My headspace for the next 4 years

[Anonymous]

I’m just buying bitcoin and holding.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I supported Harris for president but was ready to oppose many of her policies. I have similar issues with Trump. The Dems deserved to go down just as much as Trump. What is fascinating is how they missed so many obvious signs that they never had the mandates they thought they had for several years. The election had been very thing to do with Dem overreach on identity politics and nothing about Trump. Yes, he is a horrible person, but people already knew that. That is how egregious people felt those politics were. Sure, they like Obamacare but they hate being told things like xyz so you must vote Dem otherwise you’re a self hating so and so, or MAGA, or racist, or misogynistic, or whatever.

Voters want balance and that’s why the same district will vote AOC and Trump.

I’m not happy about some things Trump will do, but the Dem meltdowns are entertaining. I will spend the next four years thinking, I told you so. I have very little empathy for people like OP.

But that's OP's point - we aren't having meltdowns. We're over it.

+1 It's weird how many people I know and talk to are all in this same space. It must be some innate thing to our psychology for it to happen in this widespread way.

My friends and family who belong to more vulnerable groups are not in this mental space. And some other people I know - mostly online - are in the full on panic space, doing things like moving their money out of American banks in case Project 2025 takes away the FDIC and/or women's rights to hold their own accounts.

But most people I know, including myself, are not having meltdowns. We're tired and if you want to touch the stove, touch the stove.

This. I am no longer going to be the protector. You want to run with scissors, do it. I won't stop you.
Republicans are like a toddler wanting a knife, to touch the stove, to drink bleach, to jump off the roof.
Ok. have at it. I really don't care.
No hysteria that kids are jumping off houses. No worry about scissors in the eye. Do you man.

How do you feel about the public education system?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I supported Harris for president but was ready to oppose many of her policies. I have similar issues with Trump. The Dems deserved to go down just as much as Trump. What is fascinating is how they missed so many obvious signs that they never had the mandates they thought they had for several years. The election had been very thing to do with Dem overreach on identity politics and nothing about Trump. Yes, he is a horrible person, but people already knew that. That is how egregious people felt those politics were. Sure, they like Obamacare but they hate being told things like xyz so you must vote Dem otherwise you’re a self hating so and so, or MAGA, or racist, or misogynistic, or whatever.

Voters want balance and that’s why the same district will vote AOC and Trump.

I’m not happy about some things Trump will do, but the Dem meltdowns are entertaining. I will spend the next four years thinking, I told you so. I have very little empathy for people like OP.

This +100

This is partially but only partially where I’m at, too. Tipping me to that - a poster upthread snotted “Sorry?” at someone who noted that not all vulnerable people abandoned Harris, and that s/be voted for Harris. That “Sorry?” is this thread boiled down to a word.

The PP who tried to convince lots of family members to be sane and yet they voted for Trump - I am really sorry. I think I get how crazy-making it is to actually sit down with someone you care about and plead for them to look at something dispassionately. This all sucks. My family is going to suffer.
None of us were ever gonna abandon the Dem nominee.

The fact is that plenty of vulnerable people did not support Trump on any level. It makes me still emotional even if there’s no point to see person after person here say they’re preemptively going to shrug at another Muslim ban, as if literally every MENA person voted for him or abstained. It’s just not true. It’s such an ugly posture to take. I know this won’t change minds but I wish people would stop doing these sorts of fk yous. The internet is real life, right? If you respond to things and say the cruelest sht imaginable doesn’t that speak to who you are, too? That’s not the same behavior as just being disengaged. You can go on sabbatical without hitting the leopard ate my face meme on every thread here til January 2029.

I'm not completely sure what you're trying to say - but I think this apathetic reaction is a coping mechanism. He's not even in office yet. I'm sure some people will resist (or whatever word you want to use) once he actually does something egregious. Praying it won't be as bad as he suggested during the campaign.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I supported Harris for president but was ready to oppose many of her policies. I have similar issues with Trump. The Dems deserved to go down just as much as Trump. What is fascinating is how they missed so many obvious signs that they never had the mandates they thought they had for several years. The election had been very thing to do with Dem overreach on identity politics and nothing about Trump. Yes, he is a horrible person, but people already knew that. That is how egregious people felt those politics were. Sure, they like Obamacare but they hate being told things like xyz so you must vote Dem otherwise you’re a self hating so and so, or MAGA, or racist, or misogynistic, or whatever.

