Angie Harmon's dog shot and killed by Instacart shopper

[Anonymous]

I knew her story was fishy from the moment I read it. Obviously the Instacart shopper felt threatened in some way by her dog. Why was her dog loose in the first place when she was expecting a delivery? No sympathy from me. I wish pet owners would do better to keep their freaking dogs away from other people who may not like or be scared of dogs. So annoying!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well the insta cart shopper has been fired. So the dog owner has her "justice".

He should sue for unlawful termination. All he did was defend himself in a dangerous situation. If the authorities found no cause to press charges, there is no justification for terminating him.

He was not legally authorized to work for Instacart, took on (bought, stole?) another person's account. People do this to bypass background checks because they would not qualify otherwise. The biggest takeaway from this story is these delivery drivers are actually not vetted and not safe. Get your own food!

I didn’t understand why he would use a woman’s name but this makes sense. I had no idea.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I knew her story was fishy from the moment I read it. Obviously the Instacart shopper felt threatened in some way by her dog. Why was her dog loose in the first place when she was expecting a delivery? No sympathy from me. I wish pet owners would do better to keep their freaking dogs away from other people who may not like or be scared of dogs. So annoying!

We don’t know this at all, it’s just what the man claimed. He could have been attacked, he could be a psychopath. We don’t have any idea which is the truth, and the police have to give him the benefit of the doubt understandably.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:TIL all about the "black market" for delivery service accounts. I went down the rabbit hole and I am shocked! Who knew this was even that big of a thing?

There's account selling, account stealing & selling, dormant account takeover & lockout, sub-contracting out with an account (delivery pimping, ha).

I rarely use delivery services because I hate paying the excessive fees. If you use them a lot, do you notice the delivery person isn't the one on the account?

I’ve never once paid attention to who delivers it vs who is on the account. Why would I? The whole point of a delivery is that it’s dropped off and I don’t have to have a face to face interaction.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well the insta cart shopper has been fired. So the dog owner has her "justice".

Her dog is dead. There will be no justice.

[Anonymous]

A few thoughts:

-app based food delivery seems like a terrible system for restaurants and drivers, leading to wide spread abuse
-no one should be carrying a gun while delivering food. Maybe pepper spray.
-train and restrain your animals to keep them AND OTHERS safe

This is a terrible combination of several people making bad choices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I knew her story was fishy from the moment I read it. Obviously the Instacart shopper felt threatened in some way by her dog. Why was her dog loose in the first place when she was expecting a delivery? No sympathy from me. I wish pet owners would do better to keep their freaking dogs away from other people who may not like or be scared of dogs. So annoying!

No sympathy for the dog that got shot and killed? You are a heartless 'human'

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well the insta cart shopper has been fired. So the dog owner has her "justice".

He should sue for unlawful termination. All he did was defend himself in a dangerous situation. If the authorities found no cause to press charges, there is no justification for terminating him.

Instacart drivers are not allowed to carry firearms per their rules.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A few thoughts:

-app based food delivery seems like a terrible system for restaurants and drivers, leading to wide spread abuse
-no one should be carrying a gun while delivering food. Maybe pepper spray.
-train and restrain your animals to keep them AND OTHERS safe

This is a terrible combination of several people making bad choices.

I don't get why people use them. Food arrives cold, once ours was half-eaten...You're pretty much always better off doing restaurant pick up, cheaper too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I knew her story was fishy from the moment I read it. Obviously the Instacart shopper felt threatened in some way by her dog. Why was her dog loose in the first place when she was expecting a delivery? No sympathy from me. I wish pet owners would do better to keep their freaking dogs away from other people who may not like or be scared of dogs. So annoying!

No sympathy for the dog that got shot and killed? You are a heartless 'human'

DP.

I have sympathy for the dog. I have zero sympathy for the owner. I don't carry a gun, but I would have zero problem kicking or macing a dog lunging at me. It's not the dog's fault it has an irresponsible owner, but I'd feel no guilt to protect myself. I am so tired of lazy and negligent dog owners.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:TIL all about the "black market" for delivery service accounts. I went down the rabbit hole and I am shocked! Who knew this was even that big of a thing?

There's account selling, account stealing & selling, dormant account takeover & lockout, sub-contracting out with an account (delivery pimping, ha).

I rarely use delivery services because I hate paying the excessive fees. If you use them a lot, do you notice the delivery person isn't the one on the account?

I have encountered this once with Lyft and I refused to get in the vehicle. Lyft support was helpful and told me I did the right thing.

I had someone who could not seem to get my order delivered. First she left it with a neighbor and then she returned with the wrong order. I eventually took the wrong order inside and about an hour later she showed up and was banging on my door. It was about 10:00 p.m. and I was afraid to open my door. She left after 15 minutes but she stood there for a long time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well the insta cart shopper has been fired. So the dog owner has her "justice".

He should sue for unlawful termination. All he did was defend himself in a dangerous situation. If the authorities found no cause to press charges, there is no justification for terminating him.

Instacart drivers are not allowed to carry firearms per their rules.

I believe he has been suspended not fired while the investigation continues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think anyone who shoots a little dog not actually physically on them rather than just go back to their car is deranged and is going to shoot someone eventually. The man was delivering illegally, carrying a loaded weapon to people's homes? Noooo. I keep my dog inside but there is one person more in the wrong here, and that's trigger-happy weirdo.

Finally a sensible person.

Yes, I think people should contain and control their dogs. Yes, I think Angie Harmon was a bad dog owner. But to act like going straight to SHOOTING a dog because you feel threatened is a justified action is sick.

Per Angie's version of the story there was no wound on the delivery guy. Shoot a dog if you need to get it to let go of your leg. But shooting a dog because it barked aggressively at you and got close to you? Come on people, this is not reasonable.

You think shooting at your leg or foot is reasonable? Nope. You are not required to be injured before you act in self-defense. You do not need to allow a guy to punch you before defending yourself and you don't need to allow a dog to bite you before defending yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well the insta cart shopper has been fired. So the dog owner has her "justice".

He should sue for unlawful termination. All he did was defend himself in a dangerous situation. If the authorities found no cause to press charges, there is no justification for terminating him.

Instacart drivers are not allowed to carry firearms per their rules.

I believe he has been suspended not fired while the investigation continues.

But not for shopping under someone else's accout?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well the insta cart shopper has been fired. So the dog owner has her "justice".

He should sue for unlawful termination. All he did was defend himself in a dangerous situation. If the authorities found no cause to press charges, there is no justification for terminating him.

Instacart drivers are not allowed to carry firearms per their rules.

I believe he has been suspended not fired while the investigation continues.

But not for shopping under someone else's accout?

Maybe that’s part of their investigation? LA Times:

“We were deeply saddened and disturbed to hear about this incident,” a spokesperson for the delivery and pickup service said. “We have no tolerance for violence of any kind, and the shopper account was immediately suspended from our platform. We have been in direct contact with the customer and are cooperating with law enforcement on their investigation.”