Trump illegally deports 2-year-old US citizen

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Anonymous wrote:The crux of this story is that this particular deportation--like so many others we have already read about--appeared to be rushed and did not follow a "meaningful process" (judge's words). The judge--by all accounts a pro-Trump judge who has come through for Trump in the past--was concerned enough about the lack of a "meaningful process" that he scheduled a hearing for May 16 to follow up on this matter. Sounds like another "oopsie it's too late" removal.

The child can come back since she is a citizen. Why do you all keep repeating lies?

I'm the pp you're responding to. Where's the lie? I just summarized the story that the PP linked. The judge was concerned and scheduled a hearing due to what the judge perceived as a lack of a "meaningful process." Where's the lie?

The lie is where you said "Sounds like another "oopsie it's too late" removal." The child went with her mother as the mother requested. She is a US citizen and can return to the US the same as any other citizen if her mother allows it. The mother can arrange for a US citizen guardian to escort her and put her on a plane back to the US today if she wanted to. Why wait until the hearing in May?

The use of "sounds like" is not a lie, it's an opinion. That opinion is based on this quoted section of the article, which gives the impression that the child and mother were taken out of the US before the judge had the opportunity to talk to the mother directly about whether she really wanted to take the child to Honduras with her. But apparently you know more than the judge--based on your years of experience as a judge.

But the Louisiana case is the latest concern by the courts that the Trump administration’s rush to carry out deportations is violating due process rights — in this case, the rights of a U.S. citizen child. Doughty said he attempted to investigate the emergency matter himself on Friday, seeking to get V.M.L.’s mother on the phone to determine whether ICE’s representation about her desire to bring V.M.L. to Honduras was accurate. The judge said he was “independently aware” that the plane he believed was carrying the family was already “above the Gulf of America.”

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Anonymous wrote:The crux of this story is that this particular deportation--like so many others we have already read about--appeared to be rushed and did not follow a "meaningful process" (judge's words). The judge--by all accounts a pro-Trump judge who has come through for Trump in the past--was concerned enough about the lack of a "meaningful process" that he scheduled a hearing for May 16 to follow up on this matter. Sounds like another "oopsie it's too late" removal.

The child can come back since she is a citizen. Why do you all keep repeating lies?

I'm the pp you're responding to. Where's the lie? I just summarized the story that the PP linked. The judge was concerned and scheduled a hearing due to what the judge perceived as a lack of a "meaningful process." Where's the lie?

The lie is where you said "Sounds like another "oopsie it's too late" removal." The child went with her mother as the mother requested. She is a US citizen and can return to the US the same as any other citizen if her mother allows it. The mother can arrange for a US citizen guardian to escort her and put her on a plane back to the US today if she wanted to. Why wait until the hearing in May?

The use of "sounds like" is not a lie, it's an opinion. That opinion is based on this quoted section of the article, which gives the impression that the child and mother were taken out of the US before the judge had the opportunity to talk to the mother directly about whether she really wanted to take the child to Honduras with her. But apparently you know more than the judge--based on your years of experience as a judge.

But the Louisiana case is the latest concern by the courts that the Trump administration’s rush to carry out deportations is violating due process rights — in this case, the rights of a U.S. citizen child. Doughty said he attempted to investigate the emergency matter himself on Friday, seeking to get V.M.L.’s mother on the phone to determine whether ICE’s representation about her desire to bring V.M.L. to Honduras was accurate. The judge said he was “independently aware” that the plane he believed was carrying the family was already “above the Gulf of America.”

Play this out. Imagine if ICE had kept the child with the unrelated guardian after the dad failed to appeared as requested. Can you imagine the headlines? “Trump rips toddler from mother! The monster!”

The judge didn’t need to question this woman. She knew she was illegal and subject to deportation. Her child being American doesn’t make her a citizen.

