Janeese Lewis George is keeping our kids safe from TURF

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:JLG's signature issue is defunding the police. It's what she ran on. It would be amazing if someone like that could get reelected, after the all the complaints we've had about out of control crime.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/...-democratic-primary/

She said the number one issue facing the city is crime, and followed it up with this:

"I supported the (Secure DC) bill and helped strengthen it. It updates our criminal code to make it easier to prosecute serious offenses like carjackings and other gun crimes. Consistently prosecuting these cases is key to making D.C. safer. We also need effective violence prevention programs, better agency coordination, a well-functioning crime lab and 911 call center, support for victims, and policies that address hunger, housing insecurity, addiction, and mental health."

She also never defunded the police, so maybe you can stop lying now? People's opinions change as more information is available to them...I know Lisa's did bc up until she decided to run she never had an issue with JLG.

JLG's primary issue is defunding the police. We're supposed to give her credit now because she failed to do the main thing she said she was going to do?

Please share where she says this is her primary issue or I'll happily report your continued misinformation

Yep, the year is 2024 now. The police have not been defunded, and her positions have shifted with more evidence. It's clearly not her primary issue, nor is it mentioned in her campaign platform.

So again, she is not defunding the police, nor has she ever.

If we're basing off recent campaign statements, you should probably research gore's stance on public safety much more recently, when she ran in 2022

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:JLG's signature issue is defunding the police. It's what she ran on. It would be amazing if someone like that could get reelected, after the all the complaints we've had about out of control crime.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/...-democratic-primary/

She said the number one issue facing the city is crime, and followed it up with this:

"I supported the (Secure DC) bill and helped strengthen it. It updates our criminal code to make it easier to prosecute serious offenses like carjackings and other gun crimes. Consistently prosecuting these cases is key to making D.C. safer. We also need effective violence prevention programs, better agency coordination, a well-functioning crime lab and 911 call center, support for victims, and policies that address hunger, housing insecurity, addiction, and mental health."

She also never defunded the police, so maybe you can stop lying now? People's opinions change as more information is available to them...I know Lisa's did bc up until she decided to run she never had an issue with JLG.

Oh you mean after Lisa Gore got in the race and started picking up steam? Yeah, now, Janeese suddenly cares about crime. Maybe we should take that with a grain of salt given her *entire* record in office.

JLG has opposed Bowser's efforts to crack down on crime at every turn. She told the Washington Post we can't arrest 17 year olds accused of murder because that would traumatize them:

Bowser proposal to toughen D.C.’s approach to crime draws resistance
Council members and others appeared to oppose the measure that would make it easier to detain youths before trial

By Emily Davies
Updated June 27, 2023 at 8:12 p.m. EDT|Published June 27, 2023 at 7:10 p.m. EDT

The D.C. mayor’s legislative proposal that would impose new penalties for gun crimes and make it easier to detain some youths awaiting trial encountered fierce resistance at a council hearing Tuesday, even as the city’s top federal prosecutor and a host of residents said the bill would help reduce violent crime in the nation’s capital.

D.C. Council member Janeese Lewis George (D-Ward 4) said the proposed legislation would be “incredibly traumatizing” to children.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/06/27/bowser-crime-bill-dc-council-opposition/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:JLG's signature issue is defunding the police. It's what she ran on. It would be amazing if someone like that could get reelected, after the all the complaints we've had about out of control crime.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/...-democratic-primary/

She said the number one issue facing the city is crime, and followed it up with this:

"I supported the (Secure DC) bill and helped strengthen it. It updates our criminal code to make it easier to prosecute serious offenses like carjackings and other gun crimes. Consistently prosecuting these cases is key to making D.C. safer. We also need effective violence prevention programs, better agency coordination, a well-functioning crime lab and 911 call center, support for victims, and policies that address hunger, housing insecurity, addiction, and mental health."

She also never defunded the police, so maybe you can stop lying now? People's opinions change as more information is available to them...I know Lisa's did bc up until she decided to run she never had an issue with JLG.

Oh you mean after Lisa Gore got in the race and started picking up steam? Yeah, now, Janeese suddenly cares about crime. Maybe we should take that with a grain of salt given her *entire* record in office.

JLG has opposed Bowser's efforts to crack down on crime at every turn. She told the Washington Post we can't arrest 17 year olds accused of murder because that would traumatize them:

Bowser proposal to toughen D.C.’s approach to crime draws resistance
Council members and others appeared to oppose the measure that would make it easier to detain youths before trial

By Emily Davies
Updated June 27, 2023 at 8:12 p.m. EDT|Published June 27, 2023 at 7:10 p.m. EDT

The D.C. mayor’s legislative proposal that would impose new penalties for gun crimes and make it easier to detain some youths awaiting trial encountered fierce resistance at a council hearing Tuesday, even as the city’s top federal prosecutor and a host of residents said the bill would help reduce violent crime in the nation’s capital.

