Time for reflection as a dem?

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Anonymous wrote:The primary issue for the Democratic Party is that it broadly tells the truth and doesn’t stoke fear.

Trump lies constantly about everything and inexplicably his supporters don’t care and don’t expect him to have any policy ideas whatsoever.

Trump traffics in playing on people’s fear about the future and encourages them to place the blame on the “other”. He also has made it acceptable to be uncivilized.

It’s difficult to be realistic and polite and gain votes.

I’m an actual registered Democrat and I think the bolded is outright delusional.

Ditto. For instance. "We must save our Democracy(TM). - The DNC

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Brian Williams quickly summarizes why the Dems lost and what needs to change. He uses specifics and brilliantly sums it up by saying how the Dems lost the working class by becoming the party of quinoa while voters are eating Cracker Barrel. He brings receipts.

I hope the party listens.

They're not going to listen. Sigh.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes Democrats, run on the “Americans are stupid” platform.

That wouldn't be the platform, stupid.

It just means that Ds shouldn't assume any level of critical thinking when they come up with messaging going forward.

And they need to embed and astroturf just as the Rs have.

I’m stupid, voters are stupid, everyone but you is stupid.

I think there many now and eventually many more of the 155 million people that were duped into voting for Trump and Biden in 2020 looking back thinking how "stupid" they were for voting for unfit people.

For 2024 Trump voters, "stupid" is magnified a little more. Trump had the job previously. While on the job and carrying the title "Commander-in-Chief", he went AWOL for three hours, refusing to take calls, make calls, or respond to pleas for help in any way while a mob of hundreds had breached security at The US Capitol Building and had chased congress and many other prominent US leaders from The House floor to the basement while looking for people to hang. Your POTUS, Commander-in-Chief, ignored the primary purpose of a Commander-in-Chief for THREE fricking hours during that moment. This was confirmed by testimony under oath from Trump's children and closest staff members.

I'd love to hear a counter argument from a Trump voter as to how it makes sense to cast a vote for previous POTUS that did what Trump did in that moment. There is no argument. Just stupidity and they know it. I totally get not voting for Biden or Harris but to cast a vote for someone who performed cowardly in that way the one time he had a chance to act as C-i-C during his first term is beyond stupid.

No way in heck is what you say in the PP true. No president would ever ignore their job in a moment like that. Stop lying.

Trump launched an attack on the capitol and congress.
He sat back and watched it burn, and did nothing.

Whether or not Trump technically "launched" an attack on Congress is subject to debate but there is no debating whether or not he abandoned his job and country for three hours while the sovereignty of our country was under attack.

Why should the POTUS have to defend our government and the sovereignty of our country? Isn't that the military's job? Trump did nothing wrong and most of those people that stormed the Capitol probably didn't have bad intentions. Get over it.

This is a very poor quality attempt at trolling.

POTUS does in fact have a responsibility to protect the nation and uphold the constitution, and swears an oath to do so. And if someone were to smash their way into your house, call for you to be hanged, ransack your living room, smear poop on the wall, steal your laptop and other things, you'd sit back and say "that's all fine, they aren't doing anything wrong?"

Good grief, PP. Reconsider your poor life choices that got you here and understand you are doing very poorly with your posts here.

Well, when you put it that way, I guess Trump should have done something. Hopefully he'll make up for that lapse in judgement by reducing the cost of eggs. I ain't paying $3.99 a dozen much longer!!

Do you actually even do the shopping in your home? Doesn't seem like it. The $4 eggs thing was a year ago and had a lot more to do with bird flu and flocks having to be destroyed than it did with Biden. That's a fact. If your vote was based on "eggs are too expensive" then it was based on info that was a.) outdated and b.) misguided and misinformed.

But I guess you can go on believing your misinformation - but what are you going to do when prices don't come down significantly now that Trump has been elected? Still blame Biden? That isn't going to work for you or anyone else. At some point you're going to have to accept some realities about what you voted for and what Trump fails to deliver.

