Time for reflection as a dem?

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Anonymous wrote:The misinformation some of you keep missing is HOW and WHY prices got high and WHAT Biden’s administration has done about it, how inflation has decreased and how well we recovered compared to other countries.

Trumpers, and some dems here, apparently, seem to think Biden had a magic wand he didn’t use and he just likes inflation.

Oh for Pete’s sakes. Ridiculous take.

Please continue down this path if you want to keep losing.

You sound like an entitled child with no understanding of how the world works.

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Anonymous wrote:So it sounds like there’s consensus here among the Dems. They lost because of “egg prices” and misinformation of dumb voters. No reevaluation of policy necessary, they will count on a weak economy and run someone like Buttigieg in 2028.

As a conservative, I’m feeling better than ever after reading this thread!

You THINK they need to re-evaluate their policies because you THINK their top priorities are junk like promoting boys in girls sports and bathrooms and flooding the country with illegals. And that's where you're misinformed.

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I provided data for my views, where’s yours besides a lost election?

"you THINK their top priorities are junk like promoting boys in girls sports and bathrooms and flooding the country with illegals. And that's where you're misinformed."

You haven't addressed that.

I provided the polling to show what the voters were making their choices on based off four years of Biden-Harris in action.

No, these are clearly opinions skewed by misinformation:

"that inflation was too high"
"debt rose too much"
"Harris was too focused on cultural issues rather than helping the middle class"

I am fascinated by the fact you think that “inflation was too high” is something skewed by misinformation. You obviously don’t watch what you spend at all. Most voters do, though. Many people have literal grocery receipts from 2021. I have order histories in my apps that let me compare exactly what the same basket of groceries cost, because I have been buying the same stuff, and I don’t watch costs closely.

You seem shockingly out of touch, bizarrely so.

It happened. But inflation was back down to normal levels for months before the election. Prices remained high, but that’s not inflation. It takes a very bad economy for prices to actually go down (deflation).

And there were a lot of factors that led to price increases. Inflation was a worldwide phenomena related to the pandemic and recovery. They started to climb way back when Trump was president. The US economy has recovered much better than in many other countries.

Pushing about the price of eggs was blatant misinformation - the bird flu caused a huge jump in prices.

Believing that Trump can do anything about higher prices is foolish. I mean, I guess he couple collapse the economy but that doesn’t seem like the best outcome for most Americans.

I literally have receipts comparing my 2021 egg purchases to last weekend’s purchases. What sort of gaslighting game are you pushing here anyhow?

What point are you trying to make?

That the people claiming that inflation and worries about inflation are “misinformation” are gaslighting. It’s not just eggs that are much higher, it’s groceries across the board. And people who shop for their families have the hard receipts to prove it.

What is clear from this thread is that very few DCUM Democratic evangelicals do their own grocery shopping. That’s fine, but it means they are sealed in a bubble as to how grocery prices are affecting people, and also inclined to believe the facially outrageous claim that concerns about inflation are somehow “misinformation.”

Inflation is down. Prices are permanently up. These are two different things.

Dear God, why on earth do you think that matters? You can split hairs all you like but telling people that they’re wrong because ACTUALLY it’s not inflation, it’s just higher prices so they should be just fine is not exactly a compelling message.

No one says it's "just fine". People are explaining why it happened and what will happen moving forward. Trump voters obviously don't understand the situation. They just listed to RW propaganda blaming Biden and saying that Trump can fix it.

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[Anonymous]

"Laken Rileys Killer never stood a chance"
-MSNBC.


Yeah you all need to reflect.

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Anonymous wrote:So it sounds like there’s consensus here among the Dems. They lost because of “egg prices” and misinformation of dumb voters. No reevaluation of policy necessary, they will count on a weak economy and run someone like Buttigieg in 2028.

As a conservative, I’m feeling better than ever after reading this thread!

You THINK they need to re-evaluate their policies because you THINK their top priorities are junk like promoting boys in girls sports and bathrooms and flooding the country with illegals. And that's where you're misinformed.

10000%

I provided data for my views, where’s yours besides a lost election?

"you THINK their top priorities are junk like promoting boys in girls sports and bathrooms and flooding the country with illegals. And that's where you're misinformed."

You haven't addressed that.

I provided the polling to show what the voters were making their choices on based off four years of Biden-Harris in action.

No, these are clearly opinions skewed by misinformation:

"that inflation was too high"
"debt rose too much"
"Harris was too focused on cultural issues rather than helping the middle class"

I am fascinated by the fact you think that “inflation was too high” is something skewed by misinformation. You obviously don’t watch what you spend at all. Most voters do, though. Many people have literal grocery receipts from 2021. I have order histories in my apps that let me compare exactly what the same basket of groceries cost, because I have been buying the same stuff, and I don’t watch costs closely.

You seem shockingly out of touch, bizarrely so.

It happened. But inflation was back down to normal levels for months before the election. Prices remained high, but that’s not inflation. It takes a very bad economy for prices to actually go down (deflation).

And there were a lot of factors that led to price increases. Inflation was a worldwide phenomena related to the pandemic and recovery. They started to climb way back when Trump was president. The US economy has recovered much better than in many other countries.

