Long may the shutdown continue

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have multiple flights booked in the next few weeks and I am more than happy to sit in airports or have them cancelled if it means some curtailing of this psychotic government’s power. I am so sick of the devaluing of the American presidency with wild bs. I honestly wouldn’t care if it shut down until the midterms and I don’t think I’m alone.

That’s fine. But just understand that you’re willing to miss your flight because Senator Schumer is trying to avoid a primary.

Or that Mike Johnson doesn't want to bring the House back because he would have to swear in a certain member that was elected almost 2 months ago. We can do this all day.

+100

Basically, we are at the mercy of old white men.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Grandpa Trump is too busy falling asleep in the Oval Office to worry about ending the shutdown. Man needs his beauty rest.

The beauty rest isn't working.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have multiple flights booked in the next few weeks and I am more than happy to sit in airports or have them cancelled if it means some curtailing of this psychotic government’s power. I am so sick of the devaluing of the American presidency with wild bs. I honestly wouldn’t care if it shut down until the midterms and I don’t think I’m alone.

That’s fine. But just understand that you’re willing to miss your flight because Senator Schumer is trying to avoid a primary.

Or that Mike Johnson doesn't want to bring the House back because he would have to swear in a certain member that was elected almost 2 months ago. We can do this all day.

No we can’t do this all day. Because the Speaker said about a thousand times the House will be brought back into session 48 hours after the Senate passes the clean CR.

That would require the House pass a clean CR. What they passed that is sitting at the senate is not a clean CR. Add to it that teh CR was supposed to be a bridge to passing a full budget bill. That bill should have been ready now for debate and passage, but since the House hasn't been in session, the bill is not ready. That is not the Dems fault.

If it's not a clean CR then you'll need to explain what's new in it. Because that's what everyone is reporting, not just Fox.

My advice to the Dems would be to come out with a public statement saying they have decided to vote for the House CR because they don't want to see Americans suffer due to reduced SNAP benefits. However, if extension of the ACA subsidies aren't in the next House bill, they will not support it, same as this time. Give them warning to pull the snap payments forward and replenish the contingency funds.

It makes the Repubs look like heels and preserves their negotiating leverage, while giving Americans a break and the Trump admin some rope to hang themselves.

oh yeah sure, that will work
for sure

All these Republicans working in good faith. This time, Charlie Brown, this time it will work! Because it has to.

gettin right on that

It doesn't have to work. The CR that passes will only be good until Nov 21.

Dems will have their leverage back, plus any missing snap benefits in the Nov 21 shutdown will be 100% Trump admin's lack of planning. Then ask why Trump couldn't plan for it like any competent admin would do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:None a single billionaire is even offering to pony up money for the people of the country that pads their wallets. Is Musk going to try to feed the people in his new home state of Texas? Of course not. But he happily bought an election.

Is Zuckerberg so corrupted by his wealth and power at this point that he is immune to what his pediatrician/philanthropist wife thinks--or is she just as corrupt?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have multiple flights booked in the next few weeks and I am more than happy to sit in airports or have them cancelled if it means some curtailing of this psychotic government’s power. I am so sick of the devaluing of the American presidency with wild bs. I honestly wouldn’t care if it shut down until the midterms and I don’t think I’m alone.

That’s fine. But just understand that you’re willing to miss your flight because Senator Schumer is trying to avoid a primary.

Or that Mike Johnson doesn't want to bring the House back because he would have to swear in a certain member that was elected almost 2 months ago. We can do this all day.

No we can’t do this all day. Because the Speaker said about a thousand times the House will be brought back into session 48 hours after the Senate passes the clean CR.

That would require the House pass a clean CR. What they passed that is sitting at the senate is not a clean CR. Add to it that teh CR was supposed to be a bridge to passing a full budget bill. That bill should have been ready now for debate and passage, but since the House hasn't been in session, the bill is not ready. That is not the Dems fault.

If it's not a clean CR then you'll need to explain what's new in it. Because that's what everyone is reporting, not just Fox.

My advice to the Dems would be to come out with a public statement saying they have decided to vote for the House CR because they don't want to see Americans suffer due to reduced SNAP benefits. However, if extension of the ACA subsidies aren't in the next House bill, they will not support it, same as this time. Give them warning to pull the snap payments forward and replenish the contingency funds.

It makes the Repubs look like heels and preserves their negotiating leverage, while giving Americans a break and the Trump admin some rope to hang themselves.

