Ending you Chicago haters once and for all

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Anonymous wrote:I went to U of C many years ago and find these DCUM discussions so bizarre and untethered from reality.

It's a good school. To learn. End of story.

Me too!! Also went there and do not understand these people at all.

If you actually went there, how can you defend what Chicago has become? The end of the old intellectual Chicago, double the enrollment, 30% of students majoring in econ, the debt, the 3 rounds of ED and one round of EA, the lack of transparency, and the “it” school for prestige-consumed students who know they can’t get into another top 20 so they ED to Chicago (as did 80% of its enrolled class each year).

I did actually go there. It is still a good school thats helped launch my career...also I guess I have better things than to go around hating colleges? A lot of colleges wouldn't be right for my kids (chicago is not one of them of course) but I guess I don't see a need to hate on those schools

How is it “hating on” a school when it is being criticized for being one of the only universities in the country not to disclose its early admission numbers? Chicago has decided being “hated on” is better than transparency. This is a conscious decision.

If you don’t like it, use your considerable influence as an alumn to make the school stop with its antics. Alumni here are giving their school too much of a pass: do something about it.

Unless you want to argue that Chicago’s lack of transparency is defensible?

I don’t care what they do with their admission data- I am really grateful for what the school gave me. A world class education. I was a Pell Grant recipient and UChicago paid for most of the tuition. I seriously walked away with not only amazing education but only 10k in debt. I would be happy to send my kid there (if they get in!!).

I don’t get this. The missing admissions data is hiding that 80% of the class comes from ED rounds. You do realize that ED is disproportionately full pay? If you want to pay it forward and have Chicago help kids like you, that ED percentage has to go down.

Maybe UChicago education would have given you some critical thinking skills. If you look at the data, UChicago gives as much financial aid as Duke. Just because ED is prevalent doesn’t mean that all ED admits are full pay.

Financial aid percentage: https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/?q=University+of+chicago&s=all&id=144050#finaid
Duke 58%
Chicago 51%
Northwestern 62%
Johns Hopkins 66%
Your critical thinking 0%

that data is for 2022-23; i am sure it fluctuates over time...

That data is current. The Chicago “latest” CDS is only an estimate, and is only 33% for first year students. You don’t want to go there…

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Anonymous wrote:I went to U of C many years ago and find these DCUM discussions so bizarre and untethered from reality.

It's a good school. To learn. End of story.

Me too!! Also went there and do not understand these people at all.

If you actually went there, how can you defend what Chicago has become? The end of the old intellectual Chicago, double the enrollment, 30% of students majoring in econ, the debt, the 3 rounds of ED and one round of EA, the lack of transparency, and the “it” school for prestige-consumed students who know they can’t get into another top 20 so they ED to Chicago (as did 80% of its enrolled class each year).

I did actually go there. It is still a good school thats helped launch my career...also I guess I have better things than to go around hating colleges? A lot of colleges wouldn't be right for my kids (chicago is not one of them of course) but I guess I don't see a need to hate on those schools

How is it “hating on” a school when it is being criticized for being one of the only universities in the country not to disclose its early admission numbers? Chicago has decided being “hated on” is better than transparency. This is a conscious decision.

If you don’t like it, use your considerable influence as an alumn to make the school stop with its antics. Alumni here are giving their school too much of a pass: do something about it.

Unless you want to argue that Chicago’s lack of transparency is defensible?

I don’t care what they do with their admission data- I am really grateful for what the school gave me. A world class education. I was a Pell Grant recipient and UChicago paid for most of the tuition. I seriously walked away with not only amazing education but only 10k in debt. I would be happy to send my kid there (if they get in!!).

I don’t get this. The missing admissions data is hiding that 80% of the class comes from ED rounds. You do realize that ED is disproportionately full pay? If you want to pay it forward and have Chicago help kids like you, that ED percentage has to go down.

Maybe UChicago education would have given you some critical thinking skills. If you look at the data, UChicago gives as much financial aid as Duke. Just because ED is prevalent doesn’t mean that all ED admits are full pay.