Pushing about the price of eggs was blatant misinformation - the bird flu caused a huge jump in prices.

Believing that Trump can do anything about higher prices is foolish. I mean, I guess he couple collapse the economy but that doesn’t seem like the best outcome for most Americans.

I literally have receipts comparing my 2021 egg purchases to last weekend’s purchases. What sort of gaslighting game are you pushing here anyhow?

What point are you trying to make?

That the people claiming that inflation and worries about inflation are “misinformation” are gaslighting. It’s not just eggs that are much higher, it’s groceries across the board. And people who shop for their families have the hard receipts to prove it.

What is clear from this thread is that very few DCUM Democratic evangelicals do their own grocery shopping. That’s fine, but it means they are sealed in a bubble as to how grocery prices are affecting people, and also inclined to believe the facially outrageous claim that concerns about inflation are somehow “misinformation.”

So the companies producing all these products shouldn’t be held accountable at all?

Uh, what sort of weirdo non-sequitor is this? Tell me, how did you get from point A to point B here?

what?! Have you ever asked yourself what kind of profits these companies are making? The CEO and other executives? The government doesn’t set the prices.

You seem to be clumsily saying that people should be ignoring high prices in the voting booth because you don’t think those high prices are important, Democrats shouldn’t care about high prices politically, high grocery prices are “misinformation”, and people should have voted for Harris anyhow because some unnamed, anonymous executives out there are making profits they shouldn’t have? Is that what you are driving at?

Goodness. No wonder the Democrats lost so handily.

Your completely off-base post is a great demonstration of why Ds lost.

Literally no one is disputing that prices are high. A big part of why they are high is because businesses chose to capitalize on the supply chain issues/shortages and jacked up prices because people were willing to pay more. Their costs didn't go up that much. That's why businesses have record profits right now.

https://www.removepaywall.com/search?url=http...ndi/#google_vignette

"The last quarter was the most profitable of the year, and one of the best ever for corporate America."

"Frustrations about pricing at the grocery store and the gas pump have especially acute effects on people’s feelings about the economy, and even more so when the companies that make their food seem to be raking it in, as several reports have found. "

"The ripple effects of American consumers’ hearty appetite for spending are felt across the economy, Zandi says. “It also helps explain the record stock market, and the resulting positive wealth effects and resilient consumer spending,” he wrote on X. "

"“The gangbuster gain in profits helps explain why businesses have been able and willing to hold the line on layoffs, which was key to avoiding recession,”"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"Laken Rileys Killer never stood a chance"
-MSNBC.


Yeah you all need to reflect.

I will reflect on why we have a gun epidemic in this country and why R’s do nothing to stop it, if anything it is encouraged. I wish the Rs showed as much empathy for children killed in their classrooms as they did for this one person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"Laken Rileys Killer never stood a chance"
-MSNBC.


Yeah you all need to reflect.

No idea what this means out of context.

Democrats wanted to fund the system that would have vetted him faster and kicked him out. Republicans didn’t- because Trump told them not to pass anything so he could campaign on it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The misinformation some of you keep missing is HOW and WHY prices got high and WHAT Biden’s administration has done about it, how inflation has decreased and how well we recovered compared to other countries.

Trumpers, and some dems here, apparently, seem to think Biden had a magic wand he didn’t use and he just likes inflation.

Exactly

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Anonymous wrote:Yes Democrats, run on the “Americans are stupid” platform.

That wouldn't be the platform, stupid.

It just means that Ds shouldn't assume any level of critical thinking when they come up with messaging going forward.

And they need to embed and astroturf just as the Rs have.

I’m stupid, voters are stupid, everyone but you is stupid.

I think there many now and eventually many more of the 155 million people that were duped into voting for Trump and Biden in 2020 looking back thinking how "stupid" they were for voting for unfit people.

For 2024 Trump voters, "stupid" is magnified a little more. Trump had the job previously. While on the job and carrying the title "Commander-in-Chief", he went AWOL for three hours, refusing to take calls, make calls, or respond to pleas for help in any way while a mob of hundreds had breached security at The US Capitol Building and had chased congress and many other prominent US leaders from The House floor to the basement while looking for people to hang. Your POTUS, Commander-in-Chief, ignored the primary purpose of a Commander-in-Chief for THREE fricking hours during that moment. This was confirmed by testimony under oath from Trump's children and closest staff members.

I'd love to hear a counter argument from a Trump voter as to how it makes sense to cast a vote for previous POTUS that did what Trump did in that moment. There is no argument. Just stupidity and they know it.

No, it’s that Harris was simply THAT bad of an alternative option.

In the grand scheme of things, Harris and bad or no policies is better than Trump with his zero integrity. Are undocumented immigrants or expensive eggs still going to be your biggest concern when your Coward-in-Chief is AWOL as paratroopers of a foreign adversary are landing on your roof?

Paratroopers of a foreign adversary? Wtf?

This is why the dems fail. What you just said is like Chinese to the average American.

[Anonymous]

Trump: “an invasion of millions and millions of illegals migrants, some from jails and mental institutions” “men in women’s clothing and wigs in bathrooms and locker rooms with your girls”.