A CR has already been passed once, months ago. And the Republicans have failed to cone up with a budget bill. Instead, all they've done is cram through the BUB, which undermines the previous budget such that the CR is no longer 'clean.'

Plus ACA renewals are *now*. It doesn't work to just wait and revisit the idea in a couple of months. By then, tons of Americans won't have health care, and the program will be damaged by the precipitous change.

And you can't trust the Republicans to follow through on anything.

Funny how the Republicans made a huge priority of making temporary tax cuts for the wealthy permanent, but they find a one year extensions of ACA subsidies to be completely objectionable.

It's only until Nov 21, then the CR itself expires and we start over with a new shutdown. The Dems will be in a better position because they have shown compassion where the Repubs have none. And the burden will be on the Trump admin to plan for a shutdown they know is coming.

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Anonymous wrote:I have multiple flights booked in the next few weeks and I am more than happy to sit in airports or have them cancelled if it means some curtailing of this psychotic government’s power. I am so sick of the devaluing of the American presidency with wild bs. I honestly wouldn’t care if it shut down until the midterms and I don’t think I’m alone.

That’s fine. But just understand that you’re willing to miss your flight because Senator Schumer is trying to avoid a primary.

Or that Mike Johnson doesn't want to bring the House back because he would have to swear in a certain member that was elected almost 2 months ago. We can do this all day.

No we can’t do this all day. Because the Speaker said about a thousand times the House will be brought back into session 48 hours after the Senate passes the clean CR.

That would require the House pass a clean CR. What they passed that is sitting at the senate is not a clean CR. Add to it that teh CR was supposed to be a bridge to passing a full budget bill. That bill should have been ready now for debate and passage, but since the House hasn't been in session, the bill is not ready. That is not the Dems fault.

If it's not a clean CR then you'll need to explain what's new in it. Because that's what everyone is reporting, not just Fox.

My advice to the Dems would be to come out with a public statement saying they have decided to vote for the House CR because they don't want to see Americans suffer due to reduced SNAP benefits. However, if extension of the ACA subsidies aren't in the next House bill, they will not support it, same as this time. Give them warning to pull the snap payments forward and replenish the contingency funds.

It makes the Repubs look like heels and preserves their negotiating leverage, while giving Americans a break and the Trump admin some rope to hang themselves.

oh yeah sure, that will work
for sure

All these Republicans working in good faith. This time, Charlie Brown, this time it will work! Because it has to.

gettin right on that

It doesn't have to work. The CR that passes will only be good until Nov 21.

Dems will have their leverage back, plus any missing snap benefits in the Nov 21 shutdown will be 100% Trump admin's lack of planning. Then ask why Trump couldn't plan for it like any competent admin would do.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have multiple flights booked in the next few weeks and I am more than happy to sit in airports or have them cancelled if it means some curtailing of this psychotic government’s power. I am so sick of the devaluing of the American presidency with wild bs. I honestly wouldn’t care if it shut down until the midterms and I don’t think I’m alone.

That’s fine. But just understand that you’re willing to miss your flight because Senator Schumer is trying to avoid a primary.

Or that Mike Johnson doesn't want to bring the House back because he would have to swear in a certain member that was elected almost 2 months ago. We can do this all day.

No we can’t do this all day. Because the Speaker said about a thousand times the House will be brought back into session 48 hours after the Senate passes the clean CR.

That would require the House pass a clean CR. What they passed that is sitting at the senate is not a clean CR. Add to it that teh CR was supposed to be a bridge to passing a full budget bill. That bill should have been ready now for debate and passage, but since the House hasn't been in session, the bill is not ready. That is not the Dems fault.

If it's not a clean CR then you'll need to explain what's new in it. Because that's what everyone is reporting, not just Fox.

My advice to the Dems would be to come out with a public statement saying they have decided to vote for the House CR because they don't want to see Americans suffer due to reduced SNAP benefits. However, if extension of the ACA subsidies aren't in the next House bill, they will not support it, same as this time. Give them warning to pull the snap payments forward and replenish the contingency funds.

It makes the Repubs look like heels and preserves their negotiating leverage, while giving Americans a break and the Trump admin some rope to hang themselves.

oh yeah sure, that will work
for sure

All these Republicans working in good faith. This time, Charlie Brown, this time it will work! Because it has to.

gettin right on that

It doesn't have to work. The CR that passes will only be good until Nov 21.

