MoCo seeking feedback on proposal to limit single family zoning

[Anonymous]

You guys are missing what brought us to live out here in the first place.
I love our expansive, multi acre lot. I love living among other people who value this, surrounded by families and people who value space, privacy, serenity, beautiful construction, everybody in our neighborhood takes impeccable care of their homes and their lots, and there is true safety and prosperity in our corner of Potomac.

I don’t want it ruined, simply so you guys can give a kick back to developers in an effort to alleviate the overcrowding in Silver Spring. It’s a hot mess and it won’t fix anything.

[Anonymous]

The unintended consequence will be white flight/affluent flight to other counties or states—further eroding the county’s tax base.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m glad we’re finally doing upzoning. For those supporting the attainable housing strategy, please consider supporting the zoning changes but opposing the proposed tax breaks. We really can’t afford them (the MCPS expansion budget is already underfunded), and they undermine planning’s assertion that infrastructure like schools will come with new housing because there won’t be enough money to pay for new schools.

You are “upzoning” on the backs of middle class and working class families who worked hard to save for a SFH and whose nest eggs are tied up in those homes. These developers are going to set up shop in Bethesda and Potomac.

Those people will all do just fine if they decide to sell their houses because their land is going to appreciate. They won’t do well if the county gives out more tax breaks to developers and makes up for it by increasing property taxes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://moco360.media/2024/09/04/county-to-hear-from-public-on-proposal-to-limit-single-family-zoning/?utm_source=MoCo360&utm_campaign=2a42d0fbf4-POLITICS_NEWSLETTER_09132024&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_1bbe9df5d9-2a42d0fbf4-105195105&mc_cid=2a42d0fbf4&mc_eid=d032765bbc

MoCo seeking feedback on proposal to limit single family zoning. Note dates for listening sessions.

Speak now or forever hold your peace.

It won't matter that those who live in single family neighborhoods would like to keep them that way (there's a reason they moved out of cities and into suburbs). The writing is on the wall and the funds in developer and council members pockets, this will pass just as it has in other jurisdictions. It's how the wind is blowing

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The unintended consequence will be white flight/affluent flight to other counties or states—further eroding the county’s tax base.

Yup, the moment we see this crap in our hood we are leaving. Say goodbye to our tax dollars MoCo. Heck, we will just move to a different county in MD.

[Anonymous]

Isn't it amazing how illegal immigration ruins everything? They whine about lack of affordable housing and the need for more housing, therefore ruin all of our neighborhoods. Yeah, tell us how many affordable housing units illegal immigrants in the county are consuming.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You guys are missing what brought us to live out here in the first place.
I love our expansive, multi acre lot. I love living among other people who value this, surrounded by families and people who value space, privacy, serenity, beautiful construction, everybody in our neighborhood takes impeccable care of their homes and their lots, and there is true safety and prosperity in our corner of Potomac.

I don’t want it ruined, simply so you guys can give a kick back to developers in an effort to alleviate the overcrowding in Silver Spring. It’s a hot mess and it won’t fix anything.

Another post that shows this isn't about the housing, it's about the people who (you fear) will live in the housing.

I get it: you like things the way they are, you don't want things to change. But "I, a current resident, don't want things to change" is not the basis for a sound housing policy for the county. Especially because things are going to change, whether the county changes the zoning or not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://moco360.media/2024/09/04/county-to-hear-from-public-on-proposal-to-limit-single-family-zoning/?utm_source=MoCo360&utm_campaign=2a42d0fbf4-POLITICS_NEWSLETTER_09132024&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_1bbe9df5d9-2a42d0fbf4-105195105&mc_cid=2a42d0fbf4&mc_eid=d032765bbc

MoCo seeking feedback on proposal to limit single family zoning. Note dates for listening sessions.

Speak now or forever hold your peace.

Thanks for the link. You're right, I need to speak up. I will plan to go to one of the sessions to support the proposal.

If you want to live in a city, move to one. Let the rest of us enjoy the space we bought.

You bought your property. You didn't buy the neighborhood.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://moco360.media/2024/09/04/county-to-hear-from-public-on-proposal-to-limit-single-family-zoning/?utm_source=MoCo360&utm_campaign=2a42d0fbf4-POLITICS_NEWSLETTER_09132024&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_1bbe9df5d9-2a42d0fbf4-105195105&mc_cid=2a42d0fbf4&mc_eid=d032765bbc

MoCo seeking feedback on proposal to limit single family zoning. Note dates for listening sessions.

Speak now or forever hold your peace.

Thanks for the link. You're right, I need to speak up. I will plan to go to one of the sessions to support the proposal.

If you want to live in a city, move to one. Let the rest of us enjoy the space we bought.

You bought your property. You didn't buy the neighborhood.

And you voted for stupidity. Have fun.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You guys are missing what brought us to live out here in the first place.
I love our expansive, multi acre lot. I love living among other people who value this, surrounded by families and people who value space, privacy, serenity, beautiful construction, everybody in our neighborhood takes impeccable care of their homes and their lots, and there is true safety and prosperity in our corner of Potomac.

I don’t want it ruined, simply so you guys can give a kick back to developers in an effort to alleviate the overcrowding in Silver Spring. It’s a hot mess and it won’t fix anything.

Another post that shows this isn't about the housing, it's about the people who (you fear) will live in the housing.

