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This doesn’t surprise me one bit. Even their mugshots look the same. What a sick family.
PS I realize not the focus but damn these Duggar men don’t age well. Bloated, gross, fat, smarmy looking. |
There are a lot of of them, but I will say it seems like they’re losing their influence. When they lost their reality show the empire took a major hit. Some of the girls have tried to continue, but haven’t been able to get to the same level of success. Jim Bob tried to get into politics and was absolutely slaughtered in his primary so that ended that. And then of course Josh and these horrific crimes don’t help. When they came out on TLC decades ago, it was truly a phenomenon that someone was having that many kids and I think people were just really fascinated by the lifestyle. Now I feel like there’s so many more through social media that you can see that it gets really diluted. And then there is of course ballerina farm who while I don’t like her at least she doesn’t seem to be fundamentalist Christian and she’s just trying to sell us overpriced crap versus pushing a fundie agenda. There’s also been such a backlash with all kinds of series and documentaries about this family and under fundamentalist Christians, best selling books about reformed trad wives and reformed fundamentalists, and many have achieved influencer status in their own right. |
Just to make it clear, I have severe learning disabilities, had to go to summer school for two summers to barely graduate from high school, and rape and sexual abuse of children is completely abhorrent to me. It’s not rocket science. You don’t need to be smart or a mother to know that. |
+1 There’s no IQ test or some made up threshold to know this is abhorrent. The fact that she has kids is meaningless. She’s breeding them to turn out just like her husband and herself. That’s the literal goal here. In this day and age, there’s no excuse to stay. Staying is a nod of approval. |
The older girls have adapted. They have monetized YouTube channels and do podcasts. A few of them have book deals. They’re still hustling their lifestyle in the way they were raised to do. |
| TLC is complicit in this. They need their own reckoning. |
Absolutely. The Duggars are adherents of the The Institute in Basic Life Principles (IBLP). This is a conservative, non-denominational Christian organization founded by Bill Gothard in 1961. It promotes "seven principles" for life, focusing on strict biblical literalism, patriarchal authority, and separation from modern culture. The organization has faced serious accusations of religious legalism, abuse, and covering up misconduct. Bill Gothard (who is 92 years old now) was basically the cult leader. In 2014, he stepped down from IBLP after 34 women accused him of sexual harassment and molestation, with some incidents allegedly occurring when the victims were minors. In 2016, Gothard and IBLP were sued by a group of alleged victims, but the lawsuit was dismissed in 2018, as the statute of limitations had been exceeded. Gothard had many political connections with Republican political leaders, including Mike Huckabee, Sonny Perdue, and Sarah Palin. He has never been married, which I find to be extremely telling. The Duggars and the IBLP were the subject of the first season of the documentary series "Shiny Happy People." |
Well, the boys at least. It's what happens when boys / men are allowed to do whatever they want and girls / women are handmaidens to them. |
+1. These are all excuses. You can get a GED and become a CNA. I know CNAs making $50-80 k a year. |
One of the Duggar wives (Abbie) is a certified LPN who may or not have been working in the last few years. The eldest daughter, Jana was attending nursing school in recent years but I don’t know if she ever completed it. Progress! |
| I wonder if Josh abused his brothers too. This really just is sickening. |
I don’t think the lack of education and job skills are even the biggest obstacles these women face when it comes to the idea of forging a new life without their husbands. It’s the lifetime of indoctrination that they are tied to their husbands forever, that marriage is an unbreakable bond, that their fathers and then husbands are the spiritual leaders of their home, and that, as wives, they must be supplicant. It’s the threat that they will no longer have good standing in the only communities they have ever known if they don’t “keep sweet and obey.” |
They often blame the girls too. The whole over the top obsession with female modesty acts as though men are expected to be creeps who find a 9 year old wearing pants tempting. The whole posture puts shame on merely having a female body and no expectation for people not to be creeps. |
Came here to comment on this as well. The sane-washing of the extreme outlier practice of the Quiverful/Gothard world was really quite bizarre in retrospect. They were promoted, made famous and there was no critique of their lifestyle. They made piblic appearances as these fun, maybe kooky just-folks. The parents have that super-nice, gentle demeanor which translates as harmless and decent if that's all you see. They were depicted as being perfect, really. Even though I remember that lots of people knew about the cult and commenters on social media talked criticlly about the family, the network depicted as essentially benign; maybe a bit eccentric but "normal," when actually their beliefs are or were on the fringes. The truth is that it's very hard to live in any extreme religious community and there are a million examples throughout the years to prove it. |
I wasn’t saying you did. I was saying that the “Awww Anna’s dumb and doesn’t have a college degree” is an excuse. And, I didn’t say you need to be a mother to know that. I am simply saying I would expect a mother of young girls, regardless of her intelligence or degrees (or lack thereof) to put her kids’ safety first. |