Trump illegally deports 2-year-old US citizen

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The judge in this case is pro Trump. The concern is due process. It's a valid concern but clearly too nuanced for many people too consumed by hatred for immigrants to care about silly things like the law.

It is hate for America.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The judge in this case is pro Trump. The concern is due process. It's a valid concern but clearly too nuanced for many people too consumed by hatred for immigrants to care about silly things like the law.

It is hate for America.

Are you suggesting we steal children from Honduran mothers?

[Anonymous]

News flash: American children can leave the country with their parents. That’s not a deportation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The judge in this case is pro Trump. The concern is due process. It's a valid concern but clearly too nuanced for many people too consumed by hatred for immigrants to care about silly things like the law.

It is hate for America.

Exactly! MAGA are on a destructive tear through our constitution and country. They REVEL in the details of foreign students abducted off streets, mothers taken from their babies, migrants sent to mega prisons overseas. Their vision of America is cruel and unforgiving. The rest of us don’t share that vision.

[Anonymous]

I dislike unlawful deportations as much as the next sane person, but can we use some common sense here?

Do people really think the right thing to do here would have been to rip a 2 year old from the custodial mom's arms and give her to her U.S. citizen father so a U.S. citizen wouldn't be "deported"?

Do we really want to set a precedent that when a child has a deportable parent and a U.S. citizen parent, the citizen parent automatically gets custody?

This sounds like a situation in which the government used common sense and decency and did not separate a small child from the parent who is the actual caregiver.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The child wasn’t deported. A US citizen cannot be deported. The illegal alien mother was deported and chose to bring her child back to her country with her. She put in writing that she wished to have the child return with her to her country.

Against the fathers wishes and with no due process. See the problem?

The problem is coming here illegally and having kids.

DP. You may not like it, but the US still has birthright citizenship under the constitution. The Supreme Court is expected to take up the matter, and it may rule against birthright citizenship but, for now, it’s still allowed by our constitution.

Are you suggesting that the constitution requires that undocumented immigrants who have children in America should be forced to give up their children to American authorities before being deported?

Not everything is worth pushing back on for the sake of partisanship. You're not using your brain here.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The judge in this case is pro Trump. The concern is due process. It's a valid concern but clearly too nuanced for many people too consumed by hatred for immigrants to care about silly things like the law.

It is hate for America.

Exactly! MAGA are on a destructive tear through our constitution and country. They REVEL in the details of foreign students abducted off streets, mothers taken from their babies, migrants sent to mega prisons overseas. Their vision of America is cruel and unforgiving. The rest of us don’t share that vision.

Dumb. It’s your side suggesting we should have taken this baby from her mother, which didn’t happen (thankfully).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I dislike unlawful deportations as much as the next sane person, but can we use some common sense here?

Do people really think the right thing to do here would have been to rip a 2 year old from the custodial mom's arms and give her to her U.S. citizen father so a U.S. citizen wouldn't be "deported"?

Do we really want to set a precedent that when a child has a deportable parent and a U.S. citizen parent, the citizen parent automatically gets custody?

This sounds like a situation in which the government used common sense and decency and did not separate a small child from the parent who is the actual caregiver.

Dad is illegal too, that’s why he refused to appear to ICE.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I dislike unlawful deportations as much as the next sane person, but can we use some common sense here?

Do people really think the right thing to do here would have been to rip a 2 year old from the custodial mom's arms and give her to her U.S. citizen father so a U.S. citizen wouldn't be "deported"?

Do we really want to set a precedent that when a child has a deportable parent and a U.S. citizen parent, the citizen parent automatically gets custody?

This sounds like a situation in which the government used common sense and decency and did not separate a small child from the parent who is the actual caregiver.

Dad is illegal too, that’s why he refused to appear to ICE.

Ok, so again, are you saying the right thing here is for the baby to be ripped from her mother's arms?

[Anonymous]

Wouldn’t taking this child from its custodial parent be kidnapping?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:ICE l, like trump mo, only lies when one of it's goon agents opens his mouth.

Nonsense. Illegals don’t belong here. She chose to take her citizen daughter. This is a non story.

Then why did the judge, a Trump appointee, raise concerns that the Trump administration deported a two-year-old U.S. citizen with “no meaningful process?

Great question

Why did a judge obstruct the lawful arrest of an illegal? Why did a judge harbor an illegal gang member on his property? We are allowed to dispute the judiciary. They aren’t our kings. He referred to the mother taking her own child as a deportation which is absurd, he knows as anyone else does that citizens can’t be deported.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the courts do not feel they can trust ICE’s word, and they can’t exclude the possibility of coercion on the part of ICE, or to follow due process.

“Trump administration officials said in court that the mother told ICE officials that she wished to take V.M.L. with her to Honduras. The filing included a handwritten note in Spanish they claimed was written by the mother and confirmed her intent. But the judge said he had hoped to verify that information.”

I think ICE feels like they can’t trust the judiciary after one judge was just arrested for obstructing a legal arrest.

Works both ways.

This. FAFO

It is almost universal that people who don't trust the judiciary are guilty of some crime.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I dislike unlawful deportations as much as the next sane person, but can we use some common sense here?

Do people really think the right thing to do here would have been to rip a 2 year old from the custodial mom's arms and give her to her U.S. citizen father so a U.S. citizen wouldn't be "deported"?

Do we really want to set a precedent that when a child has a deportable parent and a U.S. citizen parent, the citizen parent automatically gets custody?

This sounds like a situation in which the government used common sense and decency and did not separate a small child from the parent who is the actual caregiver.

Dad is illegal too, that’s why he refused to appear to ICE.

Ok, so again, are you saying the right thing here is for the baby to be ripped from her mother's arms?

No just correcting PP who said he was a citizen.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the courts do not feel they can trust ICE’s word, and they can’t exclude the possibility of coercion on the part of ICE, or to follow due process.

“Trump administration officials said in court that the mother told ICE officials that she wished to take V.M.L. with her to Honduras. The filing included a handwritten note in Spanish they claimed was written by the mother and confirmed her intent. But the judge said he had hoped to verify that information.”

I think ICE feels like they can’t trust the judiciary after one judge was just arrested for obstructing a legal arrest.

Works both ways.

This. FAFO

It is almost universal that people who don't trust the judiciary are guilty of some crime.

Ridiculous assertion.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The child wasn’t deported. A US citizen cannot be deported. The illegal alien mother was deported and chose to bring her child back to her country with her. She put in writing that she wished to have the child return with her to her country.

Against the fathers wishes and with no due process. See the problem?

So now you want to separate families? Make up your mind!