My headspace for the next 4 years

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I supported Harris for president but was ready to oppose many of her policies. I have similar issues with Trump. The Dems deserved to go down just as much as Trump. What is fascinating is how they missed so many obvious signs that they never had the mandates they thought they had for several years. The election had been very thing to do with Dem overreach on identity politics and nothing about Trump. Yes, he is a horrible person, but people already knew that. That is how egregious people felt those politics were. Sure, they like Obamacare but they hate being told things like xyz so you must vote Dem otherwise you’re a self hating so and so, or MAGA, or racist, or misogynistic, or whatever.

Voters want balance and that’s why the same district will vote AOC and Trump.

I’m not happy about some things Trump will do, but the Dem meltdowns are entertaining. I will spend the next four years thinking, I told you so. I have very little empathy for people like OP.

This +100

This is partially but only partially where I’m at, too. Tipping me to that - a poster upthread snotted “Sorry?” at someone who noted that not all vulnerable people abandoned Harris, and that s/be voted for Harris. That “Sorry?” is this thread boiled down to a word.

The PP who tried to convince lots of family members to be sane and yet they voted for Trump - I am really sorry. I think I get how crazy-making it is to actually sit down with someone you care about and plead for them to look at something dispassionately. This all sucks. My family is going to suffer.
None of us were ever gonna abandon the Dem nominee.

The fact is that plenty of vulnerable people did not support Trump on any level. It makes me still emotional even if there’s no point to see person after person here say they’re preemptively going to shrug at another Muslim ban, as if literally every MENA person voted for him or abstained. It’s just not true. It’s such an ugly posture to take. I know this won’t change minds but I wish people would stop doing these sorts of fk yous. The internet is real life, right? If you respond to things and say the cruelest sht imaginable doesn’t that speak to who you are, too? That’s not the same behavior as just being disengaged. You can go on sabbatical without hitting the leopard ate my face meme on every thread here til January 2029.

Yes but it is just so rich that once again it's the Dems being chided as cruel - because we are accepting that the person who the majority voted into office is probably going to do the terrible things he's promised to do.

I guess I no longer feel like I need to be the adult in the room for this. People should prepare however they feel best - and are best - able to do so. Dems were decisively voted out. We don't have the power - and that also means we don't have the responsibility. What you are perceiving as cruelty is us coming to grips with our loss - and our lack of power to make things better.

I'll donate to groups that are helping. But I just refuse, refuse, to spend the next four years in resistance mode. I can't do it again. People chose this. They chose it. And now it's going to be bad. And marching and being upset again isn't going to help.

I don't think it helped the first time except to make us feel we were putting our voice out there.

That might be true. And this time, I don't want to give MAGA the pleasure of seeing that, maybe. I don't need humiliation on top of everything else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I supported Harris for president but was ready to oppose many of her policies. I have similar issues with Trump. The Dems deserved to go down just as much as Trump. What is fascinating is how they missed so many obvious signs that they never had the mandates they thought they had for several years. The election had been very thing to do with Dem overreach on identity politics and nothing about Trump. Yes, he is a horrible person, but people already knew that. That is how egregious people felt those politics were. Sure, they like Obamacare but they hate being told things like xyz so you must vote Dem otherwise you’re a self hating so and so, or MAGA, or racist, or misogynistic, or whatever.

Voters want balance and that’s why the same district will vote AOC and Trump.

I’m not happy about some things Trump will do, but the Dem meltdowns are entertaining. I will spend the next four years thinking, I told you so. I have very little empathy for people like OP.

This +100

This is partially but only partially where I’m at, too. Tipping me to that - a poster upthread snotted “Sorry?” at someone who noted that not all vulnerable people abandoned Harris, and that s/be voted for Harris. That “Sorry?” is this thread boiled down to a word.

The PP who tried to convince lots of family members to be sane and yet they voted for Trump - I am really sorry. I think I get how crazy-making it is to actually sit down with someone you care about and plead for them to look at something dispassionately. This all sucks. My family is going to suffer.
None of us were ever gonna abandon the Dem nominee.

The fact is that plenty of vulnerable people did not support Trump on any level. It makes me still emotional even if there’s no point to see person after person here say they’re preemptively going to shrug at another Muslim ban, as if literally every MENA person voted for him or abstained. It’s just not true. It’s such an ugly posture to take. I know this won’t change minds but I wish people would stop doing these sorts of fk yous. The internet is real life, right? If you respond to things and say the cruelest sht imaginable doesn’t that speak to who you are, too? That’s not the same behavior as just being disengaged. You can go on sabbatical without hitting the leopard ate my face meme on every thread here til January 2029.