She is an adult and made her choice to keep the child with her - I would have done the same.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The crux of this story is that this particular deportation--like so many others we have already read about--appeared to be rushed and did not follow a "meaningful process" (judge's words). The judge--by all accounts a pro-Trump judge who has come through for Trump in the past--was concerned enough about the lack of a "meaningful process" that he scheduled a hearing for May 16 to follow up on this matter. Sounds like another "oopsie it's too late" removal.

The child can come back since she is a citizen. Why do you all keep repeating lies?

I'm the pp you're responding to. Where's the lie? I just summarized the story that the PP linked. The judge was concerned and scheduled a hearing due to what the judge perceived as a lack of a "meaningful process." Where's the lie?

The lie is where you said "Sounds like another "oopsie it's too late" removal." The child went with her mother as the mother requested. She is a US citizen and can return to the US the same as any other citizen if her mother allows it. The mother can arrange for a US citizen guardian to escort her and put her on a plane back to the US today if she wanted to. Why wait until the hearing in May?

The use of "sounds like" is not a lie, it's an opinion. That opinion is based on this quoted section of the article, which gives the impression that the child and mother were taken out of the US before the judge had the opportunity to talk to the mother directly about whether she really wanted to take the child to Honduras with her. But apparently you know more than the judge--based on your years of experience as a judge.

But the Louisiana case is the latest concern by the courts that the Trump administration’s rush to carry out deportations is violating due process rights — in this case, the rights of a U.S. citizen child. Doughty said he attempted to investigate the emergency matter himself on Friday, seeking to get V.M.L.’s mother on the phone to determine whether ICE’s representation about her desire to bring V.M.L. to Honduras was accurate. The judge said he was “independently aware” that the plane he believed was carrying the family was already “above the Gulf of America.”

Play this out. Imagine if ICE had kept the child with the unrelated guardian after the dad failed to appeared as requested. Can you imagine the headlines? “Trump rips toddler from mother! The monster!”

The judge didn’t need to question this woman. She knew she was illegal and subject to deportation. Her child being American doesn’t make her a citizen.

She is an adult and made her choice to keep the child with her - I would have done the same.

Well I think you should write to the judge right away and share your opinions. Perhaps you will sway him and he will cancel the hearing he has scheduled for May.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The crux of this story is that this particular deportation--like so many others we have already read about--appeared to be rushed and did not follow a "meaningful process" (judge's words). The judge--by all accounts a pro-Trump judge who has come through for Trump in the past--was concerned enough about the lack of a "meaningful process" that he scheduled a hearing for May 16 to follow up on this matter. Sounds like another "oopsie it's too late" removal.

The child can come back since she is a citizen. Why do you all keep repeating lies?

I'm the pp you're responding to. Where's the lie? I just summarized the story that the PP linked. The judge was concerned and scheduled a hearing due to what the judge perceived as a lack of a "meaningful process." Where's the lie?

The lie is where you said "Sounds like another "oopsie it's too late" removal." The child went with her mother as the mother requested. She is a US citizen and can return to the US the same as any other citizen if her mother allows it. The mother can arrange for a US citizen guardian to escort her and put her on a plane back to the US today if she wanted to. Why wait until the hearing in May?

The use of "sounds like" is not a lie, it's an opinion. That opinion is based on this quoted section of the article, which gives the impression that the child and mother were taken out of the US before the judge had the opportunity to talk to the mother directly about whether she really wanted to take the child to Honduras with her. But apparently you know more than the judge--based on your years of experience as a judge.

But the Louisiana case is the latest concern by the courts that the Trump administration’s rush to carry out deportations is violating due process rights — in this case, the rights of a U.S. citizen child. Doughty said he attempted to investigate the emergency matter himself on Friday, seeking to get V.M.L.’s mother on the phone to determine whether ICE’s representation about her desire to bring V.M.L. to Honduras was accurate. The judge said he was “independently aware” that the plane he believed was carrying the family was already “above the Gulf of America.”