I’m in California and I just paid $7.99 for a dozen eggs yesterday. Can you tell me how the price I paid is “misinformation”?

organic? cage free? I see that at Whole foods too. You don’t have to buy the most expensive one available!

NP and prices are expensive either way. I grocery shop at Walmart. Yes, Walmart. Most of DCUM won’t buy anything there. I was shocked to see my bill today to get the basics for Thanksgiving and buying generic whenever possible. I can see my price history on the app and prices are way up from prior years.

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Anonymous wrote:So it sounds like there’s consensus here among the Dems. They lost because of “egg prices” and misinformation of dumb voters. No reevaluation of policy necessary, they will count on a weak economy and run someone like Buttigieg in 2028.

As a conservative, I’m feeling better than ever after reading this thread!

You THINK they need to re-evaluate their policies because you THINK their top priorities are junk like promoting boys in girls sports and bathrooms and flooding the country with illegals. And that's where you're misinformed.

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I provided data for my views, where’s yours besides a lost election?

"you THINK their top priorities are junk like promoting boys in girls sports and bathrooms and flooding the country with illegals. And that's where you're misinformed."

You haven't addressed that.

I provided the polling to show what the voters were making their choices on based off four years of Biden-Harris in action.

No, these are clearly opinions skewed by misinformation:

"that inflation was too high"
"debt rose too much"
"Harris was too focused on cultural issues rather than helping the middle class"

I am fascinated by the fact you think that “inflation was too high” is something skewed by misinformation. You obviously don’t watch what you spend at all. Most voters do, though. Many people have literal grocery receipts from 2021. I have order histories in my apps that let me compare exactly what the same basket of groceries cost, because I have been buying the same stuff, and I don’t watch costs closely.

You seem shockingly out of touch, bizarrely so.

It happened. But inflation was back down to normal levels for months before the election. Prices remained high, but that’s not inflation. It takes a very bad economy for prices to actually go down (deflation).

And there were a lot of factors that led to price increases. Inflation was a worldwide phenomena related to the pandemic and recovery. They started to climb way back when Trump was president. The US economy has recovered much better than in many other countries.

Pushing about the price of eggs was blatant misinformation - the bird flu caused a huge jump in prices.

Believing that Trump can do anything about higher prices is foolish. I mean, I guess he couple collapse the economy but that doesn’t seem like the best outcome for most Americans.

I literally have receipts comparing my 2021 egg purchases to last weekend’s purchases. What sort of gaslighting game are you pushing here anyhow?

What point are you trying to make?

That the people claiming that inflation and worries about inflation are “misinformation” are gaslighting. It’s not just eggs that are much higher, it’s groceries across the board. And people who shop for their families have the hard receipts to prove it.

What is clear from this thread is that very few DCUM Democratic evangelicals do their own grocery shopping. That’s fine, but it means they are sealed in a bubble as to how grocery prices are affecting people, and also inclined to believe the facially outrageous claim that concerns about inflation are somehow “misinformation.”

So the companies producing all these products shouldn’t be held accountable at all?

Uh, what sort of weirdo non-sequitor is this? Tell me, how did you get from point A to point B here?

what?! Have you ever asked yourself what kind of profits these companies are making? The CEO and other executives? The government doesn’t set the prices.

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Anonymous wrote:So it sounds like there’s consensus here among the Dems. They lost because of “egg prices” and misinformation of dumb voters. No reevaluation of policy necessary, they will count on a weak economy and run someone like Buttigieg in 2028.

As a conservative, I’m feeling better than ever after reading this thread!

You THINK they need to re-evaluate their policies because you THINK their top priorities are junk like promoting boys in girls sports and bathrooms and flooding the country with illegals. And that's where you're misinformed.

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I provided data for my views, where’s yours besides a lost election?

