Any Jack & Jill members here?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They may be UMC/UC but not one of them is truely wealthy and never will be.

????

Anybody can become rich only a few are wealthy. Oprah is rich, the Rothschields are wealthy.

um ok, more impressed with Oprah's richness...considering the status of her ancestors in the 1700s and 1800s as compared to any Rothschields

[Anonymous]

OP. Why not join a friendly open church. Where do you live?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I would find other way to connect with others that look like me in my community if I lived someplace like say North Arlington or McLean. There are several organizations that you can achieve this through beyond Jack and Jill. I am an AKA and a lawyer so I know many people who belong, however I do not think it is for me. Many I know that belong are from multi-generations of success and higher education and have grandparents who were doctors, lawyers, etc. I am the first generation to make it big and I just don't click with most people of the ilk described in Our Kind of People http://www.amazon.com/Our-Kind-People-Inside-Americas/dp/0060984384

I find Mocha Moms to be more down to earth

Really? A link to our kinda people? Really!!!

Worst book ever.

[Anonymous]

OP here, Thanks for the responses.

We live on the Rockville/Potomac border. We've struggled to find diverse churches that are anywhere close to us. I have learned that Sunday is the most segregated day of the week.

We are members of the National Cathedral and while we love it there it currently doesn't have Sunday school or a youth group (just the nursery which DD has aged out of).


I tried Mocha Moms when DD was a toddler but the women in that MoCo chapter seemed only interested in putting on a show. It seemed VERY superficial. DH and I have money but nothing to prove. The last I heard was that chapter is now defunct.

I guess there isn't a right answer for us. I think that J&J may be too pretentious for me to deal with. What I really want is a diverse group of kids with whom DD shares many of the same experiences. J&J and Mocha Moms are certainly (and intentionally) not diverse but what is?

I guess my search continues. . .

[Anonymous]

Listen, it would be great for your kids. I used to be a member. I am no longer a member. It's a really great network for your kids. Remember, while the parents can get caught up in the Joneses, this org is really for the kids. Your kids should have many different networks of friends. This is just one more. I didn't think it was that expensive. It's fine.

I did not like Mocha Moms. Way too granola for me. It also depends on the chapter. I used to be a member of Montgomery County's chapter. It was ok. DC does a lot more for high school aged kids. You get to hear about many different programs and scholarships.

I don't know anything about the NOVA chapters. Moms will definitely make you feel welcome. The ONLY time I've seen animosity, is in divorce situations. When a new wife tries to come to things, the other moms GIVE HER HOLY HELL!

I have sons. They just didn't really like Jack and Jill, but it depends on the kids.

[Anonymous]

OP are you the nonblack one? Or is dd adopted?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here, Thanks for the responses.

We live on the Rockville/Potomac border. We've struggled to find diverse churches that are anywhere close to us. I have learned that Sunday is the most segregated day of the week.

We are members of the National Cathedral and while we love it there it currently doesn't have Sunday school or a youth group (just the nursery which DD has aged out of).


I tried Mocha Moms when DD was a toddler but the women in that MoCo chapter seemed only interested in putting on a show. It seemed VERY superficial. DH and I have money but nothing to prove. The last I heard was that chapter is now defunct.

I guess there isn't a right answer for us. I think that J&J may be too pretentious for me to deal with. What I really want is a diverse group of kids with whom DD shares many of the same experiences. J&J and Mocha Moms are certainly (and intentionally) not diverse but what is?

I guess my search continues. . .

If you're driving to DC as members of the National Cathedral, why not look at DC for other more diverse congregations (or AA churches) with better options for kids?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well, judging from the pictures on their website, a lot of their members don't look like Vanessa Williams or Halle Berry.

Maybe not, but they think they look like Vanessa Williams and Halle Berry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No way is this a real thing.

Yes it is very real. Read Lawrence Otis Graham's "Our Kind of People."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Listen, it would be great for your kids. I used to be a member. I am no longer a member. It's a really great network for your kids. Remember, while the parents can get caught up in the Joneses, this org is really for the kids. Your kids should have many different networks of friends. This is just one more. I didn't think it was that expensive. It's fine.

I did not like Mocha Moms. Way too granola for me. It also depends on the chapter. I used to be a member of Montgomery County's chapter. It was ok. DC does a lot more for high school aged kids. You get to hear about many different programs and scholarships.

I don't know anything about the NOVA chapters. Moms will definitely make you feel welcome. The ONLY time I've seen animosity, is in divorce situations. When a new wife tries to come to things, the other moms GIVE HER HOLY HELL!

I have sons. They just didn't really like Jack and Jill, but it depends on the kids.

I hated Mocha Moms too!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, judging from the pictures on their website, a lot of their members don't look like Vanessa Williams or Halle Berry.

Maybe not, but they think they look like Vanessa Williams and Halle Berry.

Jack and Jill has changed over the years. They're more inclusive now. However, some of the old guard families have left the organization due to them including certain people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP. Why not join a friendly open church. Where do you live?

Not all black people attend church or believe in God.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Listen, it would be great for your kids. I used to be a member. I am no longer a member. It's a really great network for your kids. Remember, while the parents can get caught up in the Joneses, this org is really for the kids. Your kids should have many different networks of friends. This is just one more. I didn't think it was that expensive. It's fine.

I did not like Mocha Moms. Way too granola for me. It also depends on the chapter. I used to be a member of Montgomery County's chapter. It was ok. DC does a lot more for high school aged kids. You get to hear about many different programs and scholarships.

I don't know anything about the NOVA chapters. Moms will definitely make you feel welcome. The ONLY time I've seen animosity, is in divorce situations. When a new wife tries to come to things, the other moms GIVE HER HOLY HELL!

I have sons. They just didn't really like Jack and Jill, but it depends on the kids.

I'm not black, but I had a lot of black friends in college. Many of them knew each other from J&J in high school. It did seem like a good networking opportunity.

[Anonymous]

Years ago, my best friend wanted to join but was told no, because she was biracial. I remember how upset her parents were. This was in the late 50s.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What is Jack & Jill?

An organization for elite, well educated, rich light-skinned Black folks that historically discriminated against those of the darker persuasion.

Oops... educated.

For real?