Ending you Chicago haters once and for all

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Anonymous wrote:I went to U of C many years ago and find these DCUM discussions so bizarre and untethered from reality.

It's a good school. To learn. End of story.

Me too!! Also went there and do not understand these people at all.

If you actually went there, how can you defend what Chicago has become? The end of the old intellectual Chicago, double the enrollment, 30% of students majoring in econ, the debt, the 3 rounds of ED and one round of EA, the lack of transparency, and the “it” school for prestige-consumed students who know they can’t get into another top 20 so they ED to Chicago (as did 80% of its enrolled class each year).

I did actually go there. It is still a good school thats helped launch my career...also I guess I have better things than to go around hating colleges? A lot of colleges wouldn't be right for my kids (chicago is not one of them of course) but I guess I don't see a need to hate on those schools

How is it “hating on” a school when it is being criticized for being one of the only universities in the country not to disclose its early admission numbers? Chicago has decided being “hated on” is better than transparency. This is a conscious decision.

If you don’t like it, use your considerable influence as an alumn to make the school stop with its antics. Alumni here are giving their school too much of a pass: do something about it.

Unless you want to argue that Chicago’s lack of transparency is defensible?

Serious question: No horse in this race. Why do you care so, so much? If you don't think it's a good school, don't send your child.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I went to U of C many years ago and find these DCUM discussions so bizarre and untethered from reality.

It's a good school. To learn. End of story.

Me too!! Also went there and do not understand these people at all.

If you actually went there, how can you defend what Chicago has become? The end of the old intellectual Chicago, double the enrollment, 30% of students majoring in econ, the debt, the 3 rounds of ED and one round of EA, the lack of transparency, and the “it” school for prestige-consumed students who know they can’t get into another top 20 so they ED to Chicago (as did 80% of its enrolled class each year).

I did actually go there. It is still a good school thats helped launch my career...also I guess I have better things than to go around hating colleges? A lot of colleges wouldn't be right for my kids (chicago is not one of them of course) but I guess I don't see a need to hate on those schools

How is it “hating on” a school when it is being criticized for being one of the only universities in the country not to disclose its early admission numbers? Chicago has decided being “hated on” is better than transparency. This is a conscious decision.

If you don’t like it, use your considerable influence as an alumn to make the school stop with its antics. Alumni here are giving their school too much of a pass: do something about it.

Unless you want to argue that Chicago’s lack of transparency is defensible?

Serious question: No horse in this race. Why do you care so, so much? If you don't think it's a good school, don't send your child.

There are numerous posters who think Chicago’s hijinks are beyond the pale: you must be new to this site.

I think it is a great grad school (with the caveat that many niche programs are being cut) and a legitimate top 25 undergraduate school. Never said anything to the contrary. I am not sure anyone has.

But beyond your obvious straw man, if you really have no horse in this race 1) don’t write and 2) your meta-opinion - nothing substantive - matters even less.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I went to U of C many years ago and find these DCUM discussions so bizarre and untethered from reality.

It's a good school. To learn. End of story.

Me too!! Also went there and do not understand these people at all.

If you actually went there, how can you defend what Chicago has become? The end of the old intellectual Chicago, double the enrollment, 30% of students majoring in econ, the debt, the 3 rounds of ED and one round of EA, the lack of transparency, and the “it” school for prestige-consumed students who know they can’t get into another top 20 so they ED to Chicago (as did 80% of its enrolled class each year).

I did actually go there. It is still a good school thats helped launch my career...also I guess I have better things than to go around hating colleges? A lot of colleges wouldn't be right for my kids (chicago is not one of them of course) but I guess I don't see a need to hate on those schools

How is it “hating on” a school when it is being criticized for being one of the only universities in the country not to disclose its early admission numbers? Chicago has decided being “hated on” is better than transparency. This is a conscious decision.

If you don’t like it, use your considerable influence as an alumn to make the school stop with its antics. Alumni here are giving their school too much of a pass: do something about it.

Unless you want to argue that Chicago’s lack of transparency is defensible?

Serious question: No horse in this race. Why do you care so, so much? If you don't think it's a good school, don't send your child.