"you THINK their top priorities are junk like promoting boys in girls sports and bathrooms and flooding the country with illegals. And that's where you're misinformed."

You haven't addressed that.

I provided the polling to show what the voters were making their choices on based off four years of Biden-Harris in action.

No, these are clearly opinions skewed by misinformation:

"that inflation was too high"
"debt rose too much"
"Harris was too focused on cultural issues rather than helping the middle class"

I am fascinated by the fact you think that “inflation was too high” is something skewed by misinformation. You obviously don’t watch what you spend at all. Most voters do, though. Many people have literal grocery receipts from 2021. I have order histories in my apps that let me compare exactly what the same basket of groceries cost, because I have been buying the same stuff, and I don’t watch costs closely.

You seem shockingly out of touch, bizarrely so.

It happened. But inflation was back down to normal levels for months before the election. Prices remained high, but that’s not inflation. It takes a very bad economy for prices to actually go down (deflation).

And there were a lot of factors that led to price increases. Inflation was a worldwide phenomena related to the pandemic and recovery. They started to climb way back when Trump was president. The US economy has recovered much better than in many other countries.

Pushing about the price of eggs was blatant misinformation - the bird flu caused a huge jump in prices.

Believing that Trump can do anything about higher prices is foolish. I mean, I guess he couple collapse the economy but that doesn’t seem like the best outcome for most Americans.

I literally have receipts comparing my 2021 egg purchases to last weekend’s purchases. What sort of gaslighting game are you pushing here anyhow?

What point are you trying to make?

That the people claiming that inflation and worries about inflation are “misinformation” are gaslighting. It’s not just eggs that are much higher, it’s groceries across the board. And people who shop for their families have the hard receipts to prove it.

What is clear from this thread is that very few DCUM Democratic evangelicals do their own grocery shopping. That’s fine, but it means they are sealed in a bubble as to how grocery prices are affecting people, and also inclined to believe the facially outrageous claim that concerns about inflation are somehow “misinformation.”

So the companies producing all these products shouldn’t be held accountable at all?

Uh, what sort of weirdo non-sequitor is this? Tell me, how did you get from point A to point B here?

what?! Have you ever asked yourself what kind of profits these companies are making? The CEO and other executives? The government doesn’t set the prices.

You seem to be clumsily saying that people should be ignoring high prices in the voting booth because you don’t think those high prices are important, Democrats shouldn’t care about high prices politically, high grocery prices are “misinformation”, and people should have voted for Harris anyhow because some unnamed, anonymous executives out there are making profits they shouldn’t have? Is that what you are driving at?

Goodness. No wonder the Democrats lost so handily.

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Anonymous wrote:So it sounds like there’s consensus here among the Dems. They lost because of “egg prices” and misinformation of dumb voters. No reevaluation of policy necessary, they will count on a weak economy and run someone like Buttigieg in 2028.

As a conservative, I’m feeling better than ever after reading this thread!

You THINK they need to re-evaluate their policies because you THINK their top priorities are junk like promoting boys in girls sports and bathrooms and flooding the country with illegals. And that's where you're misinformed.

10000%

I provided data for my views, where’s yours besides a lost election?

"you THINK their top priorities are junk like promoting boys in girls sports and bathrooms and flooding the country with illegals. And that's where you're misinformed."

You haven't addressed that.

I provided the polling to show what the voters were making their choices on based off four years of Biden-Harris in action.

No, these are clearly opinions skewed by misinformation:

"that inflation was too high"
"debt rose too much"
"Harris was too focused on cultural issues rather than helping the middle class"

I am fascinated by the fact you think that “inflation was too high” is something skewed by misinformation. You obviously don’t watch what you spend at all. Most voters do, though. Many people have literal grocery receipts from 2021. I have order histories in my apps that let me compare exactly what the same basket of groceries cost, because I have been buying the same stuff, and I don’t watch costs closely.

You seem shockingly out of touch, bizarrely so.

