Ending you Chicago haters once and for all
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Anonymous
If we assume the number of ED1 applicants are about the same across T10 schools, e.g., ~3000. Then the ED1 admit rate would be 1000/3000 = 33%. |
Anonymous
| You won't end it until they stop the practice of soliciting applications from kids who are not likely to be accepted (spray and pray marketing). |
Anonymous
Slightly different at our private, it is not where the top 10% go, but there are some top 20% who are risk averse to taking their chances in RD and EDII to UChicago after a deferral in REA ED. These are the kids most likely to regret it when they see where others get in RD. |
Anonymous
So is the 25th percentile. With comparable percentages of submitted scores. This has always been true. |
Anonymous
I don't get it. This is almost mathematically impossible. In order to get to 18%, even if every EA/ED admit was from ED, you would there to be fewer than 5556 ED applications. This doesn't sound right does it? |
Anonymous
What is the EDO admit rate? Rumors are 50%. Even if the 18% ED1 number is accurate as the early snapshot (which I doubt), it is not reflective of the overall ED admit rate. Why? Many ED1 are deferred. Some opt for and get in ED2. Changes the denominator. Almost all EA are deferred. Many apply and get in ED2. Changes the denominator. Can’t double-count same applicant as a reject from ED1 when an admit in ED2. Chicago knows this. They are deliberately obfuscating here. Chicago is also using a new tactic: accepting ED1 students as transfers a year later. This is all over reddit. These do not count as ED1 admits. We don’t know what the real denominator is because they want to obfuscate. Conservatively, it is 70%. That is a 26% ED1 admit rate. The middle estimate, if the denominator is 60%, is a 30% ED1 admit rate. The lower estimate, if the denominator is 50%, is a 36% ED1 admit rate. Taking the middle estimate of a 30% ED1 admit rate makes the most sense here. This admit rate used to be in the high 30s before ED0. But ED0 has an estimated 50% admit rate. The ED0/1 admit rate is therefore still in the high 30s. If Chicago wants to be transparent about these numbers, all it has to do is share them, as every other top 20 school does. They don’t, and instead give some obfuscating half truths because idiots like you don’t know any better, and want to believe ED admission at Chicago is much more competitive than it is. Any competent college counselor will tell you Chicago is BS ing you here. But believe what you will… |
Anonymous
ED is that thick? |
Anonymous
Well Chicago sort of invented the ED game. Makes sense considering how nmany game theorists they have. |
Anonymous
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Thank you, OP. Unfortunately, your mistake was thinking that presenting actual numbers would end the argument, when in reality it just opened up another thread for people to crap on Chi.
So much time spent here arguing about the admissions process vs a discussion re: caliber of education. |
Anonymous
The numbers Chicago gave are mathematically impossible. |
Anonymous
| From our school the Chicago admits were overall stronger students than the HYP kids, most of whom had either non-academic hooks or curated resumes. |
Anonymous
Rightly or wrongly, such is holistic admissions and a big part of selectivity. In terms of selectivity, Chicago is the easiest admit in the top 20, and several 20-something schools (Emory, Georgetown, USC) are tougher admits than Chicago if applying to Chicago ED. |
Anonymous
They cut their deficit in half this year btw so likely will be out of it soon. |
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The rank of very few kids from fcps or similar schools which don’t rank can be known.
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Chicago is not going to lose this reputation until they stop taking private school kids who are not top students.
Period. Anyone with connection to a top private school views Chicago as the ED2 choice for kids who didn't get into their Ivy SCEA or ED1 OR the school where kids who aren't near the top of the class but want prestige go. Until Chicago changes this practice (and they're the only top15 school that does it) these posts will persist. |