Dems will have their leverage back, plus any missing snap benefits in the Nov 21 shutdown will be 100% Trump admin's lack of planning. Then ask why Trump couldn't plan for it like any competent admin would do.

This isn't a Charlie Brown situation. This is a classic Judgement of Solomon situation. The Dems need to be the mother who refuses to split the baby in half.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We all want the shutdown to continue.

+1, I want it to go on for at least another three months

[Anonymous]

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You are sick. The holidays are coming up. People are flying to see their family, some of whose they only see a few times a year.

The democrats need to get their asses in gear and sign the clean cr, or be removed from office (forcibly, if need be). They are destroying the holidays for so many Americans.

Holiday destruction is nothing compared to what will happen if they do that.

Yes, America would be celebrating if the republicans had the guts to do the right thing and arrest senate democrats for treason and reopen the government.

What democrats are doing is treason, it’s disgusting, and we need to start seeing some actual consequences and accountability for these vile monsters who are actively preventing Americans from visiting their families over the holidays, simply due to their on-going war on Christianity.

Dems have balls.

[Anonymous]

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You are sick. The holidays are coming up. People are flying to see their family, some of whose they only see a few times a year.

The democrats need to get their asses in gear and sign the clean cr, or be removed from office (forcibly, if need be). They are destroying the holidays for so many Americans.

Holiday destruction is nothing compared to what will happen if they do that.

Yes, America would be celebrating if the republicans had the guts to do the right thing and arrest senate democrats for treason and reopen the government.

What democrats are doing is treason, it’s disgusting, and we need to start seeing some actual consequences and accountability for these vile monsters who are actively preventing Americans from visiting their families over the holidays, simply due to their on-going war on Christianity.

You're writing as if you think these things are facts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Grandpa Trump is too busy falling asleep in the Oval Office to worry about ending the shutdown. Man needs his beauty rest.

Man could sleep through the rest of his term and still be fugly af. Evil isn't pretty; he's rotten to the core.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have multiple flights booked in the next few weeks and I am more than happy to sit in airports or have them cancelled if it means some curtailing of this psychotic government’s power. I am so sick of the devaluing of the American presidency with wild bs. I honestly wouldn’t care if it shut down until the midterms and I don’t think I’m alone.

That’s fine. But just understand that you’re willing to miss your flight because Senator Schumer is trying to avoid a primary.

Or that Mike Johnson doesn't want to bring the House back because he would have to swear in a certain member that was elected almost 2 months ago. We can do this all day.

No we can’t do this all day. Because the Speaker said about a thousand times the House will be brought back into session 48 hours after the Senate passes the clean CR.

That would require the House pass a clean CR. What they passed that is sitting at the senate is not a clean CR. Add to it that teh CR was supposed to be a bridge to passing a full budget bill. That bill should have been ready now for debate and passage, but since the House hasn't been in session, the bill is not ready. That is not the Dems fault.

If it's not a clean CR then you'll need to explain what's new in it. Because that's what everyone is reporting, not just Fox.

My advice to the Dems would be to come out with a public statement saying they have decided to vote for the House CR because they don't want to see Americans suffer due to reduced SNAP benefits. However, if extension of the ACA subsidies aren't in the next House bill, they will not support it, same as this time. Give them warning to pull the snap payments forward and replenish the contingency funds.

It makes the Repubs look like heels and preserves their negotiating leverage, while giving Americans a break and the Trump admin some rope to hang themselves.

oh yeah sure, that will work
for sure

All these Republicans working in good faith. This time, Charlie Brown, this time it will work! Because it has to.

gettin right on that

It doesn't have to work. The CR that passes will only be good until Nov 21.

Dems will have their leverage back, plus any missing snap benefits in the Nov 21 shutdown will be 100% Trump admin's lack of planning. Then ask why Trump couldn't plan for it like any competent admin would do.

This isn't a Charlie Brown situation. This is a classic Judgement of Solomon situation. The Dems need to be the mother who refuses to split the baby in half.

Problem is that the time is now, and the leverage is now. No reason to put off until tomorrow, or two weeks, or whatever.

Right now, we can get money to hungry families (though NYT is covering that Trump is trying to claw back money off EBT cards). Right now, the military is being paid, as it is.

Who knows what fresh hell Trump will introduce in the next few weeks. You already know there are unidentified masked guys in unmarked vans pulling American citizens off the streets, right? Even former US military, without notifying their families, offering access to a lawyer, even feeding them?