We’re all perfectly aware of how ridiculously expensive things have gotten. We just understand the causes and solutions. We know that we’ve recovered from the pandemic better than most economies and it’s been steadily improving. We also know that some corporations have taken advantage of this and greed needs to be regulated.

But your claim was that “inflation was too high” was “clearly” an “opinion skewed by misinformation.” That is what you wrote, not me. I want to know exactly what misinformation skewed that, because that is your claim, and it a a really big assertion to make.

That wasn’t me. Prices are high but I understand why and it’s not Biden “fault”.

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Anonymous wrote:So it sounds like there’s consensus here among the Dems. They lost because of “egg prices” and misinformation of dumb voters. No reevaluation of policy necessary, they will count on a weak economy and run someone like Buttigieg in 2028.

As a conservative, I’m feeling better than ever after reading this thread!

This is basically it, yes. And even more remarkably the Democrats are in fact quite giddy about this strategy.

I’m a moderate Democrat and this thread is so incredibly depressing to me. I have been thinking about giving up and just registering Independent anyhow.

I'm a moderate Republican and agree 100%.

I'm reminded of a famous quote by the great President Lincoln during his Gettysburg address....

"Government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."

This entire thread is indeed depressing and proof that both parties have lost the meaning of what our Government should be.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes Democrats, run on the “Americans are stupid” platform.

That wouldn't be the platform, stupid.

It just means that Ds shouldn't assume any level of critical thinking when they come up with messaging going forward.

And they need to embed and astroturf just as the Rs have.

I’m stupid, voters are stupid, everyone but you is stupid.

I think there many now and eventually many more of the 155 million people that were duped into voting for Trump and Biden in 2020 looking back thinking how "stupid" they were for voting for unfit people.

For 2024 Trump voters, "stupid" is magnified a little more. Trump had the job previously. While on the job and carrying the title "Commander-in-Chief", he went AWOL for three hours, refusing to take calls, make calls, or respond to pleas for help in any way while a mob of hundreds had breached security at The US Capitol Building and had chased congress and many other prominent US leaders from The House floor to the basement while looking for people to hang. Your POTUS, Commander-in-Chief, ignored the primary purpose of a Commander-in-Chief for THREE fricking hours during that moment. This was confirmed by testimony under oath from Trump's children and closest staff members.

I'd love to hear a counter argument from a Trump voter as to how it makes sense to cast a vote for previous POTUS that did what Trump did in that moment. There is no argument. Just stupidity and they know it. I totally get not voting for Biden or Harris but to cast a vote for someone who performed cowardly in that way the one time he had a chance to act as C-i-C during his first term is beyond stupid.

No way in heck is what you say in the PP true. No president would ever ignore their job in a moment like that. Stop lying.

Trump launched an attack on the capitol and congress.
He sat back and watched it burn, and did nothing.

Whether or not Trump technically "launched" an attack on Congress is subject to debate but there is no debating whether or not he abandoned his job and country for three hours while the sovereignty of our country was under attack.

Why should the POTUS have to defend our government and the sovereignty of our country? Isn't that the military's job? Trump did nothing wrong and most of those people that stormed the Capitol probably didn't have bad intentions. Get over it.

This is a very poor quality attempt at trolling.

POTUS does in fact have a responsibility to protect the nation and uphold the constitution, and swears an oath to do so. And if someone were to smash their way into your house, call for you to be hanged, ransack your living room, smear poop on the wall, steal your laptop and other things, you'd sit back and say "that's all fine, they aren't doing anything wrong?"

Good grief, PP. Reconsider your poor life choices that got you here and understand you are doing very poorly with your posts here.

Well, when you put it that way, I guess Trump should have done something. Hopefully he'll make up for that lapse in judgement by reducing the cost of eggs. I ain't paying $3.99 a dozen much longer!!