Yes but it is just so rich that once again it's the Dems being chided as cruel - because we are accepting that the person who the majority voted into office is probably going to do the terrible things he's promised to do.

I guess I no longer feel like I need to be the adult in the room for this. People should prepare however they feel best - and are best - able to do so. Dems were decisively voted out. We don't have the power - and that also means we don't have the responsibility. What you are perceiving as cruelty is us coming to grips with our loss - and our lack of power to make things better.

I'll donate to groups that are helping. But I just refuse, refuse, to spend the next four years in resistance mode. I can't do it again. People chose this. They chose it. And now it's going to be bad. And marching and being upset again isn't going to help.

Yep. Exactly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think this stance is easier if you are not one of the groups who will be impacted by Trump’s policies.

Yes. But the groups who will mostly be impacted voted for him. We were told that we are condescending to try and help, warn, prevent. So. There it is.

Yep. I’ll be protecting the vulnerable people in my immediate family and that’s it. Of course, I will probably have to do it without healthcare and now support my mother too so thanks for that, maga.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I supported Harris for president but was ready to oppose many of her policies. I have similar issues with Trump. The Dems deserved to go down just as much as Trump. What is fascinating is how they missed so many obvious signs that they never had the mandates they thought they had for several years. The election had been very thing to do with Dem overreach on identity politics and nothing about Trump. Yes, he is a horrible person, but people already knew that. That is how egregious people felt those politics were. Sure, they like Obamacare but they hate being told things like xyz so you must vote Dem otherwise you’re a self hating so and so, or MAGA, or racist, or misogynistic, or whatever.

Voters want balance and that’s why the same district will vote AOC and Trump.

I’m not happy about some things Trump will do, but the Dem meltdowns are entertaining. I will spend the next four years thinking, I told you so. I have very little empathy for people like OP.

This +100

This is partially but only partially where I’m at, too. Tipping me to that - a poster upthread snotted “Sorry?” at someone who noted that not all vulnerable people abandoned Harris, and that s/be voted for Harris. That “Sorry?” is this thread boiled down to a word.

The PP who tried to convince lots of family members to be sane and yet they voted for Trump - I am really sorry. I think I get how crazy-making it is to actually sit down with someone you care about and plead for them to look at something dispassionately. This all sucks. My family is going to suffer.
None of us were ever gonna abandon the Dem nominee.

The fact is that plenty of vulnerable people did not support Trump on any level. It makes me still emotional even if there’s no point to see person after person here say they’re preemptively going to shrug at another Muslim ban, as if literally every MENA person voted for him or abstained. It’s just not true. It’s such an ugly posture to take. I know this won’t change minds but I wish people would stop doing these sorts of fk yous. The internet is real life, right? If you respond to things and say the cruelest sht imaginable doesn’t that speak to who you are, too? That’s not the same behavior as just being disengaged. You can go on sabbatical without hitting the leopard ate my face meme on every thread here til January 2029.

Yes but it is just so rich that once again it's the Dems being chided as cruel - because we are accepting that the person who the majority voted into office is probably going to do the terrible things he's promised to do.

I guess I no longer feel like I need to be the adult in the room for this. People should prepare however they feel best - and are best - able to do so. Dems were decisively voted out. We don't have the power - and that also means we don't have the responsibility. What you are perceiving as cruelty is us coming to grips with our loss - and our lack of power to make things better.

I'll donate to groups that are helping. But I just refuse, refuse, to spend the next four years in resistance mode. I can't do it again. People chose this. They chose it. And now it's going to be bad. And marching and being upset again isn't going to help.

I don't think it helped the first time except to make us feel we were putting our voice out there.

That might be true. And this time, I don't want to give MAGA the pleasure of seeing that, maybe. I don't need humiliation on top of everything else.

I don't think it would humiliating, myself. It would just be wasted energy.

Moreover, the more MAGA supporters are posting here and looking for tears, or trying to prod an already dead donkey, or whatever, means the more they are distracted from what they should be doing with this mandate -- fixing problems. I don't understand why they aren't excited as a group to get to work and make things happen, so that people can get real results from the people they voted for -- but I'm certainly not going to provide a distraction.

They have work to do. They need to be focused on that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think this stance is easier if you are not one of the groups who will be impacted by Trump’s policies.

