What SHOULD the top 50-75 colleges do in their marketing to attract more men to attend to improve gender ratios?

[Anonymous]

Essays from boys are going to be far inferior to girls and that is the major stumbling block.

As a female Georgia AO told us, "ask a girl to write how pretty she is and she will whip out 4 paragraphs. Boys need to take the same attitude."

Teenage boys dont write about feelings like girls do. And AO's want teenagers to pour their heart out in essays. This is like pulling teeth out for boys.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Essays from boys are going to be far inferior to girls and that is the major stumbling block.

As a female Georgia AO told us, "ask a girl to write how pretty she is and she will whip out 4 paragraphs. Boys need to take the same attitude."

Teenage boys dont write about feelings like girls do. And AO's want teenagers to pour their heart out in essays. This is like pulling teeth out for boys.

Maybe don't generalize? My sons wrote beautiful essays.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Essays from boys are going to be far inferior to girls and that is the major stumbling block.

As a female Georgia AO told us, "ask a girl to write how pretty she is and she will whip out 4 paragraphs. Boys need to take the same attitude."

Teenage boys dont write about feelings like girls do. And AO's want teenagers to pour their heart out in essays. This is like pulling teeth out for boys.

Wow, that’s a pretty gross thing for that AO to say. Regardless, men managed to dominate both the collegiate and the literary world for centuries until fairly recently, so I’m pretty sure they should be able to manage writing an essay.

If they’re having trouble writing about feelings, perhaps it’s because they’ve been conditioned to believe they shouldn’t have those, not so much that they can’t do it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She’d be lucky to get a squash bro. Lots of those kids are pretty smart. The ones who want to go a school bc there were good video game themes seem less appealing

I live in Silicon Valley. All the bright, ambitious men here play a lot of video games. It's part of the DNA and you're weird and can't connect to male peers if you don't.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I feel bad for my DD who is a strong candidate for top 75 and wants to be in an intellectually stimulating enviro with lots of impressive straight men who are equally strong to date. What kinds of outreach should the top 75 schools be doing with strong male candidates to make their ratios closer to 50-50 or even 55-45 (and not 60-40 or 65-35 or worse)?

Our straight daughters deserve better than recruited squash players and recruited lax bros who barely passed their academic pre-reads.

What about open houses run by male AOs with video-game themes? More profiles of outstanding male students on brochures (my DD's college brochures she gets in the mail feature majority women)? Webinar or student panels which are at least 50-50 women-men. I was at panels at BU, Pomona, USC and Tufts where the student panels were all female and the tour guides were all women except for one lonely male. That doesn't give a reassuring signal to prospective male students so I can understand why they go elsewhere.

Additional ED3 round with later deadline for males (since they are slower to develop)?

The boys need to sign up for this stuff and get out of bed on Saturday morning. Again, it’s not that they’re being rejected from these panels, they don’t want to participate in the first place.

We toured BC recently. They also had an all female student panel, which was pointed out by my son. They were all lovely and very impressive. But it is hard for a 17 year old boy to picture day to day social life at a school when the woman are talking about their experience on the dance team, shopping on Newbury Street on the weekends and getting boba with friends.

Our panel at BC was very similar. My DS scratched it off his list.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:She’d be lucky to get a squash bro. Lots of those kids are pretty smart. The ones who want to go a school bc there were good video game themes seem less appealing

I live in Silicon Valley. All the bright, ambitious men here play a lot of video games. It's part of the DNA and you're weird and can't connect to male peers if you don't.

+1 Gamer guys are cool guys. My DD would date them. But aren't they in short supply in college??

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:She’d be lucky to get a squash bro. Lots of those kids are pretty smart. The ones who want to go a school bc there were good video game themes seem less appealing

I live in Silicon Valley. All the bright, ambitious men here play a lot of video games. It's part of the DNA and you're weird and can't connect to male peers if you don't.

There needs to be a balance. Two of my kid’s friends have gamer roommates that do nothing but game…skip class, never go outside…these kids aren’t ambitious and are most definitely weird.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Essays from boys are going to be far inferior to girls and that is the major stumbling block.

As a female Georgia AO told us, "ask a girl to write how pretty she is and she will whip out 4 paragraphs. Boys need to take the same attitude."

Teenage boys dont write about feelings like girls do. And AO's want teenagers to pour their heart out in essays. This is like pulling teeth out for boys.

Wow, that’s a pretty gross thing for that AO to say. Regardless, men managed to dominate both the collegiate and the literary world for centuries until fairly recently, so I’m pretty sure they should be able to manage writing an essay.