Do you actually even do the shopping in your home? Doesn't seem like it. The $4 eggs thing was a year ago and had a lot more to do with bird flu and flocks having to be destroyed than it did with Biden. That's a fact. If your vote was based on "eggs are too expensive" then it was based on info that was a.) outdated and b.) misguided and misinformed.

But I guess you can go on believing your misinformation - but what are you going to do when prices don't come down significantly now that Trump has been elected? Still blame Biden? That isn't going to work for you or anyone else. At some point you're going to have to accept some realities about what you voted for and what Trump fails to deliver.

I’m in California and I just paid $7.99 for a dozen eggs yesterday. Can you tell me how the price I paid is “misinformation”?

organic? cage free? I see that at Whole foods too. You don’t have to buy the most expensive one available!

NP and prices are expensive either way. I grocery shop at Walmart. Yes, Walmart. Most of DCUM won’t buy anything there. I was shocked to see my bill today to get the basics for Thanksgiving and buying generic whenever possible. I can see my price history on the app and prices are way up from prior years.

And then look at WalMart's record profits and you have your answer.

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Anonymous wrote:So it sounds like there’s consensus here among the Dems. They lost because of “egg prices” and misinformation of dumb voters. No reevaluation of policy necessary, they will count on a weak economy and run someone like Buttigieg in 2028.

As a conservative, I’m feeling better than ever after reading this thread!

You THINK they need to re-evaluate their policies because you THINK their top priorities are junk like promoting boys in girls sports and bathrooms and flooding the country with illegals. And that's where you're misinformed.

10000%

I provided data for my views, where’s yours besides a lost election?

"you THINK their top priorities are junk like promoting boys in girls sports and bathrooms and flooding the country with illegals. And that's where you're misinformed."

You haven't addressed that.

I provided the polling to show what the voters were making their choices on based off four years of Biden-Harris in action.

No, these are clearly opinions skewed by misinformation:

"that inflation was too high"
"debt rose too much"
"Harris was too focused on cultural issues rather than helping the middle class"

I am fascinated by the fact you think that “inflation was too high” is something skewed by misinformation. You obviously don’t watch what you spend at all. Most voters do, though. Many people have literal grocery receipts from 2021. I have order histories in my apps that let me compare exactly what the same basket of groceries cost, because I have been buying the same stuff, and I don’t watch costs closely.

You seem shockingly out of touch, bizarrely so.

It happened. But inflation was back down to normal levels for months before the election. Prices remained high, but that’s not inflation. It takes a very bad economy for prices to actually go down (deflation).

And there were a lot of factors that led to price increases. Inflation was a worldwide phenomena related to the pandemic and recovery. They started to climb way back when Trump was president. The US economy has recovered much better than in many other countries.

Pushing about the price of eggs was blatant misinformation - the bird flu caused a huge jump in prices.

Believing that Trump can do anything about higher prices is foolish. I mean, I guess he couple collapse the economy but that doesn’t seem like the best outcome for most Americans.

I literally have receipts comparing my 2021 egg purchases to last weekend’s purchases. What sort of gaslighting game are you pushing here anyhow?

What point are you trying to make?

That the people claiming that inflation and worries about inflation are “misinformation” are gaslighting. It’s not just eggs that are much higher, it’s groceries across the board. And people who shop for their families have the hard receipts to prove it.

What is clear from this thread is that very few DCUM Democratic evangelicals do their own grocery shopping. That’s fine, but it means they are sealed in a bubble as to how grocery prices are affecting people, and also inclined to believe the facially outrageous claim that concerns about inflation are somehow “misinformation.”

So the companies producing all these products shouldn’t be held accountable at all?

Uh, what sort of weirdo non-sequitor is this? Tell me, how did you get from point A to point B here?

what?! Have you ever asked yourself what kind of profits these companies are making? The CEO and other executives? The government doesn’t set the prices.