NP - yes, and I'm not.
I will close my friendship groups to include those w similar values only and weed out the trash.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I refuse to let the next 4 years of president Trump and the chaos he brings affect me mentally the way it did 2016-2020. My plan now is to just sit back and watch (sometimes with popcorn) - at least when I feel like tuning in. Since this is a DC based board I assume many of you, like me, understand and have concerns about the democratic norms he upends and the disruption he brings and you do not take our system of government for granted. But at this point it seems the American people - or about half of them - want this disruption.

My state of mind is to focus on what is right in front of me - family, friends and local community. I will watch with detached interest what public administration reforms, to put it lightly, these next 4 years will bring. What I won't do is freak out, get upset, or worry about every outrageous thing he says or does because in a way that is what drives his power. Plus, I don't want to.

Thoughts?

Sitting back is not an effective way to get what you want. I would start to take a look at 2026 and see if there are seats in Congress that can be flipped. How do we get a winning coalition to get out and vote?

That sounds great, but people can't be convinced to ditch Trump and his party, his plan, his goals, none of that -- not by information. Not by activism. Not by offering a better alternative based on either actual accomplishments or good plans. If they could, they would have been, so nope.

This country wants Trump. I'm not going to storm the capitol, or burn ballots, or even cry over it. This is what they want, and that is the rule of the game -- more of them than there are people that don't want it, so this is what's for dinner. Fair enough.

I am going to work on things like justice and fair account on a more local level, and for individuals I can help. But I'm not wasting whatever energy and caring I have left on tilting at windmills. I'll do what I can, conserve my strength, and be ready for when people start to choose something different at the macro level. Until then, I'm not wasting anything on trying change the minds of people who get charged up by that in opposition.

Sorry. Shoot me as the messenger if you want. Not going to get worked up about you, either.

This! It is a cult. 50% voted for it, even the ones who were aware of his plans--they said "my financial side is more important than anything else". The others are part of a cult and bamboozled by whatever lies he tells. They voted for this, now they will get the cuts that he promised--oftentimes to programs that they actually need to survive. So they will struggle.
Except now, there is no one to blame except trump and his congress (R).

[Anonymous]

We all just had to sit and watch a wide open border policy, crime go through the roof, record inflation, attack on common sense. So……

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I refuse to let the next 4 years of president Trump and the chaos he brings affect me mentally the way it did 2016-2020. My plan now is to just sit back and watch (sometimes with popcorn) - at least when I feel like tuning in. Since this is a DC based board I assume many of you, like me, understand and have concerns about the democratic norms he upends and the disruption he brings and you do not take our system of government for granted. But at this point it seems the American people - or about half of them - want this disruption.

My state of mind is to focus on what is right in front of me - family, friends and local community. I will watch with detached interest what public administration reforms, to put it lightly, these next 4 years will bring. What I won't do is freak out, get upset, or worry about every outrageous thing he says or does because in a way that is what drives his power. Plus, I don't want to.

Thoughts?

Sitting back is not an effective way to get what you want. I would start to take a look at 2026 and see if there are seats in Congress that can be flipped. How do we get a winning coalition to get out and vote?

That sounds great, but people can't be convinced to ditch Trump and his party, his plan, his goals, none of that -- not by information. Not by activism. Not by offering a better alternative based on either actual accomplishments or good plans. If they could, they would have been, so nope.

This country wants Trump. I'm not going to storm the capitol, or burn ballots, or even cry over it. This is what they want, and that is the rule of the game -- more of them than there are people that don't want it, so this is what's for dinner. Fair enough.

I am going to work on things like justice and fair account on a more local level, and for individuals I can help. But I'm not wasting whatever energy and caring I have left on tilting at windmills. I'll do what I can, conserve my strength, and be ready for when people start to choose something different at the macro level. Until then, I'm not wasting anything on trying change the minds of people who get charged up by that in opposition.

Sorry. Shoot me as the messenger if you want. Not going to get worked up about you, either.

This! It is a cult. 50% voted for it, even the ones who were aware of his plans--they said "my financial side is more important than anything else". The others are part of a cult and bamboozled by whatever lies he tells. They voted for this, now they will get the cuts that he promised--oftentimes to programs that they actually need to survive. So they will struggle.
Except now, there is no one to blame except trump and his congress (R).

I know. And there's a certain period of rest that comes with that. If I could actually do anything at that level, I'd feel I have to try, but I can't. He holds all three branches for now.

