Time for reflection as a dem?

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Anonymous wrote:So it sounds like there’s consensus here among the Dems. They lost because of “egg prices” and misinformation of dumb voters. No reevaluation of policy necessary, they will count on a weak economy and run someone like Buttigieg in 2028.

As a conservative, I’m feeling better than ever after reading this thread!

You THINK they need to re-evaluate their policies because you THINK their top priorities are junk like promoting boys in girls sports and bathrooms and flooding the country with illegals. And that's where you're misinformed.

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I provided data for my views, where’s yours besides a lost election?

"you THINK their top priorities are junk like promoting boys in girls sports and bathrooms and flooding the country with illegals. And that's where you're misinformed."

You haven't addressed that.

I provided the polling to show what the voters were making their choices on based off four years of Biden-Harris in action.

No, these are clearly opinions skewed by misinformation:

"that inflation was too high"
"debt rose too much"
"Harris was too focused on cultural issues rather than helping the middle class"

I am fascinated by the fact you think that “inflation was too high” is something skewed by misinformation. You obviously don’t watch what you spend at all. Most voters do, though. Many people have literal grocery receipts from 2021. I have order histories in my apps that let me compare exactly what the same basket of groceries cost, because I have been buying the same stuff, and I don’t watch costs closely.

You seem shockingly out of touch, bizarrely so.

It happened. But inflation was back down to normal levels for months before the election. Prices remained high, but that’s not inflation. It takes a very bad economy for prices to actually go down (deflation).

And there were a lot of factors that led to price increases. Inflation was a worldwide phenomena related to the pandemic and recovery. They started to climb way back when Trump was president. The US economy has recovered much better than in many other countries.

Pushing about the price of eggs was blatant misinformation - the bird flu caused a huge jump in prices.

Believing that Trump can do anything about higher prices is foolish. I mean, I guess he couple collapse the economy but that doesn’t seem like the best outcome for most Americans.

I literally have receipts comparing my 2021 egg purchases to last weekend’s purchases. What sort of gaslighting game are you pushing here anyhow?

What point are you trying to make?

That the people claiming that inflation and worries about inflation are “misinformation” are gaslighting. It’s not just eggs that are much higher, it’s groceries across the board. And people who shop for their families have the hard receipts to prove it.

What is clear from this thread is that very few DCUM Democratic evangelicals do their own grocery shopping. That’s fine, but it means they are sealed in a bubble as to how grocery prices are affecting people, and also inclined to believe the facially outrageous claim that concerns about inflation are somehow “misinformation.”

Inflation is down. Prices are permanently up. These are two different things.

+1 I just read that historically our inflation isn’t that high. The issue is price gouging, which Kamala said she wanted to address. But, it’s already going up with the promise of tariffs. Some small companies may go out of business, but these large corps will jack up prices because they can. As we just saw, the voting public doesn’t understand economics, so they’ll blame someone else instead of the CEOs.

$20,000,000.00. in debt after spending a billion? And you wanted her to fix the economy?......

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I haven’t seen any Dem say in layman’s terms why Trump is so evil and why he’s a criminal in a way average Americans can understand.

The most googled word during the first Trump administration was “collusion”.

Remember Russian “collusion”?

Instead of spending time explaining policies, the Dems spent time on failed legal expeditions

Anyone who has access to a television or social media saw repeatedly how he colluded (asking Russia on live tv to spy on his political opponent) and why he’s a criminal (1/6) and why he’s evil (the list is long but let’s start with mocking a disabled reporter and claiming that hardworking Haitians were eating their neighbors pets).

But, troll, laymen’s terms won’t override your cognitive dissonance.

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Anonymous wrote:The primary issue for the Democratic Party is that it broadly tells the truth and doesn’t stoke fear.

Trump lies constantly about everything and inexplicably his supporters don’t care and don’t expect him to have any policy ideas whatsoever.

Trump traffics in playing on people’s fear about the future and encourages them to place the blame on the “other”. He also has made it acceptable to be uncivilized.

It’s difficult to be realistic and polite and gain votes.

I’m an actual registered Democrat and I think the bolded is outright delusional.

Ditto. For instance. "We must save our Democracy(TM). - The DNC

We must save our DNC is more like it. In the next line, they will say Trump is fascist and a new Hitler and he’s going to destroy democracy and never give up presidential power yet he’s not the sitting president and he didn’t send his DOJ after all the Russia collusion hounds during his first administration. Had Rachel Maddow talked about President and Hunter Biden’s ties to Ukraine, China, and Russia and she would have been without a job very quickly at MSNBC. The largest censorship and anti democracy administration is the current one.

Another jewel is when Kamala said democracy is on the ballot yet she wasn’t on any ballot during a primary

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Anonymous wrote:So it sounds like there’s consensus here among the Dems. They lost because of “egg prices” and misinformation of dumb voters. No reevaluation of policy necessary, they will count on a weak economy and run someone like Buttigieg in 2028.

