Angie Harmon's dog shot and killed by Instacart shopper

[Anonymous]

Well the insta cart shopper has been fired. So the dog owner has her "justice".

[Anonymous]

She can get another dog. Not like they are endangered or anything. I say this as a dog owner too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well the insta cart shopper has been fired. So the dog owner has her "justice".

He should sue for unlawful termination. All he did was defend himself in a dangerous situation. If the authorities found no cause to press charges, there is no justification for terminating him.

[Anonymous]

I saw her IG post last evening about it. Heartbreaking.

I will say, I have had an uptick in Instacart and DoorDashers delivering to me where the person dropping off didn't match the name/photo/gender on the account. I hate that, and from what I understand, people create accounts and get a good reputation on the account and then sell it to someone in the area who has been kicked off. Who knew that was even a freaking thing?! Like that there's a market for accounts in good standing.

I know some delivery drivers ride in pairs for safety but most of the time I can review my camera footage and see that the person got out of the driver's seat and there was no one else in the car. Shady, IMO.

I have started reporting each time the person who delivers looks nothing like the assigned delivery person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well the insta cart shopper has been fired. So the dog owner has her "justice".

He should sue for unlawful termination. All he did was defend himself in a dangerous situation. If the authorities found no cause to press charges, there is no justification for terminating him.

He was not legally authorized to work for Instacart, took on (bought, stole?) another person's account. People do this to bypass background checks because they would not qualify otherwise. The biggest takeaway from this story is these delivery drivers are actually not vetted and not safe. Get your own food!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well the insta cart shopper has been fired. So the dog owner has her "justice".

He should sue for unlawful termination. All he did was defend himself in a dangerous situation. If the authorities found no cause to press charges, there is no justification for terminating him.

He was not legally authorized to work for Instacart, took on (bought, stole?) another person's account. People do this to bypass background checks because they would not qualify otherwise. The biggest takeaway from this story is these delivery drivers are actually not vetted and not safe. Get your own food!

Ah okay, that makes sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well the insta cart shopper has been fired. So the dog owner has her "justice".

He should sue for unlawful termination. All he did was defend himself in a dangerous situation. If the authorities found no cause to press charges, there is no justification for terminating him.

He's an independent contractor, he wasn't terminated, he's just not getting future business

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well the insta cart shopper has been fired. So the dog owner has her "justice".

He should sue for unlawful termination. All he did was defend himself in a dangerous situation. If the authorities found no cause to press charges, there is no justification for terminating him.

He was not legally authorized to work for Instacart, took on (bought, stole?) another person's account. People do this to bypass background checks because they would not qualify otherwise. The biggest takeaway from this story is these delivery drivers are actually not vetted and not safe. Get your own food!

This a whole thing right now on UberEsts/Doordash/InstaCart. Venezuelan migrants are doing these jobs under the accounts of legal residents. The legal resident/citizen takes a cut of the migrants earnings. There’s even a whole ecosystem of people renting out scooters by the day so these migrants can use them to make deliveries. It’s wild.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well the insta cart shopper has been fired. So the dog owner has her "justice".

He should sue for unlawful termination. All he did was defend himself in a dangerous situation. If the authorities found no cause to press charges, there is no justification for terminating him.

He was not legally authorized to work for Instacart, took on (bought, stole?) another person's account. People do this to bypass background checks because they would not qualify otherwise. The biggest takeaway from this story is these delivery drivers are actually not vetted and not safe. Get your own food!

This a whole thing right now on UberEsts/Doordash/InstaCart. Venezuelan migrants are doing these jobs under the accounts of legal residents. The legal resident/citizen takes a cut of the migrants earnings. There’s even a whole ecosystem of people renting out scooters by the day so these migrants can use them to make deliveries. It’s wild.

This seems fine and honestly in keeping with the spirit of the whole industry. They’re independent contractors! It’s not instacart’s job to monitor how independent contractors handle their labor after all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well the insta cart shopper has been fired. So the dog owner has her "justice".

He should sue for unlawful termination. All he did was defend himself in a dangerous situation. If the authorities found no cause to press charges, there is no justification for terminating him.

Pretty sure they’re not allowed to carry guns while working

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

I feel sorry for her because I would be devastated in the same situation as any of us would - but if you know you have a delivery arriving, it is beyond foolish to leave your dog unattended in the yard.

Dogs who are incredibly sweet and loving with their people can still be very scary to strangers approaching the home because dogs are territorial and protective.

4.5 million people get bitten by dogs every year in the USA and many of them are postal workers, meter readers and delivery drivers. Half of them are kids and those kids often grow up to be afraid of dogs, all dogs.

It just isn’t good stewardship of the dog to leave them in a situation where they can have a potentially aggressive interaction with a stranger.

Sad for the dog and the family, but knowing only the facts so far presented, I can understand why law enforcement has not charged the delivery driver.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well the insta cart shopper has been fired. So the dog owner has her "justice".

He should sue for unlawful termination. All he did was defend himself in a dangerous situation. If the authorities found no cause to press charges, there is no justification for terminating him.

Pretty sure they’re not allowed to carry guns while working

Pretty sure? Can you cite to a contract that prohibits it?

North Carolina has liberal open carry and concealed carry permit laws (it’s a shall issue state and has reciprocity with many other states as well) so absent an express prohibition in the Instacart contractor agreement, there is no issue with the delivery driver having a gun on his person - if there had been, law enforcement would have cited or arrested him.

I have a sweet freckle faced border collie mix who I walk frequently in my city. I carry a large hunting knife which I would use to disembowel any dog that attacked me or my dog. You may think that is a shocking attitude, but I used to prosecute dangerous dog cases and I’ve seen animals and people seriously mauled by dogs.

Not long after I moved to my current city a middle aged woman out walking her tiny Yorkie terrier, on leash, was seriously mauled by two pit bulls who got out of their owners yard and her little dog was dismembered. When I say seriously mauled, the dogs ripped most of the muscle from both of her thighs and she is no longer able to walk - she was lucky to survive, which is only because a passing police officer stopped and beat the dogs off of her with his baton, he didn’t shoot them because he might have missed and killed her.

There are a lot of pit bull and pit bull mixes out there and they are statistically the most lethal maulers of all dog breeds, thanks to hundreds of generations of breeding for high aggression which does not go away over a few decades of people thinking they are nanny dogs and couch buddies.

I wouldn’t think twice about killing a dog that came at me or my dog, and I love dogs more than people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I really think if you have a delivery coming and your dog is loose where they are doing the delivery, this is your fault as the owner whether the dog is aggressive or not. You have to secure your dog. Unless he climbed over a fence or something to get to the dog, this is her fault.

Absolutely.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She can get another dog. Not like they are endangered or anything. I say this as a dog owner too.

Feel sorry for your pup.