What SHOULD the top 50-75 colleges do in their marketing to attract more men to attend to improve gender ratios?

[Anonymous]

Remember in Madame Secretary, the son says he wants to go to Vassar because it used to be all women and he liked the odds?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Essays from boys are going to be far inferior to girls and that is the major stumbling block.

As a female Georgia AO told us, "ask a girl to write how pretty she is and she will whip out 4 paragraphs. Boys need to take the same attitude."

Teenage boys dont write about feelings like girls do. And AO's want teenagers to pour their heart out in essays. This is like pulling teeth out for boys.

Wow, that’s a pretty gross thing for that AO to say. Regardless, men managed to dominate both the collegiate and the literary world for centuries until fairly recently, so I’m pretty sure they should be able to manage writing an essay.

If they’re having trouble writing about feelings, perhaps it’s because they’ve been conditioned to believe they shouldn’t have those, not so much that they can’t do it.

I highly doubt that was said. This thread is full of rage bait.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Essays from boys are going to be far inferior to girls and that is the major stumbling block.

As a female Georgia AO told us, "ask a girl to write how pretty she is and she will whip out 4 paragraphs. Boys need to take the same attitude."

Teenage boys dont write about feelings like girls do. And AO's want teenagers to pour their heart out in essays. This is like pulling teeth out for boys.

Wow, that’s a pretty gross thing for that AO to say. Regardless, men managed to dominate both the collegiate and the literary world for centuries until fairly recently, so I’m pretty sure they should be able to manage writing an essay.

If they’re having trouble writing about feelings, perhaps it’s because they’ve been conditioned to believe they shouldn’t have those, not so much that they can’t do it.

You are so closing to getting the point.

Then explain it to me like I’m a child. What’s your point?

[Anonymous]

It's not the colleges. Something is very wrong with the young, mostly white, male population in this country. They just aren't motivated. I don't know what happened.

[Anonymous]

Your DD can start dating women.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's not the colleges. Something is very wrong with the young, mostly white, male population in this country. They just aren't motivated. I don't know what happened.

Not at my son’s Ivy or my younger son’s all-male HS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Essays from boys are going to be far inferior to girls and that is the major stumbling block.

As a female Georgia AO told us, "ask a girl to write how pretty she is and she will whip out 4 paragraphs. Boys need to take the same attitude."

Teenage boys dont write about feelings like girls do. And AO's want teenagers to pour their heart out in essays. This is like pulling teeth out for boys.

Maybe don't generalize? My sons wrote beautiful essays.

Same. They have a fantastic writing program at their high school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Give merit for SAT scores. Weigh scores more than they currently do vs GPA.

That would go a long way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She’d be lucky to get a squash bro. Lots of those kids are pretty smart. The ones who want to go a school bc there were good video game themes seem less appealing

I live in Silicon Valley. All the bright, ambitious men here play a lot of video games. It's part of the DNA and you're weird and can't connect to male peers if you don't.

Neither of my sons spend much time with video games. We limited screen time growing up, had bedtime and no laptops/phones in bedrooms.

They played sports and by the time they hit high school, sports and school ate up most of their time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are you ok with your daughter losing a spot at these schools altogether in the interest of allowing more dateable young men in?

Not the OP but my DD said she doesn't care if she goes to a school ranked #55 versus #38 as long as there's a great student experience - which includes a normal and healthy male/female ratio. She doesn't want to go to college with 60-65% female population pining after the same five guys who get all the attention. She wants there to be lots of dateable guys and a more chill and less competitive dating atmosphere for women.

DD is high stats and considering the same after her HS experience.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Remember in Madame Secretary, the son says he wants to go to Vassar because it used to be all women and he liked the odds?

Girls do this all of the time. Polytechnic schools have way more males.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I feel bad for my DD who is a strong candidate for top 75 and wants to be in an intellectually stimulating enviro with lots of impressive straight men who are equally strong to date. What kinds of outreach should the top 75 schools be doing with strong male candidates to make their ratios closer to 50-50 or even 55-45 (and not 60-40 or 65-35 or worse)?

Our straight daughters deserve better than recruited squash players and recruited lax bros who barely passed their academic pre-reads.

What about open houses run by male AOs with video-game themes? More profiles of outstanding male students on brochures (my DD's college brochures she gets in the mail feature majority women)? Webinar or student panels which are at least 50-50 women-men. I was at panels at BU, Pomona, USC and Tufts where the student panels were all female and the tour guides were all women except for one lonely male. That doesn't give a reassuring signal to prospective male students so I can understand why they go elsewhere.

Additional ED3 round with later deadline for males (since they are slower to develop)?

The boys need to sign up for this stuff and get out of bed on Saturday morning. Again, it’s not that they’re being rejected from these panels, they don’t want to participate in the first place.

Well, duh. Every tour guide and campus panel we have ever met were seriously weird. You don’t judge a school on that. Period. Everyone should know that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh shut up. There’s a gender imbalance at all colleges not just the top ones.

Actually- not at the top ones (T1-T20)- they get enough qualified males that they can keep their ratios fairly equal.

It becomes a problem T50-60 and below.

[Anonymous]

My highly motivated male finds the female dating pool equally disappointing. They are not interested in partiers or those obsessed with social media and the like. They are at a top school, so even there it limits the options.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel bad for my DD who is a strong candidate for top 75 and wants to be in an intellectually stimulating enviro with lots of impressive straight men who are equally strong to date. What kinds of outreach should the top 75 schools be doing with strong male candidates to make their ratios closer to 50-50 or even 55-45 (and not 60-40 or 65-35 or worse)?

Our straight daughters deserve better than recruited squash players and recruited lax bros who barely passed their academic pre-reads.

What about open houses run by male AOs with video-game themes? More profiles of outstanding male students on brochures (my DD's college brochures she gets in the mail feature majority women)? Webinar or student panels which are at least 50-50 women-men. I was at panels at BU, Pomona, USC and Tufts where the student panels were all female and the tour guides were all women except for one lonely male. That doesn't give a reassuring signal to prospective male students so I can understand why they go elsewhere.

Additional ED3 round with later deadline for males (since they are slower to develop)?

The boys need to sign up for this stuff and get out of bed on Saturday morning. Again, it’s not that they’re being rejected from these panels, they don’t want to participate in the first place.

Well, duh. Every tour guide and campus panel we have ever met were seriously weird. You don’t judge a school on that. Period. Everyone should know that.

And this is why I don’t care whatsoever about the gender imbalance. I have a boy and a girl and they’ll both be fine. They both do well in school and are interested in knowing all sorts of people, regardless of how “seriously weird” they appear.