There is no such thing as a removal of a US citizen. She got a free flight to Honduras with her mother, who is her guardian.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The crux of this story is that this particular deportation--like so many others we have already read about--appeared to be rushed and did not follow a "meaningful process" (judge's words). The judge--by all accounts a pro-Trump judge who has come through for Trump in the past--was concerned enough about the lack of a "meaningful process" that he scheduled a hearing for May 16 to follow up on this matter. Sounds like another "oopsie it's too late" removal.

The child can come back since she is a citizen. Why do you all keep repeating lies?

I'm the pp you're responding to. Where's the lie? I just summarized the story that the PP linked. The judge was concerned and scheduled a hearing due to what the judge perceived as a lack of a "meaningful process." Where's the lie?

The lie is where you said "Sounds like another "oopsie it's too late" removal." The child went with her mother as the mother requested. She is a US citizen and can return to the US the same as any other citizen if her mother allows it. The mother can arrange for a US citizen guardian to escort her and put her on a plane back to the US today if she wanted to. Why wait until the hearing in May?

The use of "sounds like" is not a lie, it's an opinion. That opinion is based on this quoted section of the article, which gives the impression that the child and mother were taken out of the US before the judge had the opportunity to talk to the mother directly about whether she really wanted to take the child to Honduras with her. But apparently you know more than the judge--based on your years of experience as a judge.

But the Louisiana case is the latest concern by the courts that the Trump administration’s rush to carry out deportations is violating due process rights — in this case, the rights of a U.S. citizen child. Doughty said he attempted to investigate the emergency matter himself on Friday, seeking to get V.M.L.’s mother on the phone to determine whether ICE’s representation about her desire to bring V.M.L. to Honduras was accurate. The judge said he was “independently aware” that the plane he believed was carrying the family was already “above the Gulf of America.”

There is no such thing as a removal of a US citizen. She got a free flight to Honduras with her mother, who is her guardian.

Why couldn't the judge understand that?!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The crux of this story is that this particular deportation--like so many others we have already read about--appeared to be rushed and did not follow a "meaningful process" (judge's words). The judge--by all accounts a pro-Trump judge who has come through for Trump in the past--was concerned enough about the lack of a "meaningful process" that he scheduled a hearing for May 16 to follow up on this matter. Sounds like another "oopsie it's too late" removal.

The child can come back since she is a citizen. Why do you all keep repeating lies?

I'm the pp you're responding to. Where's the lie? I just summarized the story that the PP linked. The judge was concerned and scheduled a hearing due to what the judge perceived as a lack of a "meaningful process." Where's the lie?

The lie is where you said "Sounds like another "oopsie it's too late" removal." The child went with her mother as the mother requested. She is a US citizen and can return to the US the same as any other citizen if her mother allows it. The mother can arrange for a US citizen guardian to escort her and put her on a plane back to the US today if she wanted to. Why wait until the hearing in May?

The use of "sounds like" is not a lie, it's an opinion. That opinion is based on this quoted section of the article, which gives the impression that the child and mother were taken out of the US before the judge had the opportunity to talk to the mother directly about whether she really wanted to take the child to Honduras with her. But apparently you know more than the judge--based on your years of experience as a judge.

But the Louisiana case is the latest concern by the courts that the Trump administration’s rush to carry out deportations is violating due process rights — in this case, the rights of a U.S. citizen child. Doughty said he attempted to investigate the emergency matter himself on Friday, seeking to get V.M.L.’s mother on the phone to determine whether ICE’s representation about her desire to bring V.M.L. to Honduras was accurate. The judge said he was “independently aware” that the plane he believed was carrying the family was already “above the Gulf of America.”

Play this out. Imagine if ICE had kept the child with the unrelated guardian after the dad failed to appeared as requested. Can you imagine the headlines? “Trump rips toddler from mother! The monster!”

The judge didn’t need to question this woman. She knew she was illegal and subject to deportation. Her child being American doesn’t make her a citizen.

She is an adult and made her choice to keep the child with her - I would have done the same.