Time to conserve attention, focus, and strength. It's a period of rest from the national stage for Democrats, but not for the GOP. So it goes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I supported Harris for president but was ready to oppose many of her policies. I have similar issues with Trump. The Dems deserved to go down just as much as Trump. What is fascinating is how they missed so many obvious signs that they never had the mandates they thought they had for several years. The election had been very thing to do with Dem overreach on identity politics and nothing about Trump. Yes, he is a horrible person, but people already knew that. That is how egregious people felt those politics were. Sure, they like Obamacare but they hate being told things like xyz so you must vote Dem otherwise you’re a self hating so and so, or MAGA, or racist, or misogynistic, or whatever.

Voters want balance and that’s why the same district will vote AOC and Trump.

I’m not happy about some things Trump will do, but the Dem meltdowns are entertaining. I will spend the next four years thinking, I told you so. I have very little empathy for people like OP.

This +100

This is partially but only partially where I’m at, too. Tipping me to that - a poster upthread snotted “Sorry?” at someone who noted that not all vulnerable people abandoned Harris, and that s/be voted for Harris. That “Sorry?” is this thread boiled down to a word.

The PP who tried to convince lots of family members to be sane and yet they voted for Trump - I am really sorry. I think I get how crazy-making it is to actually sit down with someone you care about and plead for them to look at something dispassionately. This all sucks. My family is going to suffer.
None of us were ever gonna abandon the Dem nominee.

The fact is that plenty of vulnerable people did not support Trump on any level. It makes me still emotional even if there’s no point to see person after person here say they’re preemptively going to shrug at another Muslim ban, as if literally every MENA person voted for him or abstained. It’s just not true. It’s such an ugly posture to take. I know this won’t change minds but I wish people would stop doing these sorts of fk yous. The internet is real life, right? If you respond to things and say the cruelest sht imaginable doesn’t that speak to who you are, too? That’s not the same behavior as just being disengaged. You can go on sabbatical without hitting the leopard ate my face meme on every thread here til January 2029.

Yes but it is just so rich that once again it's the Dems being chided as cruel - because we are accepting that the person who the majority voted into office is probably going to do the terrible things he's promised to do.

I guess I no longer feel like I need to be the adult in the room for this. People should prepare however they feel best - and are best - able to do so. Dems were decisively voted out. We don't have the power - and that also means we don't have the responsibility. What you are perceiving as cruelty is us coming to grips with our loss - and our lack of power to make things better.

I'll donate to groups that are helping. But I just refuse, refuse, to spend the next four years in resistance mode. I can't do it again. People chose this. They chose it. And now it's going to be bad. And marching and being upset again isn't going to help.

I don't think it helped the first time except to make us feel we were putting our voice out there.

That might be true. And this time, I don't want to give MAGA the pleasure of seeing that, maybe. I don't need humiliation on top of everything else.

I don't think it would humiliating, myself. It would just be wasted energy.

Moreover, the more MAGA supporters are posting here and looking for tears, or trying to prod an already dead donkey, or whatever, means the more they are distracted from what they should be doing with this mandate -- fixing problems. I don't understand why they aren't excited as a group to get to work and make things happen, so that people can get real results from the people they voted for -- but I'm certainly not going to provide a distraction.

They have work to do. They need to be focused on that.

They'll do it when they want to. Or they won't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We all just had to sit and watch a wide open border policy, crime go through the roof, record inflation, attack on common sense. So……

Okay. Time to fix all that. Hop to it and hit the ground running, I guess. People expect results when you hold all the strings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I refuse to let the next 4 years of president Trump and the chaos he brings affect me mentally the way it did 2016-2020. My plan now is to just sit back and watch (sometimes with popcorn) - at least when I feel like tuning in. Since this is a DC based board I assume many of you, like me, understand and have concerns about the democratic norms he upends and the disruption he brings and you do not take our system of government for granted. But at this point it seems the American people - or about half of them - want this disruption.

My state of mind is to focus on what is right in front of me - family, friends and local community. I will watch with detached interest what public administration reforms, to put it lightly, these next 4 years will bring. What I won't do is freak out, get upset, or worry about every outrageous thing he says or does because in a way that is what drives his power. Plus, I don't want to.

Thoughts?

Sitting back is not an effective way to get what you want. I would start to take a look at 2026 and see if there are seats in Congress that can be flipped. How do we get a winning coalition to get out and vote?

That sounds great, but people can't be convinced to ditch Trump and his party, his plan, his goals, none of that -- not by information. Not by activism. Not by offering a better alternative based on either actual accomplishments or good plans. If they could, they would have been, so nope.

This country wants Trump. I'm not going to storm the capitol, or burn ballots, or even cry over it. This is what they want, and that is the rule of the game -- more of them than there are people that don't want it, so this is what's for dinner. Fair enough.