D.C. Council member Janeese Lewis George (D-Ward 4) said the proposed legislation would be “incredibly traumatizing” to children.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/06/27/bowser-crime-bill-dc-council-opposition/

I appreciate my CMs nuance on complex issues such as crime. From an article after the (emergency) legislation passed: "Lewis George pointed to pretrial data and suggested the legislation would not substantially help reduce crime. According to a December report from the Pretrial Services Agency, 88 percent of adults released pretrial remained arrest-free over the last five years, and under 2 percent were charged with a violent offense while out.

“What happens when you’re locked up pretrial? You have the potential of losing housing. If you’re a parent, you have the potential of your children being taken from you. If you have a job, you have the potential of being fired,” Lewis George said. “All I’m asking for my colleagues to do — we can address this on a permanent basis, but the evidence does not suggest we [need to] do this on an emergency basis.”

FWIW, she also voted in favor of the "tough on crime" Secure DC bill. I'm comfortable with a CM who won't be typecast one way or another, but legislates thoughtfully. You may not, and that is your right. I think it is irresponsible to paint her as some soft on crime person when her record clearly shows otherwise.

[Anonymous]

Bowser (and the police) hate Janeese more than anyone else on the council. They see her as the most intransigent opponent of doing anything, ever, about crime.

Reminder: Bower is a liberal Democrat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bowser (and the police) hate Janeese more than anyone else on the council. They see her as the most intransigent opponent of doing anything, ever, about crime.

Reminder: Bower is a liberal Democrat.

all the more reason to support her. thanks for the advice!

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:JLG's signature issue is defunding the police. It's what she ran on. It would be amazing if someone like that could get reelected, after the all the complaints we've had about out of control crime.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/...-democratic-primary/

She said the number one issue facing the city is crime, and followed it up with this:

"I supported the (Secure DC) bill and helped strengthen it. It updates our criminal code to make it easier to prosecute serious offenses like carjackings and other gun crimes. Consistently prosecuting these cases is key to making D.C. safer. We also need effective violence prevention programs, better agency coordination, a well-functioning crime lab and 911 call center, support for victims, and policies that address hunger, housing insecurity, addiction, and mental health."

She also never defunded the police, so maybe you can stop lying now? People's opinions change as more information is available to them...I know Lisa's did bc up until she decided to run she never had an issue with JLG.

Oh you mean after Lisa Gore got in the race and started picking up steam? Yeah, now, Janeese suddenly cares about crime. Maybe we should take that with a grain of salt given her *entire* record in office.

JLG has opposed Bowser's efforts to crack down on crime at every turn. She told the Washington Post we can't arrest 17 year olds accused of murder because that would traumatize them:

Bowser proposal to toughen D.C.’s approach to crime draws resistance
Council members and others appeared to oppose the measure that would make it easier to detain youths before trial

By Emily Davies
Updated June 27, 2023 at 8:12 p.m. EDT|Published June 27, 2023 at 7:10 p.m. EDT

The D.C. mayor’s legislative proposal that would impose new penalties for gun crimes and make it easier to detain some youths awaiting trial encountered fierce resistance at a council hearing Tuesday, even as the city’s top federal prosecutor and a host of residents said the bill would help reduce violent crime in the nation’s capital.

D.C. Council member Janeese Lewis George (D-Ward 4) said the proposed legislation would be “incredibly traumatizing” to children.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/06/27/bowser-crime-bill-dc-council-opposition/

Here is a case of being misleading, though in this PP's case, he is probably just misinformed and not intentionally spreading falsehoods. George's complaint was about proposed changes to the law regarding the conditions under which juveniles can be held in detention. It has nothing to do with arrest, let alone arrest for murder. The PP is simply wrong about that. The mayor proposed changing the law to remove:

the requirement that a youth possess a firearm for the Court to determine if secure detention is appropriate for youth who commit a crime of violence or dangerous crime and restores the ability of the Court to consider whether youth charged with a crime of violence or dangerous crime are themselves at significant risk of harm such that detention is appropriate.

This is from the Mayor's press release here:

https://onse.dc.gov/release/mayor-bowser-announces-new-legislation-support-safe-and-effective-policing

Basically, any youth accused of a crime of violence could be detained. The PP is fixated on 17 year olds, but this applies to any juvenile including those much younger than 17. This has nothing to do with youths arrested while in possession of a gun because they were already eligible to be detained.

JLG's position was not that youth should never be detained, but that this was too broad and would lead to youth being detained when there were more appropriate courses of action.

I'm sure many of you would still disagree with George and take the position that any youth, regardless of age, who is accused of a "dangerous crime" (whatever that is) should be immediately sent to juvy. Fine, take that position. But just be accurate about both your and JLG's positions.