As a conservative, I’m feeling better than ever after reading this thread!

You THINK they need to re-evaluate their policies because you THINK their top priorities are junk like promoting boys in girls sports and bathrooms and flooding the country with illegals. And that's where you're misinformed.

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I provided data for my views, where’s yours besides a lost election?

"you THINK their top priorities are junk like promoting boys in girls sports and bathrooms and flooding the country with illegals. And that's where you're misinformed."

You haven't addressed that.

I provided the polling to show what the voters were making their choices on based off four years of Biden-Harris in action.

No, these are clearly opinions skewed by misinformation:

"that inflation was too high"
"debt rose too much"
"Harris was too focused on cultural issues rather than helping the middle class"

I am fascinated by the fact you think that “inflation was too high” is something skewed by misinformation. You obviously don’t watch what you spend at all. Most voters do, though. Many people have literal grocery receipts from 2021. I have order histories in my apps that let me compare exactly what the same basket of groceries cost, because I have been buying the same stuff, and I don’t watch costs closely.

You seem shockingly out of touch, bizarrely so.

We’re all perfectly aware of how ridiculously expensive things have gotten. We just understand the causes and solutions. We know that we’ve recovered from the pandemic better than most economies and it’s been steadily improving. We also know that some corporations have taken advantage of this and greed needs to be regulated.

But your claim was that “inflation was too high” was “clearly” an “opinion skewed by misinformation.” That is what you wrote, not me. I want to know exactly what misinformation skewed that, because that is your claim, and it a a really big assertion to make.

That wasn’t me. Prices are high but I understand why and it’s not Biden “fault”.

It is. He flooded the economy with stimulus dollars coming out of the pandemic. He was warned by economists and ignored them.

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Anonymous wrote:The primary issue for the Democratic Party is that it broadly tells the truth and doesn’t stoke fear.

Trump lies constantly about everything and inexplicably his supporters don’t care and don’t expect him to have any policy ideas whatsoever.

Trump traffics in playing on people’s fear about the future and encourages them to place the blame on the “other”. He also has made it acceptable to be uncivilized.

It’s difficult to be realistic and polite and gain votes.

I’m an actual registered Democrat and I think the bolded is outright delusional.

Ditto. For instance. "We must save our Democracy(TM). - The DNC

We must save our DNC is more like it. In the next line, they will say Trump is fascist and a new Hitler and he’s going to destroy democracy and never give up presidential power yet he’s not the sitting president and he didn’t send his DOJ after all the Russia collusion hounds during his first administration. Had Rachel Maddow talked about President and Hunter Biden’s ties to Ukraine, China, and Russia and she would have been without a job very quickly at MSNBC. The largest censorship and anti democracy administration is the current one.

Another jewel is when Kamala said democracy is on the ballot yet she wasn’t on any ballot during a primary

Mark Kelly said he was a fascist. You know, you really should get paid to troll. But I’d definitely recommend you for a job at DOGE since they want people to work 80 hours/week for free. No billions for you, minion.

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Anonymous wrote:The primary issue for the Democratic Party is that it broadly tells the truth and doesn’t stoke fear.

Trump lies constantly about everything and inexplicably his supporters don’t care and don’t expect him to have any policy ideas whatsoever.

Trump traffics in playing on people’s fear about the future and encourages them to place the blame on the “other”. He also has made it acceptable to be uncivilized.

It’s difficult to be realistic and polite and gain votes.

I’m an actual registered Democrat and I think the bolded is outright delusional.

Ditto. For instance. "We must save our Democracy(TM). - The DNC

We must save our DNC is more like it. In the next line, they will say Trump is fascist and a new Hitler and he’s going to destroy democracy and never give up presidential power yet he’s not the sitting president and he didn’t send his DOJ after all the Russia collusion hounds during his first administration. Had Rachel Maddow talked about President and Hunter Biden’s ties to Ukraine, China, and Russia and she would have been without a job very quickly at MSNBC. The largest censorship and anti democracy administration is the current one.

Another jewel is when Kamala said democracy is on the ballot yet she wasn’t on any ballot during a primary

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Not to mention the constant fear-stoking coming from the left. CONSTANT. This forum is a great example, as is MSNBC and CNN.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"Laken Rileys Killer never stood a chance"
-MSNBC.


Yeah you all need to reflect.

I will reflect on why we have a gun epidemic in this country and why R’s do nothing to stop it, if anything it is encouraged. I wish the Rs showed as much empathy for children killed in their classrooms as they did for this one person.

You cannot be serious. You’re trying to make this case into a gun control one instead of acknowledging that Riley’s killer was a gang member who arrived illegally and was housed at taxpayer expense at a luxury hotel in Manhattan before flying also at taxpayer expense to Georgia.

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Anonymous wrote:So it sounds like there’s consensus here among the Dems. They lost because of “egg prices” and misinformation of dumb voters. No reevaluation of policy necessary, they will count on a weak economy and run someone like Buttigieg in 2028.