I am going to work on things like justice and fair account on a more local level, and for individuals I can help. But I'm not wasting whatever energy and caring I have left on tilting at windmills. I'll do what I can, conserve my strength, and be ready for when people start to choose something different at the macro level. Until then, I'm not wasting anything on trying change the minds of people who get charged up by that in opposition.

Sorry. Shoot me as the messenger if you want. Not going to get worked up about you, either.

This! It is a cult. 50% voted for it, even the ones who were aware of his plans--they said "my financial side is more important than anything else". The others are part of a cult and bamboozled by whatever lies he tells. They voted for this, now they will get the cuts that he promised--oftentimes to programs that they actually need to survive. So they will struggle.
Except now, there is no one to blame except trump and his congress (R).

Just under 50%, it looks like

Not to split hairs. They won, either way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I supported Harris for president but was ready to oppose many of her policies. I have similar issues with Trump. The Dems deserved to go down just as much as Trump. What is fascinating is how they missed so many obvious signs that they never had the mandates they thought they had for several years. The election had been very thing to do with Dem overreach on identity politics and nothing about Trump. Yes, he is a horrible person, but people already knew that. That is how egregious people felt those politics were. Sure, they like Obamacare but they hate being told things like xyz so you must vote Dem otherwise you’re a self hating so and so, or MAGA, or racist, or misogynistic, or whatever.

Voters want balance and that’s why the same district will vote AOC and Trump.

I’m not happy about some things Trump will do, but the Dem meltdowns are entertaining. I will spend the next four years thinking, I told you so. I have very little empathy for people like OP.

This +100

This is partially but only partially where I’m at, too. Tipping me to that - a poster upthread snotted “Sorry?” at someone who noted that not all vulnerable people abandoned Harris, and that s/be voted for Harris. That “Sorry?” is this thread boiled down to a word.

The PP who tried to convince lots of family members to be sane and yet they voted for Trump - I am really sorry. I think I get how crazy-making it is to actually sit down with someone you care about and plead for them to look at something dispassionately. This all sucks. My family is going to suffer.
None of us were ever gonna abandon the Dem nominee.

The fact is that plenty of vulnerable people did not support Trump on any level. It makes me still emotional even if there’s no point to see person after person here say they’re preemptively going to shrug at another Muslim ban, as if literally every MENA person voted for him or abstained. It’s just not true. It’s such an ugly posture to take. I know this won’t change minds but I wish people would stop doing these sorts of fk yous. The internet is real life, right? If you respond to things and say the cruelest sht imaginable doesn’t that speak to who you are, too? That’s not the same behavior as just being disengaged. You can go on sabbatical without hitting the leopard ate my face meme on every thread here til January 2029.

Yes but it is just so rich that once again it's the Dems being chided as cruel - because we are accepting that the person who the majority voted into office is probably going to do the terrible things he's promised to do.

I guess I no longer feel like I need to be the adult in the room for this. People should prepare however they feel best - and are best - able to do so. Dems were decisively voted out. We don't have the power - and that also means we don't have the responsibility. What you are perceiving as cruelty is us coming to grips with our loss - and our lack of power to make things better.

I'll donate to groups that are helping. But I just refuse, refuse, to spend the next four years in resistance mode. I can't do it again. People chose this. They chose it. And now it's going to be bad. And marching and being upset again isn't going to help.

I don't think it helped the first time except to make us feel we were putting our voice out there.

That might be true. And this time, I don't want to give MAGA the pleasure of seeing that, maybe. I don't need humiliation on top of everything else.

I don't think it would humiliating, myself. It would just be wasted energy.

Moreover, the more MAGA supporters are posting here and looking for tears, or trying to prod an already dead donkey, or whatever, means the more they are distracted from what they should be doing with this mandate -- fixing problems. I don't understand why they aren't excited as a group to get to work and make things happen, so that people can get real results from the people they voted for -- but I'm certainly not going to provide a distraction.

They have work to do. They need to be focused on that.

They'll do it when they want to. Or they won't.

Can't do much about that, you know?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We all just had to sit and watch a wide open border policy, crime go through the roof, record inflation, attack on common sense. So……

So get to work!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We all just had to sit and watch a wide open border policy, crime go through the roof, record inflation, attack on common sense. So……

Now you can fix it, prontissimo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We all just had to sit and watch a wide open border policy, crime go through the roof, record inflation, attack on common sense. So……

So get to work!

This!