Financial aid percentage: https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/?q=University+of+chicago&s=all&id=144050#finaid
Duke 58%
Chicago 51%
Northwestern 62%
Johns Hopkins 66%
Your critical thinking 0%

also the average amount seems like it was higher. So maybe they offered less kids aid but it was a higher amount? https://www.collegetuitioncompare.com/trends/university-of-chicago/financial-aid/

Or maybe this is part of Chicago’s “take 80% of class ED” strategy?

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Anonymous wrote:I went to U of C many years ago and find these DCUM discussions so bizarre and untethered from reality.

It's a good school. To learn. End of story.

Me too!! Also went there and do not understand these people at all.

If you actually went there, how can you defend what Chicago has become? The end of the old intellectual Chicago, double the enrollment, 30% of students majoring in econ, the debt, the 3 rounds of ED and one round of EA, the lack of transparency, and the “it” school for prestige-consumed students who know they can’t get into another top 20 so they ED to Chicago (as did 80% of its enrolled class each year).

I did actually go there. It is still a good school thats helped launch my career...also I guess I have better things than to go around hating colleges? A lot of colleges wouldn't be right for my kids (chicago is not one of them of course) but I guess I don't see a need to hate on those schools

How is it “hating on” a school when it is being criticized for being one of the only universities in the country not to disclose its early admission numbers? Chicago has decided being “hated on” is better than transparency. This is a conscious decision.

If you don’t like it, use your considerable influence as an alumn to make the school stop with its antics. Alumni here are giving their school too much of a pass: do something about it.

Unless you want to argue that Chicago’s lack of transparency is defensible?

I don’t care what they do with their admission data- I am really grateful for what the school gave me. A world class education. I was a Pell Grant recipient and UChicago paid for most of the tuition. I seriously walked away with not only amazing education but only 10k in debt. I would be happy to send my kid there (if they get in!!).

I don’t get this. The missing admissions data is hiding that 80% of the class comes from ED rounds. You do realize that ED is disproportionately full pay? If you want to pay it forward and have Chicago help kids like you, that ED percentage has to go down.

Maybe UChicago education would have given you some critical thinking skills. If you look at the data, UChicago gives as much financial aid as Duke. Just because ED is prevalent doesn’t mean that all ED admits are full pay.

Financial aid percentage: https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/?q=University+of+chicago&s=all&id=144050#finaid
Duke 58%
Chicago 51%
Northwestern 62%
Johns Hopkins 66%
Your critical thinking 0%

Take a look at the CSD from 2024-25 for UChicago and Duke. And take back your insults.

Provide the cite for all four schools above and maybe we can talk. I make a policy not to engage with people who have already been proven to be wrong unless the provide the cite to back up their latest claim.

I accept your apology for your ignorance.

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Anonymous wrote:I went to U of C many years ago and find these DCUM discussions so bizarre and untethered from reality.

It's a good school. To learn. End of story.

Me too!! Also went there and do not understand these people at all.

If you actually went there, how can you defend what Chicago has become? The end of the old intellectual Chicago, double the enrollment, 30% of students majoring in econ, the debt, the 3 rounds of ED and one round of EA, the lack of transparency, and the “it” school for prestige-consumed students who know they can’t get into another top 20 so they ED to Chicago (as did 80% of its enrolled class each year).

I did actually go there. It is still a good school thats helped launch my career...also I guess I have better things than to go around hating colleges? A lot of colleges wouldn't be right for my kids (chicago is not one of them of course) but I guess I don't see a need to hate on those schools

How is it “hating on” a school when it is being criticized for being one of the only universities in the country not to disclose its early admission numbers? Chicago has decided being “hated on” is better than transparency. This is a conscious decision.

If you don’t like it, use your considerable influence as an alumn to make the school stop with its antics. Alumni here are giving their school too much of a pass: do something about it.

Unless you want to argue that Chicago’s lack of transparency is defensible?

I don’t care what they do with their admission data- I am really grateful for what the school gave me. A world class education. I was a Pell Grant recipient and UChicago paid for most of the tuition. I seriously walked away with not only amazing education but only 10k in debt. I would be happy to send my kid there (if they get in!!).

I don’t get this. The missing admissions data is hiding that 80% of the class comes from ED rounds. You do realize that ED is disproportionately full pay? If you want to pay it forward and have Chicago help kids like you, that ED percentage has to go down.