You seem to be clumsily saying that people should be ignoring high prices in the voting booth because you don’t think those high prices are important, Democrats shouldn’t care about high prices politically, high grocery prices are “misinformation”, and people should have voted for Harris anyhow because some unnamed, anonymous executives out there are making profits they shouldn’t have? Is that what you are driving at?

Goodness. No wonder the Democrats lost so handily.

democrats understand we live in a capitalist country. what is the GOP solution for high grocery prices? I didn't hear one idea throughout the campaign.

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Anonymous wrote:So it sounds like there’s consensus here among the Dems. They lost because of “egg prices” and misinformation of dumb voters. No reevaluation of policy necessary, they will count on a weak economy and run someone like Buttigieg in 2028.

As a conservative, I’m feeling better than ever after reading this thread!

You THINK they need to re-evaluate their policies because you THINK their top priorities are junk like promoting boys in girls sports and bathrooms and flooding the country with illegals. And that's where you're misinformed.

10000%

I provided data for my views, where’s yours besides a lost election?

"you THINK their top priorities are junk like promoting boys in girls sports and bathrooms and flooding the country with illegals. And that's where you're misinformed."

You haven't addressed that.

I provided the polling to show what the voters were making their choices on based off four years of Biden-Harris in action.

No, these are clearly opinions skewed by misinformation:

"that inflation was too high"
"debt rose too much"
"Harris was too focused on cultural issues rather than helping the middle class"

I am fascinated by the fact you think that “inflation was too high” is something skewed by misinformation. You obviously don’t watch what you spend at all. Most voters do, though. Many people have literal grocery receipts from 2021. I have order histories in my apps that let me compare exactly what the same basket of groceries cost, because I have been buying the same stuff, and I don’t watch costs closely.

You seem shockingly out of touch, bizarrely so.

It happened. But inflation was back down to normal levels for months before the election. Prices remained high, but that’s not inflation. It takes a very bad economy for prices to actually go down (deflation).

And there were a lot of factors that led to price increases. Inflation was a worldwide phenomena related to the pandemic and recovery. They started to climb way back when Trump was president. The US economy has recovered much better than in many other countries.

Pushing about the price of eggs was blatant misinformation - the bird flu caused a huge jump in prices.

Believing that Trump can do anything about higher prices is foolish. I mean, I guess he couple collapse the economy but that doesn’t seem like the best outcome for most Americans.

I literally have receipts comparing my 2021 egg purchases to last weekend’s purchases. What sort of gaslighting game are you pushing here anyhow?

What point are you trying to make?

That the people claiming that inflation and worries about inflation are “misinformation” are gaslighting. It’s not just eggs that are much higher, it’s groceries across the board. And people who shop for their families have the hard receipts to prove it.

What is clear from this thread is that very few DCUM Democratic evangelicals do their own grocery shopping. That’s fine, but it means they are sealed in a bubble as to how grocery prices are affecting people, and also inclined to believe the facially outrageous claim that concerns about inflation are somehow “misinformation.”

Inflation is down. Prices are permanently up. These are two different things.

Dear God, why on earth do you think that matters? You can split hairs all you like but telling people that they’re wrong because ACTUALLY it’s not inflation, it’s just higher prices so they should be just fine is not exactly a compelling message.

Because prices are not going to go down. Not with Trump, not with anyone.

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The misinformation some of you keep missing is HOW and WHY prices got high and WHAT Biden’s administration has done about it, how inflation has decreased and how well we recovered compared to other countries.

Trumpers, and some dems here, apparently, seem to think Biden had a magic wand he didn’t use and he just likes inflation.

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Anonymous wrote:The misinformation some of you keep missing is HOW and WHY prices got high and WHAT Biden’s administration has done about it, how inflation has decreased and how well we recovered compared to other countries.

Trumpers, and some dems here, apparently, seem to think Biden had a magic wand he didn’t use and he just likes inflation.

Oh for Pete’s sakes. Ridiculous take.

Please continue down this path if you want to keep losing.