Well I think you should write to the judge right away and share your opinions. Perhaps you will sway him and he will cancel the hearing he has scheduled for May.

Your appeal to authority has been noted.

In this country we get to have opinions. And yes, it’s ok if those opinions differ from that of a single judge.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The crux of this story is that this particular deportation--like so many others we have already read about--appeared to be rushed and did not follow a "meaningful process" (judge's words). The judge--by all accounts a pro-Trump judge who has come through for Trump in the past--was concerned enough about the lack of a "meaningful process" that he scheduled a hearing for May 16 to follow up on this matter. Sounds like another "oopsie it's too late" removal.

The child can come back since she is a citizen. Why do you all keep repeating lies?

I'm the pp you're responding to. Where's the lie? I just summarized the story that the PP linked. The judge was concerned and scheduled a hearing due to what the judge perceived as a lack of a "meaningful process." Where's the lie?

The lie is where you said "Sounds like another "oopsie it's too late" removal." The child went with her mother as the mother requested. She is a US citizen and can return to the US the same as any other citizen if her mother allows it. The mother can arrange for a US citizen guardian to escort her and put her on a plane back to the US today if she wanted to. Why wait until the hearing in May?

The use of "sounds like" is not a lie, it's an opinion. That opinion is based on this quoted section of the article, which gives the impression that the child and mother were taken out of the US before the judge had the opportunity to talk to the mother directly about whether she really wanted to take the child to Honduras with her. But apparently you know more than the judge--based on your years of experience as a judge.

But the Louisiana case is the latest concern by the courts that the Trump administration’s rush to carry out deportations is violating due process rights — in this case, the rights of a U.S. citizen child. Doughty said he attempted to investigate the emergency matter himself on Friday, seeking to get V.M.L.’s mother on the phone to determine whether ICE’s representation about her desire to bring V.M.L. to Honduras was accurate. The judge said he was “independently aware” that the plane he believed was carrying the family was already “above the Gulf of America.”

Play this out. Imagine if ICE had kept the child with the unrelated guardian after the dad failed to appeared as requested. Can you imagine the headlines? “Trump rips toddler from mother! The monster!”

The judge didn’t need to question this woman. She knew she was illegal and subject to deportation. Her child being American doesn’t make her a citizen.

She is an adult and made her choice to keep the child with her - I would have done the same.

Well I think you should write to the judge right away and share your opinions. Perhaps you will sway him and he will cancel the hearing he has scheduled for May.

Your appeal to authority has been noted.

In this country we get to have opinions. And yes, it’s ok if those opinions differ from that of a single judge.

Amen to still having 1st amendment rights. That's something we can all agree on.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The crux of this story is that this particular deportation--like so many others we have already read about--appeared to be rushed and did not follow a "meaningful process" (judge's words). The judge--by all accounts a pro-Trump judge who has come through for Trump in the past--was concerned enough about the lack of a "meaningful process" that he scheduled a hearing for May 16 to follow up on this matter. Sounds like another "oopsie it's too late" removal.

The child can come back since she is a citizen. Why do you all keep repeating lies?

I'm the pp you're responding to. Where's the lie? I just summarized the story that the PP linked. The judge was concerned and scheduled a hearing due to what the judge perceived as a lack of a "meaningful process." Where's the lie?

The lie is where you said "Sounds like another "oopsie it's too late" removal." The child went with her mother as the mother requested. She is a US citizen and can return to the US the same as any other citizen if her mother allows it. The mother can arrange for a US citizen guardian to escort her and put her on a plane back to the US today if she wanted to. Why wait until the hearing in May?

The use of "sounds like" is not a lie, it's an opinion. That opinion is based on this quoted section of the article, which gives the impression that the child and mother were taken out of the US before the judge had the opportunity to talk to the mother directly about whether she really wanted to take the child to Honduras with her. But apparently you know more than the judge--based on your years of experience as a judge.