Voters want balance and that’s why the same district will vote AOC and Trump.

I’m not happy about some things Trump will do, but the Dem meltdowns are entertaining. I will spend the next four years thinking, I told you so. I have very little empathy for people like OP.

This +100

This is partially but only partially where I’m at, too. Tipping me to that - a poster upthread snotted “Sorry?” at someone who noted that not all vulnerable people abandoned Harris, and that s/be voted for Harris. That “Sorry?” is this thread boiled down to a word.

The PP who tried to convince lots of family members to be sane and yet they voted for Trump - I am really sorry. I think I get how crazy-making it is to actually sit down with someone you care about and plead for them to look at something dispassionately. This all sucks. My family is going to suffer.
None of us were ever gonna abandon the Dem nominee.

The fact is that plenty of vulnerable people did not support Trump on any level. It makes me still emotional even if there’s no point to see person after person here say they’re preemptively going to shrug at another Muslim ban, as if literally every MENA person voted for him or abstained. It’s just not true. It’s such an ugly posture to take. I know this won’t change minds but I wish people would stop doing these sorts of fk yous. The internet is real life, right? If you respond to things and say the cruelest sht imaginable doesn’t that speak to who you are, too? That’s not the same behavior as just being disengaged. You can go on sabbatical without hitting the leopard ate my face meme on every thread here til January 2029.

I hear you. My OP was not meant to be an FU. But rather an "I am tired and I refuse to get drawn into the chaos."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I supported Harris for president but was ready to oppose many of her policies. I have similar issues with Trump. The Dems deserved to go down just as much as Trump. What is fascinating is how they missed so many obvious signs that they never had the mandates they thought they had for several years. The election had been very thing to do with Dem overreach on identity politics and nothing about Trump. Yes, he is a horrible person, but people already knew that. That is how egregious people felt those politics were. Sure, they like Obamacare but they hate being told things like xyz so you must vote Dem otherwise you’re a self hating so and so, or MAGA, or racist, or misogynistic, or whatever.

Voters want balance and that’s why the same district will vote AOC and Trump.

I’m not happy about some things Trump will do, but the Dem meltdowns are entertaining. I will spend the next four years thinking, I told you so. I have very little empathy for people like OP.

But that's OP's point - we aren't having meltdowns. We're over it.

+1 It's weird how many people I know and talk to are all in this same space. It must be some innate thing to our psychology for it to happen in this widespread way.

My friends and family who belong to more vulnerable groups are not in this mental space. And some other people I know - mostly online - are in the full on panic space, doing things like moving their money out of American banks in case Project 2025 takes away the FDIC and/or women's rights to hold their own accounts.

But most people I know, including myself, are not having meltdowns. We're tired and if you want to touch the stove, touch the stove.

Humans are by nature self-protective. If you are demonized for caring and told that you are arrogant and condescending and hateful for doing so and then you are definitively told that your care is not needed or valued, it would be insanity to keep trying. Most of us are not insane. We’ve been told the body politic wants Trump and his cruelty and destruction. So ok. I’m not going out on the heath to yell Lear-like at the gods. Got to take care of yourself and your family now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I supported Harris for president but was ready to oppose many of her policies. I have similar issues with Trump. The Dems deserved to go down just as much as Trump. What is fascinating is how they missed so many obvious signs that they never had the mandates they thought they had for several years. The election had been very thing to do with Dem overreach on identity politics and nothing about Trump. Yes, he is a horrible person, but people already knew that. That is how egregious people felt those politics were. Sure, they like Obamacare but they hate being told things like xyz so you must vote Dem otherwise you’re a self hating so and so, or MAGA, or racist, or misogynistic, or whatever.

Voters want balance and that’s why the same district will vote AOC and Trump.

I’m not happy about some things Trump will do, but the Dem meltdowns are entertaining. I will spend the next four years thinking, I told you so. I have very little empathy for people like OP.

This +100

This is partially but only partially where I’m at, too. Tipping me to that - a poster upthread snotted “Sorry?” at someone who noted that not all vulnerable people abandoned Harris, and that s/be voted for Harris. That “Sorry?” is this thread boiled down to a word.

The PP who tried to convince lots of family members to be sane and yet they voted for Trump - I am really sorry. I think I get how crazy-making it is to actually sit down with someone you care about and plead for them to look at something dispassionately. This all sucks. My family is going to suffer.
None of us were ever gonna abandon the Dem nominee.