[Anonymous]

JLG suddenly talking about crime, after almost four years of silence, is a good reminder that politicians will say *anything* to keep their jobs.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:JLG's signature issue is defunding the police. It's what she ran on. It would be amazing if someone like that could get reelected, after the all the complaints we've had about out of control crime.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/...-democratic-primary/

She said the number one issue facing the city is crime, and followed it up with this:

"I supported the (Secure DC) bill and helped strengthen it. It updates our criminal code to make it easier to prosecute serious offenses like carjackings and other gun crimes. Consistently prosecuting these cases is key to making D.C. safer. We also need effective violence prevention programs, better agency coordination, a well-functioning crime lab and 911 call center, support for victims, and policies that address hunger, housing insecurity, addiction, and mental health."

She also never defunded the police, so maybe you can stop lying now? People's opinions change as more information is available to them...I know Lisa's did bc up until she decided to run she never had an issue with JLG.

Oh you mean after Lisa Gore got in the race and started picking up steam? Yeah, now, Janeese suddenly cares about crime. Maybe we should take that with a grain of salt given her *entire* record in office.

JLG has opposed Bowser's efforts to crack down on crime at every turn. She told the Washington Post we can't arrest 17 year olds accused of murder because that would traumatize them:

Bowser proposal to toughen D.C.’s approach to crime draws resistance
Council members and others appeared to oppose the measure that would make it easier to detain youths before trial

By Emily Davies
Updated June 27, 2023 at 8:12 p.m. EDT|Published June 27, 2023 at 7:10 p.m. EDT

The D.C. mayor’s legislative proposal that would impose new penalties for gun crimes and make it easier to detain some youths awaiting trial encountered fierce resistance at a council hearing Tuesday, even as the city’s top federal prosecutor and a host of residents said the bill would help reduce violent crime in the nation’s capital.

D.C. Council member Janeese Lewis George (D-Ward 4) said the proposed legislation would be “incredibly traumatizing” to children.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/06/27/bowser-crime-bill-dc-council-opposition/

Here is a case of being misleading, though in this PP's case, he is probably just misinformed and not intentionally spreading falsehoods. George's complaint was about proposed changes to the law regarding the conditions under which juveniles can be held in detention. It has nothing to do with arrest, let alone arrest for murder. The PP is simply wrong about that. The mayor proposed changing the law to remove:

the requirement that a youth possess a firearm for the Court to determine if secure detention is appropriate for youth who commit a crime of violence or dangerous crime and restores the ability of the Court to consider whether youth charged with a crime of violence or dangerous crime are themselves at significant risk of harm such that detention is appropriate.

This is from the Mayor's press release here:

https://onse.dc.gov/release/mayor-bowser-announces-new-legislation-support-safe-and-effective-policing

Basically, any youth accused of a crime of violence could be detained. The PP is fixated on 17 year olds, but this applies to any juvenile including those much younger than 17. This has nothing to do with youths arrested while in possession of a gun because they were already eligible to be detained.

JLG's position was not that youth should never be detained, but that this was too broad and would lead to youth being detained when there were more appropriate courses of action.

I'm sure many of you would still disagree with George and take the position that any youth, regardless of age, who is accused of a "dangerous crime" (whatever that is) should be immediately sent to juvy. Fine, take that position. But just be accurate about both your and JLG's positions.

Actually, you're way off base here, Jeff. Read the actual legislation.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:JLG's signature issue is defunding the police. It's what she ran on. It would be amazing if someone like that could get reelected, after the all the complaints we've had about out of control crime.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/...-democratic-primary/

She said the number one issue facing the city is crime, and followed it up with this:

"I supported the (Secure DC) bill and helped strengthen it. It updates our criminal code to make it easier to prosecute serious offenses like carjackings and other gun crimes. Consistently prosecuting these cases is key to making D.C. safer. We also need effective violence prevention programs, better agency coordination, a well-functioning crime lab and 911 call center, support for victims, and policies that address hunger, housing insecurity, addiction, and mental health."

She also never defunded the police, so maybe you can stop lying now? People's opinions change as more information is available to them...I know Lisa's did bc up until she decided to run she never had an issue with JLG.

Oh you mean after Lisa Gore got in the race and started picking up steam? Yeah, now, Janeese suddenly cares about crime. Maybe we should take that with a grain of salt given her *entire* record in office.