There are numerous posters who think Chicago’s hijinks are beyond the pale: you must be new to this site.

I think it is a great grad school (with the caveat that many niche programs are being cut) and a legitimate top 25 undergraduate school. Never said anything to the contrary. I am not sure anyone has.

But beyond your obvious straw man, if you really have no horse in this race 1) don’t write and 2) your meta-opinion - nothing substantive - matters even less.

DP but to the other poster’s question, why are you so obsessed with this school? Have you talked about it with your therapist?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I went to U of C many years ago and find these DCUM discussions so bizarre and untethered from reality.

It's a good school. To learn. End of story.

Me too!! Also went there and do not understand these people at all.

If you actually went there, how can you defend what Chicago has become? The end of the old intellectual Chicago, double the enrollment, 30% of students majoring in econ, the debt, the 3 rounds of ED and one round of EA, the lack of transparency, and the “it” school for prestige-consumed students who know they can’t get into another top 20 so they ED to Chicago (as did 80% of its enrolled class each year).

I did actually go there. It is still a good school thats helped launch my career...also I guess I have better things than to go around hating colleges? A lot of colleges wouldn't be right for my kids (chicago is not one of them of course) but I guess I don't see a need to hate on those schools

How is it “hating on” a school when it is being criticized for being one of the only universities in the country not to disclose its early admission numbers? Chicago has decided being “hated on” is better than transparency. This is a conscious decision.

If you don’t like it, use your considerable influence as an alumn to make the school stop with its antics. Alumni here are giving their school too much of a pass: do something about it.

Unless you want to argue that Chicago’s lack of transparency is defensible?

Serious question: No horse in this race. Why do you care so, so much? If you don't think it's a good school, don't send your child.

There are numerous posters who think Chicago’s hijinks are beyond the pale: you must be new to this site.

I think it is a great grad school (with the caveat that many niche programs are being cut) and a legitimate top 25 undergraduate school. Never said anything to the contrary. I am not sure anyone has.

But beyond your obvious straw man, if you really have no horse in this race 1) don’t write and 2) your meta-opinion - nothing substantive - matters even less.

Yes! Because it mismanaged itself into being $6 billion in the hole!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I went to U of C many years ago and find these DCUM discussions so bizarre and untethered from reality.

It's a good school. To learn. End of story.

Me too!! Also went there and do not understand these people at all.

If you actually went there, how can you defend what Chicago has become? The end of the old intellectual Chicago, double the enrollment, 30% of students majoring in econ, the debt, the 3 rounds of ED and one round of EA, the lack of transparency, and the “it” school for prestige-consumed students who know they can’t get into another top 20 so they ED to Chicago (as did 80% of its enrolled class each year).

I did actually go there. It is still a good school thats helped launch my career...also I guess I have better things than to go around hating colleges? A lot of colleges wouldn't be right for my kids (chicago is not one of them of course) but I guess I don't see a need to hate on those schools

How is it “hating on” a school when it is being criticized for being one of the only universities in the country not to disclose its early admission numbers? Chicago has decided being “hated on” is better than transparency. This is a conscious decision.

If you don’t like it, use your considerable influence as an alumn to make the school stop with its antics. Alumni here are giving their school too much of a pass: do something about it.

Unless you want to argue that Chicago’s lack of transparency is defensible?

Serious question: No horse in this race. Why do you care so, so much? If you don't think it's a good school, don't send your child.

There are numerous posters who think Chicago’s hijinks are beyond the pale: you must be new to this site.

I think it is a great grad school (with the caveat that many niche programs are being cut) and a legitimate top 25 undergraduate school. Never said anything to the contrary. I am not sure anyone has.

But beyond your obvious straw man, if you really have no horse in this race 1) don’t write and 2) your meta-opinion - nothing substantive - matters even less.

Yes! Because it mismanaged itself into being $6 billion in the hole!

Please consider therapy for your obsession. It’s really not healthy or productive.

[Anonymous]

So many unwell posters on this thread.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The issue is combining EA and ED doesn't end up telling you much...it's possible that they accepted 80% of ED and 2% of EA and the weighted average was 18%. The criticism (fair or not) is that Chicago's ED rate is really high and that rate is unknowable from this information.