The fact is that plenty of vulnerable people did not support Trump on any level. It makes me still emotional even if there’s no point to see person after person here say they’re preemptively going to shrug at another Muslim ban, as if literally every MENA person voted for him or abstained. It’s just not true. It’s such an ugly posture to take. I know this won’t change minds but I wish people would stop doing these sorts of fk yous. The internet is real life, right? If you respond to things and say the cruelest sht imaginable doesn’t that speak to who you are, too? That’s not the same behavior as just being disengaged. You can go on sabbatical without hitting the leopard ate my face meme on every thread here til January 2029.

I hear you. My OP was not meant to be an FU. But rather an "I am tired and I refuse to get drawn into the chaos."

DP - I didn't read it as an FU. But its because I'm on the same headspace as you. I mentioned above that I think this apathy is a coping mechanism. We'll see how that evolves once he's actually in office.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I supported Harris for president but was ready to oppose many of her policies. I have similar issues with Trump. The Dems deserved to go down just as much as Trump. What is fascinating is how they missed so many obvious signs that they never had the mandates they thought they had for several years. The election had been very thing to do with Dem overreach on identity politics and nothing about Trump. Yes, he is a horrible person, but people already knew that. That is how egregious people felt those politics were. Sure, they like Obamacare but they hate being told things like xyz so you must vote Dem otherwise you’re a self hating so and so, or MAGA, or racist, or misogynistic, or whatever.

Voters want balance and that’s why the same district will vote AOC and Trump.

I’m not happy about some things Trump will do, but the Dem meltdowns are entertaining. I will spend the next four years thinking, I told you so. I have very little empathy for people like OP.

This +100

This is partially but only partially where I’m at, too. Tipping me to that - a poster upthread snotted “Sorry?” at someone who noted that not all vulnerable people abandoned Harris, and that s/be voted for Harris. That “Sorry?” is this thread boiled down to a word.

The PP who tried to convince lots of family members to be sane and yet they voted for Trump - I am really sorry. I think I get how crazy-making it is to actually sit down with someone you care about and plead for them to look at something dispassionately. This all sucks. My family is going to suffer.
None of us were ever gonna abandon the Dem nominee.

The fact is that plenty of vulnerable people did not support Trump on any level. It makes me still emotional even if there’s no point to see person after person here say they’re preemptively going to shrug at another Muslim ban, as if literally every MENA person voted for him or abstained. It’s just not true. It’s such an ugly posture to take. I know this won’t change minds but I wish people would stop doing these sorts of fk yous. The internet is real life, right? If you respond to things and say the cruelest sht imaginable doesn’t that speak to who you are, too? That’s not the same behavior as just being disengaged. You can go on sabbatical without hitting the leopard ate my face meme on every thread here til January 2029.

Yes but it is just so rich that once again it's the Dems being chided as cruel - because we are accepting that the person who the majority voted into office is probably going to do the terrible things he's promised to do.

I guess I no longer feel like I need to be the adult in the room for this. People should prepare however they feel best - and are best - able to do so. Dems were decisively voted out. We don't have the power - and that also means we don't have the responsibility. What you are perceiving as cruelty is us coming to grips with our loss - and our lack of power to make things better.

I'll donate to groups that are helping. But I just refuse, refuse, to spend the next four years in resistance mode. I can't do it again. People chose this. They chose it. And now it's going to be bad. And marching and being upset again isn't going to help.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I refuse to let the next 4 years of president Trump and the chaos he brings affect me mentally the way it did 2016-2020. My plan now is to just sit back and watch (sometimes with popcorn) - at least when I feel like tuning in. Since this is a DC based board I assume many of you, like me, understand and have concerns about the democratic norms he upends and the disruption he brings and you do not take our system of government for granted. But at this point it seems the American people - or about half of them - want this disruption.

My state of mind is to focus on what is right in front of me - family, friends and local community. I will watch with detached interest what public administration reforms, to put it lightly, these next 4 years will bring. What I won't do is freak out, get upset, or worry about every outrageous thing he says or does because in a way that is what drives his power. Plus, I don't want to.

Thoughts?