Maybe UChicago education would have given you some critical thinking skills. If you look at the data, UChicago gives as much financial aid as Duke. Just because ED is prevalent doesn’t mean that all ED admits are full pay.

Financial aid percentage: https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/?q=University+of+chicago&s=all&id=144050#finaid
Duke 58%
Chicago 51%
Northwestern 62%
Johns Hopkins 66%
Your critical thinking 0%

that data is for 2022-23; i am sure it fluctuates over time...

Yes, at need blind schools the pool of aid given out each year can vary by millions. Family member is a director of financial aid at a need blind school and he talks about this.

Go ask your friend, “If 80% of class is taken ED — as opposed to 45% — how would that impact the variance?” I think we all know the answer.

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Anonymous wrote:I went to U of C many years ago and find these DCUM discussions so bizarre and untethered from reality.

It's a good school. To learn. End of story.

Me too!! Also went there and do not understand these people at all.

If you actually went there, how can you defend what Chicago has become? The end of the old intellectual Chicago, double the enrollment, 30% of students majoring in econ, the debt, the 3 rounds of ED and one round of EA, the lack of transparency, and the “it” school for prestige-consumed students who know they can’t get into another top 20 so they ED to Chicago (as did 80% of its enrolled class each year).

I did actually go there. It is still a good school thats helped launch my career...also I guess I have better things than to go around hating colleges? A lot of colleges wouldn't be right for my kids (chicago is not one of them of course) but I guess I don't see a need to hate on those schools

How is it “hating on” a school when it is being criticized for being one of the only universities in the country not to disclose its early admission numbers? Chicago has decided being “hated on” is better than transparency. This is a conscious decision.

If you don’t like it, use your considerable influence as an alumn to make the school stop with its antics. Alumni here are giving their school too much of a pass: do something about it.

Unless you want to argue that Chicago’s lack of transparency is defensible?

I don’t care what they do with their admission data- I am really grateful for what the school gave me. A world class education. I was a Pell Grant recipient and UChicago paid for most of the tuition. I seriously walked away with not only amazing education but only 10k in debt. I would be happy to send my kid there (if they get in!!).

I don’t get this. The missing admissions data is hiding that 80% of the class comes from ED rounds. You do realize that ED is disproportionately full pay? If you want to pay it forward and have Chicago help kids like you, that ED percentage has to go down.

Maybe UChicago education would have given you some critical thinking skills. If you look at the data, UChicago gives as much financial aid as Duke. Just because ED is prevalent doesn’t mean that all ED admits are full pay.

Financial aid percentage: https://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/?q=University+of+chicago&s=all&id=144050#finaid
Duke 58%
Chicago 51%
Northwestern 62%
Johns Hopkins 66%
Your critical thinking 0%

that data is for 2022-23; i am sure it fluctuates over time...

That data is current. The Chicago “latest” CDS is only an estimate, and is only 33% for first year students. You don’t want to go there…

Wait.

I thought that this post was supposed to end Chicago haters once and for all.

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Anonymous wrote:All of this chatter about what percent they are admitting, and when, and nobody is talking about departmental strengths and weaknesses over time, or any other material factors affecting the quality of undergraduate education. You don't have a clue about how to evaluate institutions; I hope your kids don't pay the price.

If these people ever had a thought about the actual education or experience, it would die of loneliness.

They stick to what they are most comfortable with which is presenting themselves as the most vacuous college commentators on the internet.

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Anonymous wrote:All of this chatter about what percent they are admitting, and when, and nobody is talking about departmental strengths and weaknesses over time, or any other material factors affecting the quality of undergraduate education. You don't have a clue about how to evaluate institutions; I hope your kids don't pay the price.

If these people ever had a thought about the actual education or experience, it would die of loneliness.

They stick to what they are most comfortable with which is presenting themselves as the most vacuous college commentators on the internet.

Many people here have pointed out that Chicago had to admit it was $6 billion in the hole in 2025. It’s been slashing those departments, programs and letting PhD students go ever since. Google it. My U of Chicago friends are livid their once fine institution has come to this. They are livid over the extreme marketing to
Improve yield. They are livid with EO, ED1 and ED2.