It's a totally fair criticism. But that one angry poster sounds sick and sad.

Agree. I am actually a UC fan and am floored by the kids I know that have gone there. I have zero dogs in this hunt...my point is only that this data is not at all helpful for determining their ED rates, for people who care about that (not me).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The issue is combining EA and ED doesn't end up telling you much...it's possible that they accepted 80% of ED and 2% of EA and the weighted average was 18%. The criticism (fair or not) is that Chicago's ED rate is really high and that rate is unknowable from this information.

It's a totally fair criticism. But that one angry poster sounds sick and sad.

Agree. I am actually a UC fan and am floored by the kids I know that have gone there. I have zero dogs in this hunt...my point is only that this data is not at all helpful for determining their ED rates, for people who care about that (not me).

Sure, they're smart and engaging but they suck at football and very few of them have published major research studies in overeseas periodicals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I went to U of C many years ago and find these DCUM discussions so bizarre and untethered from reality.

It's a good school. To learn. End of story.

Me too!! Also went there and do not understand these people at all.

If you actually went there, how can you defend what Chicago has become? The end of the old intellectual Chicago, double the enrollment, 30% of students majoring in econ, the debt, the 3 rounds of ED and one round of EA, the lack of transparency, and the “it” school for prestige-consumed students who know they can’t get into another top 20 so they ED to Chicago (as did 80% of its enrolled class each year).

I did actually go there. It is still a good school thats helped launch my career...also I guess I have better things than to go around hating colleges? A lot of colleges wouldn't be right for my kids (chicago is not one of them of course) but I guess I don't see a need to hate on those schools

How is it “hating on” a school when it is being criticized for being one of the only universities in the country not to disclose its early admission numbers? Chicago has decided being “hated on” is better than transparency. This is a conscious decision.

If you don’t like it, use your considerable influence as an alumn to make the school stop with its antics. Alumni here are giving their school too much of a pass: do something about it.

Unless you want to argue that Chicago’s lack of transparency is defensible?

Serious question: No horse in this race. Why do you care so, so much? If you don't think it's a good school, don't send your child.

This!! I do not understand such strong hate of a school?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I went to U of C many years ago and find these DCUM discussions so bizarre and untethered from reality.

It's a good school. To learn. End of story.

Me too!! Also went there and do not understand these people at all.

If you actually went there, how can you defend what Chicago has become? The end of the old intellectual Chicago, double the enrollment, 30% of students majoring in econ, the debt, the 3 rounds of ED and one round of EA, the lack of transparency, and the “it” school for prestige-consumed students who know they can’t get into another top 20 so they ED to Chicago (as did 80% of its enrolled class each year).

I did actually go there. It is still a good school thats helped launch my career...also I guess I have better things than to go around hating colleges? A lot of colleges wouldn't be right for my kids (chicago is not one of them of course) but I guess I don't see a need to hate on those schools

How is it “hating on” a school when it is being criticized for being one of the only universities in the country not to disclose its early admission numbers? Chicago has decided being “hated on” is better than transparency. This is a conscious decision.

If you don’t like it, use your considerable influence as an alumn to make the school stop with its antics. Alumni here are giving their school too much of a pass: do something about it.

Unless you want to argue that Chicago’s lack of transparency is defensible?

I don’t care what they do with their admission data- I am really grateful for what the school gave me. A world class education. I was a Pell Grant recipient and UChicago paid for most of the tuition. I seriously walked away with not only amazing education but only 10k in debt. I would be happy to send my kid there (if they get in!!).