As a conservative, I’m feeling better than ever after reading this thread!

You THINK they need to re-evaluate their policies because you THINK their top priorities are junk like promoting boys in girls sports and bathrooms and flooding the country with illegals. And that's where you're misinformed.

10000%

I provided data for my views, where’s yours besides a lost election?

"you THINK their top priorities are junk like promoting boys in girls sports and bathrooms and flooding the country with illegals. And that's where you're misinformed."

You haven't addressed that.

I provided the polling to show what the voters were making their choices on based off four years of Biden-Harris in action.

No, these are clearly opinions skewed by misinformation:

"that inflation was too high"
"debt rose too much"
"Harris was too focused on cultural issues rather than helping the middle class"

I am fascinated by the fact you think that “inflation was too high” is something skewed by misinformation. You obviously don’t watch what you spend at all. Most voters do, though. Many people have literal grocery receipts from 2021. I have order histories in my apps that let me compare exactly what the same basket of groceries cost, because I have been buying the same stuff, and I don’t watch costs closely.

You seem shockingly out of touch, bizarrely so.

We’re all perfectly aware of how ridiculously expensive things have gotten. We just understand the causes and solutions. We know that we’ve recovered from the pandemic better than most economies and it’s been steadily improving. We also know that some corporations have taken advantage of this and greed needs to be regulated.

But your claim was that “inflation was too high” was “clearly” an “opinion skewed by misinformation.” That is what you wrote, not me. I want to know exactly what misinformation skewed that, because that is your claim, and it a a really big assertion to make.

That wasn’t me. Prices are high but I understand why and it’s not Biden “fault”.

It is. He flooded the economy with stimulus dollars coming out of the pandemic. He was warned by economists and ignored them.

Yes, Trump/Biden Covid related government stimulus dollars did add some fuel for the inflation fire but it was just one of numerous factors.

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This supposedly self reflection thread for Dems is overrun by deranged MAGAs. 125 pages! I just don’t get it, why can’t they just relax and wait for all that they voted for. Each thread turns into a grievance fest. It really is getting old.

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Anonymous wrote:So it sounds like there’s consensus here among the Dems. They lost because of “egg prices” and misinformation of dumb voters. No reevaluation of policy necessary, they will count on a weak economy and run someone like Buttigieg in 2028.

As a conservative, I’m feeling better than ever after reading this thread!

You THINK they need to re-evaluate their policies because you THINK their top priorities are junk like promoting boys in girls sports and bathrooms and flooding the country with illegals. And that's where you're misinformed.

10000%

I provided data for my views, where’s yours besides a lost election?

"you THINK their top priorities are junk like promoting boys in girls sports and bathrooms and flooding the country with illegals. And that's where you're misinformed."

You haven't addressed that.

I provided the polling to show what the voters were making their choices on based off four years of Biden-Harris in action.

No, these are clearly opinions skewed by misinformation:

"that inflation was too high"
"debt rose too much"
"Harris was too focused on cultural issues rather than helping the middle class"

I am fascinated by the fact you think that “inflation was too high” is something skewed by misinformation. You obviously don’t watch what you spend at all. Most voters do, though. Many people have literal grocery receipts from 2021. I have order histories in my apps that let me compare exactly what the same basket of groceries cost, because I have been buying the same stuff, and I don’t watch costs closely.

You seem shockingly out of touch, bizarrely so.

It happened. But inflation was back down to normal levels for months before the election. Prices remained high, but that’s not inflation. It takes a very bad economy for prices to actually go down (deflation).

And there were a lot of factors that led to price increases. Inflation was a worldwide phenomena related to the pandemic and recovery. They started to climb way back when Trump was president. The US economy has recovered much better than in many other countries.

Pushing about the price of eggs was blatant misinformation - the bird flu caused a huge jump in prices.

Believing that Trump can do anything about higher prices is foolish. I mean, I guess he couple collapse the economy but that doesn’t seem like the best outcome for most Americans.

Question: do you ever shop for household goods yourself? Or do you always have the hired help do it? You seem weirdly out of touch and I’m trying to figure out why.

Are you talking to Donald Trump? I don't think he's ever in his life gone to a grocery store to buy a carton of eggs for his family.

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Anonymous wrote:"Laken Rileys Killer never stood a chance"
-MSNBC.


Yeah you all need to reflect.

I will reflect on why we have a gun epidemic in this country and why R’s do nothing to stop it, if anything it is encouraged. I wish the Rs showed as much empathy for children killed in their classrooms as they did for this one person.

You cannot be serious. You’re trying to make this case into a gun control one instead of acknowledging that Riley’s killer was a gang member who arrived illegally and was housed at taxpayer expense at a luxury hotel in Manhattan before flying also at taxpayer expense to Georgia.

It would be nice if domestic abuse victims could shelter in luxury hotels instead or veterans but that sounds too much like competence and good sense so we know that can never be a government idea