Time for reflection as a dem?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If I’m being honest, I think the trans issue is killing democrats. There was an effective ad in PA about Kamala bragging about getting trans surgeries for inmates when she was AG.

People should be ok if someone wants to have a trans surgery or identify as trans.

But don’t keep pushing it on and on. The issue with allowing teachers to discuss transitioning with students without parental involvement was way over the line

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trumps win is a resounding one, no question about the results and the majority of voters. Is it time for dems to have a moment of reflection and time to stop pushing so hard to the left??

What do you consider to be too far left? Specific examples please as I don’t see the extremism you speak of.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Don't overthink it. People *hate* inflation, and virtually everything else is an abstract. It doesn't matter that the Biden admin had relatively little to do with the inflation, that we had a soft landing, or that we have fared better than basically any other advanced economy. Those are all abstract ideas to voters too. It doesn't even matter that the rate of inflation has been nearly back to normal for a year. People simply hate inflation and want to punish politicians for it, the end.

Yep.
Plus good old fashioned racism and sexism.

+1000. people don't care about trans surgery for inmates when they have $ in the bank. Sadly they will have less of it now but they got what they asked for. How about dems do a study over the next four years on what Trump "improves" in all of the rural counties and then play the results in 2028 ads? If we have an election that is.

[Anonymous]

I hope too that the Ds evaluate their texting fundraising campaigns. I was besieged with money grubbing appeals up to 10pm last night. Honestly, a real turnoff!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trumps win is a resounding one, no question about the results and the majority of voters. Is it time for dems to have a moment of reflection and time to stop pushing so hard to the left??

Or is it time we accept that US is fundamentally misogynistic and don’t float female candidates for president?

When Hilary ran, it was an eye opener for me - I thought however bad racism is here, the sexism is much worse. Now we have a president elect who is a convicted rapist and on video tape as saying he routinely sexually assaults women he finds attractive. He refers to female opponents in highly vulgar and vicious ways.

Now half of US states don’t have basic human reproductive rights. Maybe we do have to stop worrying about women in those states if they reelect the guy who orchestrated this fate for the .

Maybe Dems need to learn to suck up More to Billionaires in Big Tech?

I agree with you that Dems need to learn from this election but don’t think their agenda was particularly extreme.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s the trans stuff that turns off older Dem voters.

I'm an older Den voter who doesn't agree with the trans stuff, but I still vote Dem.

Agree - that isn't even on my radar and I'm pretty sure for Dems overall that isn't their first concern or top issue. It only seemed that way because it was amplified by the right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hope too that the Ds evaluate their texting fundraising campaigns. I was besieged with money grubbing appeals up to 10pm last night. Honestly, a real turnoff!!

its true but it never affected my vote

[Anonymous]

First thing:

DO NOT RUN PETE BUTTIGIEG.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:First thing:

DO NOT RUN PETE BUTTIGIEG.

sadly this is true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trumps win is a resounding one, no question about the results and the majority of voters. Is it time for dems to have a moment of reflection and time to stop pushing so hard to the left??

Or is it time we accept that US is fundamentally misogynistic and don’t float female candidates for president?

When Hilary ran, it was an eye opener for me - I thought however bad racism is here, the sexism is much worse. Now we have a president elect who is a convicted rapist and on video tape as saying he routinely sexually assaults women he finds attractive. He refers to female opponents in highly vulgar and vicious ways.

Now half of US states don’t have basic human reproductive rights. Maybe we do have to stop worrying about women in those states if they reelect the guy who orchestrated this fate for the .

Maybe Dems need to learn to suck up More to Billionaires in Big Tech?

I agree with you that Dems need to learn from this election but don’t think their agenda was particularly extreme.

And focus on the economy. The economy grew three times faster under Biden than under Trump but that was not emphasized in the one presidential debate or campaign trail.

[Anonymous]

Chris Matthew’s went on Morning Joe.

Simple,
Democrats missed the main issues. People are pissed at illegal immigration, people see all govt. spending and that raises inflation.


Progressive era needs to be over if they want to win next election. Need more moderate Dem

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope too that the Ds evaluate their texting fundraising campaigns. I was besieged with money grubbing appeals up to 10pm last night. Honestly, a real turnoff!!

its true but it never affected my vote

NP- I got sometimes up to 10 texts a day. I voted for Harris but I would be very surprised if some people didn't get so turned off they stayed home. It was at the level of harassment, really low blow messages to incite panic. I never donated because of it and I donated in 2020 and 2016.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If I’m being honest, I think the trans issue is killing democrats. There was an effective ad in PA about Kamala bragging about getting trans surgeries for inmates when she was AG.

People should be ok if someone wants to have a trans surgery or identify as trans.

But don’t keep pushing it on and on. The issue with allowing teachers to discuss transitioning with students without parental involvement was way over the line

+1

Dems don't realize how many people are turned off by identity politics in general.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No. Democrats aren’t too far left. The country is too fundamentally divided and I believe that I have nothing in common with the people who voted for Trump. They deserve what they get. Let’s stop pretending that this should be one country. I will never compromised on public health, civil rights, education, abortion, or the separation of church and state.

We (MAGA) feel the same way. We do not share the same values. The best that we can hope for is to be united behind the pursuit of money, and that isn't a recipe for a successful society. Happy to entertain proposals to divide the nation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lot of split ticket voters in NC too with the Gov. race. I really do think it’s illegal immigration and perhaps immigration in general? Not necessarily the “people going through the process to legally move to and become citizens of the US” immigration but the “temporary” status for Haitians and refugees. People don’t like it across the political spectrum. It’s unpopular. It feels like giving handouts to foreigners who don’t even necessarily want to stay in the US and are taking up resources in our public schools and housing. There’s room for Democrats to be tough on the border and tighten up some of the legal immigration too, Obama was fairly tough in this respect especially in his first term and immigration was never a top concern during his presidency. Granted we had a lot of other things to worry about back then like not sliding into an economic depression after the mortgage crisis.

You have a short memory. Why do you think this was Trump's lead issue in 2016?