I get it: you like things the way they are, you don't want things to change. But "I, a current resident, don't want things to change" is not the basis for a sound housing policy for the county. Especially because things are going to change, whether the county changes the zoning or not.

Wait, someone is proposing sound housing policy? You should alert the council before they move forward with the hack job that they are proposing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The unintended consequence will be white flight/affluent flight to other counties or states—further eroding the county’s tax base.

Yup, the moment we see this crap in our hood we are leaving. Say goodbye to our tax dollars MoCo. Heck, we will just move to a different county in MD.

I think that we really only have one developable house on our street and we will just buy it if it goes up for sale. At least our street will stay livable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You guys are missing what brought us to live out here in the first place.
I love our expansive, multi acre lot. I love living among other people who value this, surrounded by families and people who value space, privacy, serenity, beautiful construction, everybody in our neighborhood takes impeccable care of their homes and their lots, and there is true safety and prosperity in our corner of Potomac.

I don’t want it ruined, simply so you guys can give a kick back to developers in an effort to alleviate the overcrowding in Silver Spring. It’s a hot mess and it won’t fix anything.

Another post that shows this isn't about the housing, it's about the people who (you fear) will live in the housing.

I get it: you like things the way they are, you don't want things to change. But "I, a current resident, don't want things to change" is not the basis for a sound housing policy for the county. Especially because things are going to change, whether the county changes the zoning or not.

Oh please. You are probably an angry renter furious about the fact that you can't afford a home in your crappy MoCo govt job salary. You want to take your frustration out on home owners because they're more successful than you, saved more diligently than you, and were able to buy a home as a result. Just because you can have what they have you want to ruin their homes and neighborhoods. If you want dense city life so much, go move to DC clown. Millions of people in the country do not want sh!tty urban life. Which is why they move to the burbs. Stop trying to bring urbanized cesspools to the burbs. Maybe you should also better yourself so you can afford a home rather than rent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You guys are missing what brought us to live out here in the first place.
I love our expansive, multi acre lot. I love living among other people who value this, surrounded by families and people who value space, privacy, serenity, beautiful construction, everybody in our neighborhood takes impeccable care of their homes and their lots, and there is true safety and prosperity in our corner of Potomac.

I don’t want it ruined, simply so you guys can give a kick back to developers in an effort to alleviate the overcrowding in Silver Spring. It’s a hot mess and it won’t fix anything.

Nice false-flag troll post, YIMBY.

The plan doesn't include those Residential Estate ("RE") zoned properties in wealthier Potomac, nor does it count the River Road corridor outside the beltway. It will further crowd Silver Spring because of the many detached SFH neighborhood properties there that haven't been substantially improved the way that nearly all the properties in Bethesda & Chevy Chase (and the small bits of Potomac to which the very lightest of the plan's affects apply) have been over the past 3 decades. Those improvements make purchase of the properties in wealthier areas relatively prohibitive vs. risk-adjusted return, especially for anything slap-dash. For SS, the greater availability of less improved properties, the lower acquisition cost there, generally, the plan's allowance for lot consolidation with the greater likelihood of a neighboring property being amenable to sale, the likely lower cost of pattern book adherence in those neighborhoods, and the greater willingness of buyers/renters looking in that area to live in a less-than-high-end domicile will offer substantial opportunity for greater risk-adjusted return with quick-build turnaround.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m glad we’re finally doing upzoning. For those supporting the attainable housing strategy, please consider supporting the zoning changes but opposing the proposed tax breaks. We really can’t afford them (the MCPS expansion budget is already underfunded), and they undermine planning’s assertion that infrastructure like schools will come with new housing because there won’t be enough money to pay for new schools.

You are “upzoning” on the backs of middle class and working class families who worked hard to save for a SFH and whose nest eggs are tied up in those homes. These developers are going to set up shop in Bethesda and Potomac.

Those people will all do just fine if they decide to sell their houses because their land is going to appreciate. They won’t do well if the county gives out more tax breaks to developers and makes up for it by increasing property taxes.

Only if their house is lower than the median for the area. If they have made significant improvements it won’t be enticing to a developer. Then they get to watch the value drop as the properties around them turn into rental units. So much for POC and immigrants building wealth through home ownership.

But as long as the biking whities get their cafes, who cares, right? Maybe even an independent bookstore!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://moco360.media/2024/09/04/county-to-hear-from-public-on-proposal-to-limit-single-family-zoning/?utm_source=MoCo360&utm_campaign=2a42d0fbf4-POLITICS_NEWSLETTER_09132024&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_1bbe9df5d9-2a42d0fbf4-105195105&mc_cid=2a42d0fbf4&mc_eid=d032765bbc

MoCo seeking feedback on proposal to limit single family zoning. Note dates for listening sessions.

Speak now or forever hold your peace.

Thanks for the link. You're right, I need to speak up. I will plan to go to one of the sessions to support the proposal.

If you want to live in a city, move to one. Let the rest of us enjoy the space we bought.

You bought your property. You didn't buy the neighborhood.

Complete BS to suggest there should not be any expectation related to the use of neighboring properties based on zoning at the time of purchase. There are reasonable expectations that changes to that zoning come from more standard approaches that rely more heavily on review by and input from the community.

Naked political move to achieve ends at others' expense. Following the money, ends for developers, non-resident property owners, RE agents, title companies, industry-related law firms, et al. Much more so than for those seeking a home.