Democrats: “Putin, Putin, Putin”. Russia, Russia russia. He’s coming to get us thanks to Trump. He’s going to hack the power grid and the voting machines. He knows if you’re naughty or nice.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The misinformation some of you keep missing is HOW and WHY prices got high and WHAT Biden’s administration has done about it, how inflation has decreased and how well we recovered compared to other countries.

Trumpers, and some dems here, apparently, seem to think Biden had a magic wand he didn’t use and he just likes inflation.

Oh for Pete’s sakes. Ridiculous take.

Please continue down this path if you want to keep losing.

You sound like an entitled child with no understanding of how the world works.

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I would bet a large chunk of Americans don’t know who Putin even is. The largest problem Dems have is the messaging.

Trump speaks in a way any average working person can understand. Dems speak like everyone understands what the hell they’re talking about.

Trust me, many people are so clueless. They don’t even get what a pronoun means and why they have to announce it.

Dems are operating in a major elitist bubble and litigating first world problems that nobody outside of the bubble cares about.

The average American doesn’t care about half of the things the Dems fuss about and don’t know what the hell a green new deal means

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"Laken Rileys Killer never stood a chance"
-MSNBC.


Yeah you all need to reflect.

No idea what this means out of context.

Democrats wanted to fund the system that would have vetted him faster and kicked him out. Republicans didn’t- because Trump told them not to pass anything so he could campaign on it.

No, ya didn't. The bill was bogus, did not help nor protect citizens.

[Anonymous]

I haven’t seen any Dem say in layman’s terms why Trump is so evil and why he’s a criminal in a way average Americans can understand.

The most googled word during the first Trump administration was “collusion”.

Remember Russian “collusion”?

Instead of spending time explaining policies, the Dems spent time on failed legal expeditions

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Anonymous wrote:So it sounds like there’s consensus here among the Dems. They lost because of “egg prices” and misinformation of dumb voters. No reevaluation of policy necessary, they will count on a weak economy and run someone like Buttigieg in 2028.

As a conservative, I’m feeling better than ever after reading this thread!

You THINK they need to re-evaluate their policies because you THINK their top priorities are junk like promoting boys in girls sports and bathrooms and flooding the country with illegals. And that's where you're misinformed.

10000%

I provided data for my views, where’s yours besides a lost election?

"you THINK their top priorities are junk like promoting boys in girls sports and bathrooms and flooding the country with illegals. And that's where you're misinformed."

You haven't addressed that.

I provided the polling to show what the voters were making their choices on based off four years of Biden-Harris in action.

No, these are clearly opinions skewed by misinformation:

"that inflation was too high"
"debt rose too much"
"Harris was too focused on cultural issues rather than helping the middle class"

I am fascinated by the fact you think that “inflation was too high” is something skewed by misinformation. You obviously don’t watch what you spend at all. Most voters do, though. Many people have literal grocery receipts from 2021. I have order histories in my apps that let me compare exactly what the same basket of groceries cost, because I have been buying the same stuff, and I don’t watch costs closely.

You seem shockingly out of touch, bizarrely so.

It happened. But inflation was back down to normal levels for months before the election. Prices remained high, but that’s not inflation. It takes a very bad economy for prices to actually go down (deflation).

And there were a lot of factors that led to price increases. Inflation was a worldwide phenomena related to the pandemic and recovery. They started to climb way back when Trump was president. The US economy has recovered much better than in many other countries.

Pushing about the price of eggs was blatant misinformation - the bird flu caused a huge jump in prices.

Believing that Trump can do anything about higher prices is foolish. I mean, I guess he couple collapse the economy but that doesn’t seem like the best outcome for most Americans.

I literally have receipts comparing my 2021 egg purchases to last weekend’s purchases. What sort of gaslighting game are you pushing here anyhow?

What point are you trying to make?

That the people claiming that inflation and worries about inflation are “misinformation” are gaslighting. It’s not just eggs that are much higher, it’s groceries across the board. And people who shop for their families have the hard receipts to prove it.

What is clear from this thread is that very few DCUM Democratic evangelicals do their own grocery shopping. That’s fine, but it means they are sealed in a bubble as to how grocery prices are affecting people, and also inclined to believe the facially outrageous claim that concerns about inflation are somehow “misinformation.”

Inflation is down. Prices are permanently up. These are two different things.

+1 I just read that historically our inflation isn’t that high. The issue is price gouging, which Kamala said she wanted to address. But, it’s already going up with the promise of tariffs. Some small companies may go out of business, but these large corps will jack up prices because they can. As we just saw, the voting public doesn’t understand economics, so they’ll blame someone else instead of the CEOs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Laken Rileys Killer never stood a chance"
-MSNBC.


Yeah you all need to reflect.

I will reflect on why we have a gun epidemic in this country and why R’s do nothing to stop it, if anything it is encouraged. I wish the Rs showed as much empathy for children killed in their classrooms as they did for this one person.

Yeah, blame guns, never the criminal. Always the guns, always the guns. They are GUN FREE zones, ya dummy. That gun didn't walk in and start going off. You will never convince law abiding citizens of your sill outlook on gun ownership.