JLG has opposed Bowser's efforts to crack down on crime at every turn. She told the Washington Post we can't arrest 17 year olds accused of murder because that would traumatize them:

Bowser proposal to toughen D.C.’s approach to crime draws resistance
Council members and others appeared to oppose the measure that would make it easier to detain youths before trial

By Emily Davies
Updated June 27, 2023 at 8:12 p.m. EDT|Published June 27, 2023 at 7:10 p.m. EDT

The D.C. mayor’s legislative proposal that would impose new penalties for gun crimes and make it easier to detain some youths awaiting trial encountered fierce resistance at a council hearing Tuesday, even as the city’s top federal prosecutor and a host of residents said the bill would help reduce violent crime in the nation’s capital.

D.C. Council member Janeese Lewis George (D-Ward 4) said the proposed legislation would be “incredibly traumatizing” to children.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/06/27/bowser-crime-bill-dc-council-opposition/

Here is a case of being misleading, though in this PP's case, he is probably just misinformed and not intentionally spreading falsehoods. George's complaint was about proposed changes to the law regarding the conditions under which juveniles can be held in detention. It has nothing to do with arrest, let alone arrest for murder. The PP is simply wrong about that. The mayor proposed changing the law to remove:

the requirement that a youth possess a firearm for the Court to determine if secure detention is appropriate for youth who commit a crime of violence or dangerous crime and restores the ability of the Court to consider whether youth charged with a crime of violence or dangerous crime are themselves at significant risk of harm such that detention is appropriate.

This is from the Mayor's press release here:

https://onse.dc.gov/release/mayor-bowser-announces-new-legislation-support-safe-and-effective-policing

Basically, any youth accused of a crime of violence could be detained. The PP is fixated on 17 year olds, but this applies to any juvenile including those much younger than 17. This has nothing to do with youths arrested while in possession of a gun because they were already eligible to be detained.

JLG's position was not that youth should never be detained, but that this was too broad and would lead to youth being detained when there were more appropriate courses of action.

I'm sure many of you would still disagree with George and take the position that any youth, regardless of age, who is accused of a "dangerous crime" (whatever that is) should be immediately sent to juvy. Fine, take that position. But just be accurate about both your and JLG's positions.

Actually, you're way off base here, Jeff. Read the actual legislation.

Are you saying that the Mayor did not properly describe her own legislation?

[Anonymous]

The “nonsense” post that Jeff deleted wasn’t a falsehood but reality. JLG proposed an amendment to water down the Secure DC bill and raise the threshold for felony shoplifting from $500 (where it was in the draft version of the bill) to $1000. The amendment passed. Her justification was that prosecuting shoplifting would lead to mass incarceration. She isn’t a crime fighter but a crime promoter.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:The “nonsense” post that Jeff deleted wasn’t a falsehood but reality. JLG proposed an amendment to water down the Secure DC bill and raise the threshold for felony shoplifting from $500 (where it was in the draft version of the bill) to $1000. The amendment passed. Her justification was that prosecuting shoplifting would lead to mass incarceration. She isn’t a crime fighter but a crime promoter.

That's not a post that I deleted.

Edit: Correction, I deleted the post that that post quoted. That's why I deleted it as well. I didn't delete that post because of its own content.

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That's her flyer. She is keeping kids SAFE! By halting installation of TURF at Lafayette Elementary.

Turf.

The city counsel is a clown show.

She's gonna cruise to victory. Get over it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:JLG's signature issue is defunding the police. It's what she ran on. It would be amazing if someone like that could get reelected, after the all the complaints we've had about out of control crime.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/...-democratic-primary/

She said the number one issue facing the city is crime, and followed it up with this:

"I supported the (Secure DC) bill and helped strengthen it. It updates our criminal code to make it easier to prosecute serious offenses like carjackings and other gun crimes. Consistently prosecuting these cases is key to making D.C. safer. We also need effective violence prevention programs, better agency coordination, a well-functioning crime lab and 911 call center, support for victims, and policies that address hunger, housing insecurity, addiction, and mental health."

She also never defunded the police, so maybe you can stop lying now? People's opinions change as more information is available to them...I know Lisa's did bc up until she decided to run she never had an issue with JLG.

JLG's primary issue is defunding the police. We're supposed to give her credit now because she failed to do the main thing she said she was going to do?

Please share where she says this is her primary issue or I'll happily report your continued misinformation

Yep, the year is 2024 now. The police have not been defunded, and her positions have shifted with more evidence. It's clearly not her primary issue, nor is it mentioned in her campaign platform.

So again, she is not defunding the police, nor has she ever.

If we're basing off recent campaign statements, you should probably research gore's stance on public safety much more recently, when she ran in 2022

The fact that she was unsuccessful at achieving her campaign promise to defund the police is not a feather in her cap. But I appreciate the attempt to try to positively spins this for her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's her flyer. She is keeping kids SAFE! By halting installation of TURF at Lafayette Elementary.

Turf.

The city counsel is a clown show.

She's gonna cruise to victory. Get over it.

Since when is incumbent Democrat winning in DC supposed to be something special?