But the Louisiana case is the latest concern by the courts that the Trump administration’s rush to carry out deportations is violating due process rights — in this case, the rights of a U.S. citizen child. Doughty said he attempted to investigate the emergency matter himself on Friday, seeking to get V.M.L.’s mother on the phone to determine whether ICE’s representation about her desire to bring V.M.L. to Honduras was accurate. The judge said he was “independently aware” that the plane he believed was carrying the family was already “above the Gulf of America.”

Play this out. Imagine if ICE had kept the child with the unrelated guardian after the dad failed to appeared as requested. Can you imagine the headlines? “Trump rips toddler from mother! The monster!”

The judge didn’t need to question this woman. She knew she was illegal and subject to deportation. Her child being American doesn’t make her a citizen.

She is an adult and made her choice to keep the child with her - I would have done the same.

Well I think you should write to the judge right away and share your opinions. Perhaps you will sway him and he will cancel the hearing he has scheduled for May.

Your appeal to authority has been noted.

In this country we get to have opinions. And yes, it’s ok if those opinions differ from that of a single judge.

No one is denying your right to be wrong.

[Anonymous]

The only conclusion here is that either the child stays with her mother in Honduras or is flown back to the US.

And they likely will still deport the father. So in this case the family is fighting for family separation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The crux of this story is that this particular deportation--like so many others we have already read about--appeared to be rushed and did not follow a "meaningful process" (judge's words). The judge--by all accounts a pro-Trump judge who has come through for Trump in the past--was concerned enough about the lack of a "meaningful process" that he scheduled a hearing for May 16 to follow up on this matter. Sounds like another "oopsie it's too late" removal.

The child can come back since she is a citizen. Why do you all keep repeating lies?

I'm the pp you're responding to. Where's the lie? I just summarized the story that the PP linked. The judge was concerned and scheduled a hearing due to what the judge perceived as a lack of a "meaningful process." Where's the lie?

The lie is where you said "Sounds like another "oopsie it's too late" removal." The child went with her mother as the mother requested. She is a US citizen and can return to the US the same as any other citizen if her mother allows it. The mother can arrange for a US citizen guardian to escort her and put her on a plane back to the US today if she wanted to. Why wait until the hearing in May?

The use of "sounds like" is not a lie, it's an opinion. That opinion is based on this quoted section of the article, which gives the impression that the child and mother were taken out of the US before the judge had the opportunity to talk to the mother directly about whether she really wanted to take the child to Honduras with her. But apparently you know more than the judge--based on your years of experience as a judge.

But the Louisiana case is the latest concern by the courts that the Trump administration’s rush to carry out deportations is violating due process rights — in this case, the rights of a U.S. citizen child. Doughty said he attempted to investigate the emergency matter himself on Friday, seeking to get V.M.L.’s mother on the phone to determine whether ICE’s representation about her desire to bring V.M.L. to Honduras was accurate. The judge said he was “independently aware” that the plane he believed was carrying the family was already “above the Gulf of America.”

Play this out. Imagine if ICE had kept the child with the unrelated guardian after the dad failed to appeared as requested. Can you imagine the headlines? “Trump rips toddler from mother! The monster!”

The judge didn’t need to question this woman. She knew she was illegal and subject to deportation. Her child being American doesn’t make her a citizen.

She is an adult and made her choice to keep the child with her - I would have done the same.

Well I think you should write to the judge right away and share your opinions. Perhaps you will sway him and he will cancel the hearing he has scheduled for May.

He should cancel the hearing. Contrary to news reports, it appears the father is not married to the mother. Court documents just say 'father'. Under Louisiana law, this gives sole custody to the mother. There is no guardian who can sue for custody, and the father cannot either.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The crux of this story is that this particular deportation--like so many others we have already read about--appeared to be rushed and did not follow a "meaningful process" (judge's words). The judge--by all accounts a pro-Trump judge who has come through for Trump in the past--was concerned enough about the lack of a "meaningful process" that he scheduled a hearing for May 16 to follow up on this matter. Sounds like another "oopsie it's too late" removal.