Two weeks is a loooooooooooooooooong time to work up some good Insurrectionist Act manuevers.

Nope. The time is now. Americans expect something to change, and this is the only lever in hand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You are sick. The holidays are coming up. People are flying to see their family, some of whose they only see a few times a year.

The democrats need to get their asses in gear and sign the clean cr, or be removed from office (forcibly, if need be). They are destroying the holidays for so many Americans.

Holiday destruction is nothing compared to what will happen if they do that.

Yes, America would be celebrating if the republicans had the guts to do the right thing and arrest senate democrats for treason and reopen the government.

What democrats are doing is treason, it’s disgusting, and we need to start seeing some actual consequences and accountability for these vile monsters who are actively preventing Americans from visiting their families over the holidays, simply due to their on-going war on Christianity.

You're writing as if you think these things are facts.

Don't allow that troll to pollute the thread with his wall of words. Everytime you quote him in full you repeat his words for everyone to read again.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have multiple flights booked in the next few weeks and I am more than happy to sit in airports or have them cancelled if it means some curtailing of this psychotic government’s power. I am so sick of the devaluing of the American presidency with wild bs. I honestly wouldn’t care if it shut down until the midterms and I don’t think I’m alone.

That’s fine. But just understand that you’re willing to miss your flight because Senator Schumer is trying to avoid a primary.

Or that Mike Johnson doesn't want to bring the House back because he would have to swear in a certain member that was elected almost 2 months ago. We can do this all day.

No we can’t do this all day. Because the Speaker said about a thousand times the House will be brought back into session 48 hours after the Senate passes the clean CR.

That would require the House pass a clean CR. What they passed that is sitting at the senate is not a clean CR. Add to it that teh CR was supposed to be a bridge to passing a full budget bill. That bill should have been ready now for debate and passage, but since the House hasn't been in session, the bill is not ready. That is not the Dems fault.

If it's not a clean CR then you'll need to explain what's new in it. Because that's what everyone is reporting, not just Fox.

My advice to the Dems would be to come out with a public statement saying they have decided to vote for the House CR because they don't want to see Americans suffer due to reduced SNAP benefits. However, if extension of the ACA subsidies aren't in the next House bill, they will not support it, same as this time. Give them warning to pull the snap payments forward and replenish the contingency funds.

It makes the Repubs look like heels and preserves their negotiating leverage, while giving Americans a break and the Trump admin some rope to hang themselves.

oh yeah sure, that will work
for sure

All these Republicans working in good faith. This time, Charlie Brown, this time it will work! Because it has to.

gettin right on that

It doesn't have to work. The CR that passes will only be good until Nov 21.

Dems will have their leverage back, plus any missing snap benefits in the Nov 21 shutdown will be 100% Trump admin's lack of planning. Then ask why Trump couldn't plan for it like any competent admin would do.

This isn't a Charlie Brown situation. This is a classic Judgement of Solomon situation. The Dems need to be the mother who refuses to split the baby in half.

Problem is that the time is now, and the leverage is now. No reason to put off until tomorrow, or two weeks, or whatever.

Right now, we can get money to hungry families (though NYT is covering that Trump is trying to claw back money off EBT cards). Right now, the military is being paid, as it is.

Who knows what fresh hell Trump will introduce in the next few weeks. You already know there are unidentified masked guys in unmarked vans pulling American citizens off the streets, right? Even former US military, without notifying their families, offering access to a lawyer, even feeding them?

Two weeks is a loooooooooooooooooong time to work up some good Insurrectionist Act manuevers.

Nope. The time is now. Americans expect something to change, and this is the only lever in hand.

You’re walking right into their trap. What the Repubs really want is to extend the CR into next year.

Give them the lame duck bill that's on the Senate floor now so that you can better resist extending the next CR without ACA subsidies. Put Trump on notice that he should pull forward next month's snap benefits and replenish the contingency fund. Any competent admin could get it done.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:None a single billionaire is even offering to pony up money for the people of the country that pads their wallets. Is Musk going to try to feed the people in his new home state of Texas? Of course not. But he happily bought an election.

Is Zuckerberg so corrupted by his wealth and power at this point that he is immune to what his pediatrician/philanthropist wife thinks--or is she just as corrupt?

He has no morals. Profit over people. And, Trump has threatened to ruin his companies if he doesn’t support him.