[Anonymous]

My kids go to UChicago. It is an amazing education, with very difficult quarter system and deflation of grades, so you really need to try hard. An "A" at Chicago is a notable achievement, because not trying your hardest will routinely get you a C,D or F. I am so grateful my kids are coming out of UChicago confident they can excel because they survived the professors who pushed them relentlessly. I don't understand all the sniping here- why there is a whole cohort of people who need to put the school down. I went to HYP and I see how special Chicago is, and how fortunate my kids are to attend. I don't think it has as good a pipeline into top paying jobs as Harvard, but it has a great pipeline into academia and research.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kids go to UChicago. It is an amazing education, with very difficult quarter system and deflation of grades, so you really need to try hard. An "A" at Chicago is a notable achievement, because not trying your hardest will routinely get you a C,D or F. I am so grateful my kids are coming out of UChicago confident they can excel because they survived the professors who pushed them relentlessly. I don't understand all the sniping here- why there is a whole cohort of people who need to put the school down. I went to HYP and I see how special Chicago is, and how fortunate my kids are to attend. I don't think it has as good a pipeline into top paying jobs as Harvard, but it has a great pipeline into academia and research.

Thank you, exactly. This is where you go if you want your kid educated. Worth the money for an education of a lifetime.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kids go to UChicago. It is an amazing education, with very difficult quarter system and deflation of grades, so you really need to try hard. An "A" at Chicago is a notable achievement, because not trying your hardest will routinely get you a C,D or F. I am so grateful my kids are coming out of UChicago confident they can excel because they survived the professors who pushed them relentlessly. I don't understand all the sniping here- why there is a whole cohort of people who need to put the school down. I went to HYP and I see how special Chicago is, and how fortunate my kids are to attend. I don't think it has as good a pipeline into top paying jobs as Harvard, but it has a great pipeline into academia and research.

I’ll say: nothing like an ED2 admit for the HYP legacy reject. Without such a “special” school, where would your kids be?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kids go to UChicago. It is an amazing education, with very difficult quarter system and deflation of grades, so you really need to try hard. An "A" at Chicago is a notable achievement, because not trying your hardest will routinely get you a C,D or F. I am so grateful my kids are coming out of UChicago confident they can excel because they survived the professors who pushed them relentlessly. I don't understand all the sniping here- why there is a whole cohort of people who need to put the school down. I went to HYP and I see how special Chicago is, and how fortunate my kids are to attend. I don't think it has as good a pipeline into top paying jobs as Harvard, but it has a great pipeline into academia and research.

Poor mental and emotional health, mostly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I went to U of C many years ago and find these DCUM discussions so bizarre and untethered from reality.

It's a good school. To learn. End of story.

Me too!! Also went there and do not understand these people at all.

If you actually went there, how can you defend what Chicago has become? The end of the old intellectual Chicago, double the enrollment, 30% of students majoring in econ, the debt, the 3 rounds of ED and one round of EA, the lack of transparency, and the “it” school for prestige-consumed students who know they can’t get into another top 20 so they ED to Chicago (as did 80% of its enrolled class each year).

I did actually go there. It is still a good school thats helped launch my career...also I guess I have better things than to go around hating colleges? A lot of colleges wouldn't be right for my kids (chicago is not one of them of course) but I guess I don't see a need to hate on those schools

How is it “hating on” a school when it is being criticized for being one of the only universities in the country not to disclose its early admission numbers? Chicago has decided being “hated on” is better than transparency. This is a conscious decision.

If you don’t like it, use your considerable influence as an alumn to make the school stop with its antics. Alumni here are giving their school too much of a pass: do something about it.

Unless you want to argue that Chicago’s lack of transparency is defensible?

Serious question: No horse in this race. Why do you care so, so much? If you don't think it's a good school, don't send your child.

There are numerous posters who think Chicago’s hijinks are beyond the pale: you must be new to this site.

I think it is a great grad school (with the caveat that many niche programs are being cut) and a legitimate top 25 undergraduate school. Never said anything to the contrary. I am not sure anyone has.

But beyond your obvious straw man, if you really have no horse in this race 1) don’t write and 2) your meta-opinion - nothing substantive - matters even less.

Yes! Because it mismanaged itself into being $6 billion in the hole!

Please consider therapy for your obsession. It’s really not healthy or productive.

DO. For catastrophically overspending on experts and programs designed to push up the school’s yield percentage and to push it up the USNWR rankings? It’s all college counselors and those reading the Chronicle of Higher Education talk about! Start educating yourself on issues before making ignorant remarks here.