply how his body responded, all of those are simply bad luck, but turning him away the first time he arrived was the hospital's error.



But that's partially his own fault. Why didn't he scream Ebola the first time? If I'd just come from Liberia and fell ill like that, I'd be terrified of it. I wouldn't let them send me home with antibiotics. But keep insisting he got "poor care".
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