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Anonymous wrote:So it sounds like there’s consensus here among the Dems. They lost because of “egg prices” and misinformation of dumb voters. No reevaluation of policy necessary, they will count on a weak economy and run someone like Buttigieg in 2028.

As a conservative, I’m feeling better than ever after reading this thread!

You THINK they need to re-evaluate their policies because you THINK their top priorities are junk like promoting boys in girls sports and bathrooms and flooding the country with illegals. And that's where you're misinformed.

10000%

I provided data for my views, where’s yours besides a lost election?

"you THINK their top priorities are junk like promoting boys in girls sports and bathrooms and flooding the country with illegals. And that's where you're misinformed."

You haven't addressed that.

I provided the polling to show what the voters were making their choices on based off four years of Biden-Harris in action.

No, these are clearly opinions skewed by misinformation:

"that inflation was too high"
"debt rose too much"
"Harris was too focused on cultural issues rather than helping the middle class"

I am fascinated by the fact you think that “inflation was too high” is something skewed by misinformation. You obviously don’t watch what you spend at all. Most voters do, though. Many people have literal grocery receipts from 2021. I have order histories in my apps that let me compare exactly what the same basket of groceries cost, because I have been buying the same stuff, and I don’t watch costs closely.

You seem shockingly out of touch, bizarrely so.

It happened. But inflation was back down to normal levels for months before the election. Prices remained high, but that’s not inflation. It takes a very bad economy for prices to actually go down (deflation).

And there were a lot of factors that led to price increases. Inflation was a worldwide phenomena related to the pandemic and recovery. They started to climb way back when Trump was president. The US economy has recovered much better than in many other countries.

Pushing about the price of eggs was blatant misinformation - the bird flu caused a huge jump in prices.

Believing that Trump can do anything about higher prices is foolish. I mean, I guess he couple collapse the economy but that doesn’t seem like the best outcome for most Americans.

Question: do you ever shop for household goods yourself? Or do you always have the hired help do it? You seem weirdly out of touch and I’m trying to figure out why.

Ad hominem, but yes, my spouse and I each shop at least once a week for groceries/household items.

Inflation is back to normal. Prices are still higher - for a variety of reasons. Trump isn't going to do anything about that.

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Anonymous wrote:So it sounds like there’s consensus here among the Dems. They lost because of “egg prices” and misinformation of dumb voters. No reevaluation of policy necessary, they will count on a weak economy and run someone like Buttigieg in 2028.

As a conservative, I’m feeling better than ever after reading this thread!

You THINK they need to re-evaluate their policies because you THINK their top priorities are junk like promoting boys in girls sports and bathrooms and flooding the country with illegals. And that's where you're misinformed.

10000%

I provided data for my views, where’s yours besides a lost election?

"you THINK their top priorities are junk like promoting boys in girls sports and bathrooms and flooding the country with illegals. And that's where you're misinformed."

You haven't addressed that.

I provided the polling to show what the voters were making their choices on based off four years of Biden-Harris in action.

No, these are clearly opinions skewed by misinformation:

"that inflation was too high"
"debt rose too much"
"Harris was too focused on cultural issues rather than helping the middle class"

I am fascinated by the fact you think that “inflation was too high” is something skewed by misinformation. You obviously don’t watch what you spend at all. Most voters do, though. Many people have literal grocery receipts from 2021. I have order histories in my apps that let me compare exactly what the same basket of groceries cost, because I have been buying the same stuff, and I don’t watch costs closely.

You seem shockingly out of touch, bizarrely so.

It happened. But inflation was back down to normal levels for months before the election. Prices remained high, but that’s not inflation. It takes a very bad economy for prices to actually go down (deflation).

And there were a lot of factors that led to price increases. Inflation was a worldwide phenomena related to the pandemic and recovery. They started to climb way back when Trump was president. The US economy has recovered much better than in many other countries.

Pushing about the price of eggs was blatant misinformation - the bird flu caused a huge jump in prices.