The child can come back since she is a citizen. Why do you all keep repeating lies?

I'm the pp you're responding to. Where's the lie? I just summarized the story that the PP linked. The judge was concerned and scheduled a hearing due to what the judge perceived as a lack of a "meaningful process." Where's the lie?

The lie is where you said "Sounds like another "oopsie it's too late" removal." The child went with her mother as the mother requested. She is a US citizen and can return to the US the same as any other citizen if her mother allows it. The mother can arrange for a US citizen guardian to escort her and put her on a plane back to the US today if she wanted to. Why wait until the hearing in May?

The use of "sounds like" is not a lie, it's an opinion. That opinion is based on this quoted section of the article, which gives the impression that the child and mother were taken out of the US before the judge had the opportunity to talk to the mother directly about whether she really wanted to take the child to Honduras with her. But apparently you know more than the judge--based on your years of experience as a judge.

But the Louisiana case is the latest concern by the courts that the Trump administration’s rush to carry out deportations is violating due process rights — in this case, the rights of a U.S. citizen child. Doughty said he attempted to investigate the emergency matter himself on Friday, seeking to get V.M.L.’s mother on the phone to determine whether ICE’s representation about her desire to bring V.M.L. to Honduras was accurate. The judge said he was “independently aware” that the plane he believed was carrying the family was already “above the Gulf of America.”

Play this out. Imagine if ICE had kept the child with the unrelated guardian after the dad failed to appeared as requested. Can you imagine the headlines? “Trump rips toddler from mother! The monster!”

The judge didn’t need to question this woman. She knew she was illegal and subject to deportation. Her child being American doesn’t make her a citizen.

She is an adult and made her choice to keep the child with her - I would have done the same.

Well I think you should write to the judge right away and share your opinions. Perhaps you will sway him and he will cancel the hearing he has scheduled for May.

Your appeal to authority has been noted.

In this country we get to have opinions. And yes, it’s ok if those opinions differ from that of a single judge.

No one is denying your right to be wrong.

I get it, you wanted the US to snatch a toddler out of her mother’s arms.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The only conclusion here is that either the child stays with her mother in Honduras or is flown back to the US.

And they likely will still deport the father. So in this case the family is fighting for family separation.

What is the best interest of the child? Raised by a foster family in the US or by her mother in Honduras? This is a determination for her mother to make.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The child wasn’t deported. A US citizen cannot be deported. The illegal alien mother was deported and chose to bring her child back to her country with her. She put in writing that she wished to have the child return with her to her country.

Against the fathers wishes and with no due process. See the problem?

The problem is coming here illegally and having kids.

DP. You may not like it, but the US still has birthright citizenship under the constitution. The Supreme Court is expected to take up the matter, and it may rule against birthright citizenship but, for now, it’s still allowed by our constitution.

Birthright citizenship is one of several factors that make this mass deportation agenda so messy.

I'm convinced a large majority American people would support an agenda that prioritizes securing the border completely, reforming immigration/asylum laws and then focusing solely on the deportation of criminals and proven gang members who don't have legal status to be here.

No. Everyone illegal should be sent out. Criminal or not. This whole American only want criminals deported and wants all other illegals to stay is made up.

Sure, those who illegally crossed the border detected or undetected without presenting themselves at a port of entry requesting asylum should be deported immediately.

There are many more here who followed our asylum protocols and are waiting for their cases to be heard. They should not be subject to deportation until their asylum case is heard.

Hopefully you understand the difference between someone who illegally crossed the border and those who requested asylum at a port of entry.

Demand reform of our immigration amd asylum protocols. Leave people who are caught up in the mess of our broken asylum process, dysfunctional Congress and awful presidents alone.

[Anonymous]

People who follow asylum protocols and are waiting on cases to be heard aren’t considered illegal immigrants. Don’t conflate the two.

[Anonymous]

Who actually has custody of this child, and are any of them US citizens?