I would recommend buying a MAGA hat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I supported Harris for president but was ready to oppose many of her policies. I have similar issues with Trump. The Dems deserved to go down just as much as Trump. What is fascinating is how they missed so many obvious signs that they never had the mandates they thought they had for several years. The election had been very thing to do with Dem overreach on identity politics and nothing about Trump. Yes, he is a horrible person, but people already knew that. That is how egregious people felt those politics were. Sure, they like Obamacare but they hate being told things like xyz so you must vote Dem otherwise you’re a self hating so and so, or MAGA, or racist, or misogynistic, or whatever.

Voters want balance and that’s why the same district will vote AOC and Trump.

I’m not happy about some things Trump will do, but the Dem meltdowns are entertaining. I will spend the next four years thinking, I told you so. I have very little empathy for people like OP

Why, because she voted for what she believes is the best choice, even if it’s not perfect?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I supported Harris for president but was ready to oppose many of her policies. I have similar issues with Trump. The Dems deserved to go down just as much as Trump. What is fascinating is how they missed so many obvious signs that they never had the mandates they thought they had for several years. The election had been very thing to do with Dem overreach on identity politics and nothing about Trump. Yes, he is a horrible person, but people already knew that. That is how egregious people felt those politics were. Sure, they like Obamacare but they hate being told things like xyz so you must vote Dem otherwise you’re a self hating so and so, or MAGA, or racist, or misogynistic, or whatever.

Voters want balance and that’s why the same district will vote AOC and Trump.

I’m not happy about some things Trump will do, but the Dem meltdowns are entertaining. I will spend the next four years thinking, I told you so. I have very little empathy for people like OP.

This +100

This is partially but only partially where I’m at, too. Tipping me to that - a poster upthread snotted “Sorry?” at someone who noted that not all vulnerable people abandoned Harris, and that s/be voted for Harris. That “Sorry?” is this thread boiled down to a word.

The PP who tried to convince lots of family members to be sane and yet they voted for Trump - I am really sorry. I think I get how crazy-making it is to actually sit down with someone you care about and plead for them to look at something dispassionately. This all sucks. My family is going to suffer.
None of us were ever gonna abandon the Dem nominee.

The fact is that plenty of vulnerable people did not support Trump on any level. It makes me still emotional even if there’s no point to see person after person here say they’re preemptively going to shrug at another Muslim ban, as if literally every MENA person voted for him or abstained. It’s just not true. It’s such an ugly posture to take. I know this won’t change minds but I wish people would stop doing these sorts of fk yous. The internet is real life, right? If you respond to things and say the cruelest sht imaginable doesn’t that speak to who you are, too? That’s not the same behavior as just being disengaged. You can go on sabbatical without hitting the leopard ate my face meme on every thread here til January 2029.

Yes but it is just so rich that once again it's the Dems being chided as cruel - because we are accepting that the person who the majority voted into office is probably going to do the terrible things he's promised to do.

I guess I no longer feel like I need to be the adult in the room for this. People should prepare however they feel best - and are best - able to do so. Dems were decisively voted out. We don't have the power - and that also means we don't have the responsibility. What you are perceiving as cruelty is us coming to grips with our loss - and our lack of power to make things better.

I'll donate to groups that are helping. But I just refuse, refuse, to spend the next four years in resistance mode. I can't do it again. People chose this. They chose it. And now it's going to be bad. And marching and being upset again isn't going to help.

I don't think it helped the first time except to make us feel we were putting our voice out there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I refuse to let the next 4 years of president Trump and the chaos he brings affect me mentally the way it did 2016-2020. My plan now is to just sit back and watch (sometimes with popcorn) - at least when I feel like tuning in. Since this is a DC based board I assume many of you, like me, understand and have concerns about the democratic norms he upends and the disruption he brings and you do not take our system of government for granted. But at this point it seems the American people - or about half of them - want this disruption.

My state of mind is to focus on what is right in front of me - family, friends and local community. I will watch with detached interest what public administration reforms, to put it lightly, these next 4 years will bring. What I won't do is freak out, get upset, or worry about every outrageous thing he says or does because in a way that is what drives his power. Plus, I don't want to.

Thoughts?

I would recommend buying a MAGA hat.

The appeasement begins.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I supported Harris for president but was ready to oppose many of her policies. I have similar issues with Trump. The Dems deserved to go down just as much as Trump. What is fascinating is how they missed so many obvious signs that they never had the mandates they thought they had for several years. The election had been very thing to do with Dem overreach on identity politics and nothing about Trump. Yes, he is a horrible person, but people already knew that. That is how egregious people felt those politics were. Sure, they like Obamacare but they hate being told things like xyz so you must vote Dem otherwise you’re a self hating so and so, or MAGA, or racist, or misogynistic, or whatever.