If they’re having trouble writing about feelings, perhaps it’s because they’ve been conditioned to believe they shouldn’t have those, not so much that they can’t do it.

You are so closing to getting the point.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I feel bad for my DD who is a strong candidate for top 75 and wants to be in an intellectually stimulating enviro with lots of impressive straight men who are equally strong to date. What kinds of outreach should the top 75 schools be doing with strong male candidates to make their ratios closer to 50-50 or even 55-45 (and not 60-40 or 65-35 or worse)?

Our straight daughters deserve better than recruited squash players and recruited lax bros who barely passed their academic pre-reads.

What about open houses run by male AOs with video-game themes? More profiles of outstanding male students on brochures (my DD's college brochures she gets in the mail feature majority women)? Webinar or student panels which are at least 50-50 women-men. I was at panels at BU, Pomona, USC and Tufts where the student panels were all female and the tour guides were all women except for one lonely male. That doesn't give a reassuring signal to prospective male students so I can understand why they go elsewhere.

Additional ED3 round with later deadline for males (since they are slower to develop)?

The boys need to sign up for this stuff and get out of bed on Saturday morning. Again, it’s not that they’re being rejected from these panels, they don’t want to participate in the first place.

We toured BC recently. They also had an all female student panel, which was pointed out by my son. They were all lovely and very impressive. But it is hard for a 17 year old boy to picture day to day social life at a school when the woman are talking about their experience on the dance team, shopping on Newbury Street on the weekends and getting boba with friends.

Our panel at BC was very similar. My DS scratched it off his list.

Agree.

Sons had similar experiences at other schools

[Anonymous]

Single sex school that has a brother/sister school it socializes with.
Among other things, the guys step up to do recruiting panels and tours because it's not feminine coded to do that at a boys school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Single sex school that has a brother/sister school it socializes with.
Among other things, the guys step up to do recruiting panels and tours because it's not feminine coded to do that at a boys school.

Maybe a return to single sex colleges sharing a consortium? Like Haverford was all men and Bryn Mawr all women and they were 2 miles from each other and had the best of both worlds and a perfect gender ratio. Then they made Haverford co-ed but kept Bryn Mawr to all women, so the ratio is off. Same deal with Scripps and CMC. CMC used to stand for Claremont Mens College but became co-ed, while the kept Scripps single sex and all women.

[Anonymous]

Affirmative action for straight white men? 😂

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I feel bad for my DD who is a strong candidate for top 75 and wants to be in an intellectually stimulating enviro with lots of impressive straight men who are equally strong to date. What kinds of outreach should the top 75 schools be doing with strong male candidates to make their ratios closer to 50-50 or even 55-45 (and not 60-40 or 65-35 or worse)?

Our straight daughters deserve better than recruited squash players and recruited lax bros who barely passed their academic pre-reads.

What about open houses run by male AOs with video-game themes? More profiles of outstanding male students on brochures (my DD's college brochures she gets in the mail feature majority women)? Webinar or student panels which are at least 50-50 women-men. I was at panels at BU, Pomona, USC and Tufts where the student panels were all female and the tour guides were all women except for one lonely male. That doesn't give a reassuring signal to prospective male students so I can understand why they go elsewhere.

Additional ED3 round with later deadline for males (since they are slower to develop)?

The boys need to sign up for this stuff and get out of bed on Saturday morning. Again, it’s not that they’re being rejected from these panels, they don’t want to participate in the first place.

We toured BC recently. They also had an all female student panel, which was pointed out by my son. They were all lovely and very impressive. But it is hard for a 17 year old boy to picture day to day social life at a school when the woman are talking about their experience on the dance team, shopping on Newbury Street on the weekends and getting boba with friends.

Our panel at BC was very similar. My DS scratched it off his list.

Agree.

Sons had similar experiences at other schools

+1 Cornell.

What’s wrong with the male students on these campuses? Why are they less visible or involved than their female peers? I don’t get it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are you ok with your daughter losing a spot at these schools altogether in the interest of allowing more dateable young men in?

Not the OP but my DD said she doesn't care if she goes to a school ranked #55 versus #38 as long as there's a great student experience - which includes a normal and healthy male/female ratio. She doesn't want to go to college with 60-65% female population pining after the same five guys who get all the attention. She wants there to be lots of dateable guys and a more chill and less competitive dating atmosphere for women.

There being more guys doesn’t mean there’s more dateable guys.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Affirmative action for straight white men? 😂

straight men are needed. who said anything about them having to be white?