Believing that Trump can do anything about higher prices is foolish. I mean, I guess he couple collapse the economy but that doesn’t seem like the best outcome for most Americans.

I literally have receipts comparing my 2021 egg purchases to last weekend’s purchases. What sort of gaslighting game are you pushing here anyhow?

What didn't you understand?

Yes, egg prices are higher now than 2021. No one is disputing that. We did have high inflation that caused prices to go up. The prices are still high, but we back down to normal inflation levels.

The bird flu has caused egg shortages since 2022 - causing prices to spike.

From the farm bureau:
https://www.fb.org/market-intel/avian-influen...eys-and-eggs-hardest
"highly pathogenic avian influenza (HPAI) has been giving farmers and consumers headaches for nearly three years. "

"Over 100 million birds throughout the poultry industry have been affected by HPAI since 2022, including 3.6 million this October. Egg layers and turkeys have been the most impacted"

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Anonymous wrote:So it sounds like there’s consensus here among the Dems. They lost because of “egg prices” and misinformation of dumb voters. No reevaluation of policy necessary, they will count on a weak economy and run someone like Buttigieg in 2028.

As a conservative, I’m feeling better than ever after reading this thread!

You THINK they need to re-evaluate their policies because you THINK their top priorities are junk like promoting boys in girls sports and bathrooms and flooding the country with illegals. And that's where you're misinformed.

10000%

I provided data for my views, where’s yours besides a lost election?

"you THINK their top priorities are junk like promoting boys in girls sports and bathrooms and flooding the country with illegals. And that's where you're misinformed."

You haven't addressed that.

I provided the polling to show what the voters were making their choices on based off four years of Biden-Harris in action.

No, these are clearly opinions skewed by misinformation:

"that inflation was too high"
"debt rose too much"
"Harris was too focused on cultural issues rather than helping the middle class"

I am fascinated by the fact you think that “inflation was too high” is something skewed by misinformation. You obviously don’t watch what you spend at all. Most voters do, though. Many people have literal grocery receipts from 2021. I have order histories in my apps that let me compare exactly what the same basket of groceries cost, because I have been buying the same stuff, and I don’t watch costs closely.

You seem shockingly out of touch, bizarrely so.

It happened. But inflation was back down to normal levels for months before the election. Prices remained high, but that’s not inflation. It takes a very bad economy for prices to actually go down (deflation).

And there were a lot of factors that led to price increases. Inflation was a worldwide phenomena related to the pandemic and recovery. They started to climb way back when Trump was president. The US economy has recovered much better than in many other countries.

Pushing about the price of eggs was blatant misinformation - the bird flu caused a huge jump in prices.

Believing that Trump can do anything about higher prices is foolish. I mean, I guess he couple collapse the economy but that doesn’t seem like the best outcome for most Americans.

I literally have receipts comparing my 2021 egg purchases to last weekend’s purchases. What sort of gaslighting game are you pushing here anyhow?

What point are you trying to make?

That the people claiming that inflation and worries about inflation are “misinformation” are gaslighting. It’s not just eggs that are much higher, it’s groceries across the board. And people who shop for their families have the hard receipts to prove it.

What is clear from this thread is that very few DCUM Democratic evangelicals do their own grocery shopping. That’s fine, but it means they are sealed in a bubble as to how grocery prices are affecting people, and also inclined to believe the facially outrageous claim that concerns about inflation are somehow “misinformation.”

Inflation is down. Prices are permanently up. These are two different things.

Dear God, why on earth do you think that matters? You can split hairs all you like but telling people that they’re wrong because ACTUALLY it’s not inflation, it’s just higher prices so they should be just fine is not exactly a compelling message.

No one says it's "just fine". People are explaining why it happened and what will happen moving forward. Trump voters obviously don't understand the situation. They just listed to RW propaganda blaming Biden and saying that Trump can fix it.