Voters want balance and that’s why the same district will vote AOC and Trump.

I’m not happy about some things Trump will do, but the Dem meltdowns are entertaining. I will spend the next four years thinking, I told you so. I have very little empathy for people like OP.

This +100

This is partially but only partially where I’m at, too. Tipping me to that - a poster upthread snotted “Sorry?” at someone who noted that not all vulnerable people abandoned Harris, and that s/be voted for Harris. That “Sorry?” is this thread boiled down to a word.

The PP who tried to convince lots of family members to be sane and yet they voted for Trump - I am really sorry. I think I get how crazy-making it is to actually sit down with someone you care about and plead for them to look at something dispassionately. This all sucks. My family is going to suffer.
None of us were ever gonna abandon the Dem nominee.

The fact is that plenty of vulnerable people did not support Trump on any level. It makes me still emotional even if there’s no point to see person after person here say they’re preemptively going to shrug at another Muslim ban, as if literally every MENA person voted for him or abstained. It’s just not true. It’s such an ugly posture to take. I know this won’t change minds but I wish people would stop doing these sorts of fk yous. The internet is real life, right? If you respond to things and say the cruelest sht imaginable doesn’t that speak to who you are, too? That’s not the same behavior as just being disengaged. You can go on sabbatical without hitting the leopard ate my face meme on every thread here til January 2029.

I appreciate what you wrote. I feel similarly to op, with one difference: I'll be detached from the upset and outrage because I remember how protesters were treated the first time. I am concerned for any person or large groups who protest against anything he does. I believe the federal response will be swift and violent. My teens, and most of their friends, are completely uninterested in current politics and I am so relieved.

[Anonymous]

I just hope he doesn't start a war with Russia. we can survive everything else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:AND its started already right?

Those who voted FOR THIS MAN will now complain and blame the Dems for NOT DOING MORE TO STOP IT.

Dems will be villainized once again. I'm over it.
I told my grandma about his plans for SS
I told my cousin who is married to an immigrant about his plans
I told my aunt about the economy
I told my mom about women's health issues

I talked to everyone until i was blue in the face and you know what? THey still voted for him. Facts didn't matter. Truth didn't matter.
Well, now it is all WHAT will we do to reign him in???
I don't know? Nothing? Sorry Margo but this ship has sailed and i am enjoying a pina colada right now. You figure your own shit out.

Because they were not driven by reason.

There are no rational reasons to vote for Trump.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I supported Harris for president but was ready to oppose many of her policies. I have similar issues with Trump. The Dems deserved to go down just as much as Trump. What is fascinating is how they missed so many obvious signs that they never had the mandates they thought they had for several years. The election had been very thing to do with Dem overreach on identity politics and nothing about Trump. Yes, he is a horrible person, but people already knew that. That is how egregious people felt those politics were. Sure, they like Obamacare but they hate being told things like xyz so you must vote Dem otherwise you’re a self hating so and so, or MAGA, or racist, or misogynistic, or whatever.

Voters want balance and that’s why the same district will vote AOC and Trump.

I’m not happy about some things Trump will do, but the Dem meltdowns are entertaining. I will spend the next four years thinking, I told you so. I have very little empathy for people like OP.

But that's OP's point - we aren't having meltdowns. We're over it.

+1 It's weird how many people I know and talk to are all in this same space. It must be some innate thing to our psychology for it to happen in this widespread way.

My friends and family who belong to more vulnerable groups are not in this mental space. And some other people I know - mostly online - are in the full on panic space, doing things like moving their money out of American banks in case Project 2025 takes away the FDIC and/or women's rights to hold their own accounts.

But most people I know, including myself, are not having meltdowns. We're tired and if you want to touch the stove, touch the stove.

Humans are by nature self-protective. If you are demonized for caring and told that you are arrogant and condescending and hateful for doing so and then you are definitively told that your care is not needed or valued, it would be insanity to keep trying. Most of us are not insane. We’ve been told the body politic wants Trump and his cruelty and destruction. So ok. I’m not going out on the heath to yell Lear-like at the gods. Got to take care of yourself and your family now.

Exactly.