Post-winter break fight at B-CC warrants comment from Jawando?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A kid who got suspended from 3 high schools has no business being at BCC. He should be in an alternative school.

What is MCPS’ policy on kids who have been kicked out of our schools? Do we just keep transferring them around?

Yes
That IS the policy.

One of the kids had an ankle monitor... It would be insane to just give him an RJ session and transfer him to a different school at this point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A kid who got suspended from 3 high schools has no business being at BCC. He should be in an alternative school.

What is MCPS’ policy on kids who have been kicked out of our schools? Do we just keep transferring them around?

Yes
That IS the policy.

One of the kids had an ankle monitor... It would be insane to just give him an RJ session and transfer him to a different school at this point.

That's what Jawando and his progressives want.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A kid who got suspended from 3 high schools has no business being at BCC. He should be in an alternative school.

What is MCPS’ policy on kids who have been kicked out of our schools? Do we just keep transferring them around?

Yes
That IS the policy.

One of the kids had an ankle monitor... It would be insane to just give him an RJ session and transfer him to a different school at this point.

The kid with the ankle monitor likely just broke the agreement with Juvenile services and will have to meet with his judge and lawyers again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I saw this posted. If accurate, this was a serious fight involving students with prior serious issues.

“In this fight, the principal was knocked to the ground. The head of security was too and was pinned against the wall. He’s pretty seriously injured. Unknown when/if he will return to school.

It’s three kids in the fight, one is notorious for starting fights in and around school and never attending class. He severely beat a football player last year on a sidewalk by the school - sent the player to the hospital.

Another with an ankle monitor has been expelled from Clarksburg, Whitman, and Blair - where he found the principal’s home address and threatened her daughter. The suspension for the students ends Monday, when they will be back.

Lots of threats of retaliation. Security is afraid, teachers are talking about leaving. It’s the backstory that no one is willing to talk about that makes this a big deal. 

Police couldn’t make it when 911 was called because they were at another emergency

Additionally, two BCC students are currently being held without bond for armed carjackings (they are 18); more than 10 have been arrested for carjacking related offenses this school year.

BCC kids were part of the looting of the Nike store on Bethesda Row. Then there was the fight after the WJ game.

Finally, a BCC security team member was severely beaten two years ago. A lot of violent crime issues. Not sure how this compares to other schools but a lot of issues and arrests in recent years.”

This is stunning. MCPS should be ashamed and embarrassed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I saw this posted. If accurate, this was a serious fight involving students with prior serious issues.

“In this fight, the principal was knocked to the ground. The head of security was too and was pinned against the wall. He’s pretty seriously injured. Unknown when/if he will return to school.

It’s three kids in the fight, one is notorious for starting fights in and around school and never attending class. He severely beat a football player last year on a sidewalk by the school - sent the player to the hospital.

Another with an ankle monitor has been expelled from Clarksburg, Whitman, and Blair - where he found the principal’s home address and threatened her daughter. The suspension for the students ends Monday, when they will be back.

Lots of threats of retaliation. Security is afraid, teachers are talking about leaving. It’s the backstory that no one is willing to talk about that makes this a big deal. 

Police couldn’t make it when 911 was called because they were at another emergency

Additionally, two BCC students are currently being held without bond for armed carjackings (they are 18); more than 10 have been arrested for carjacking related offenses this school year.

BCC kids were part of the looting of the Nike store on Bethesda Row. Then there was the fight after the WJ game.

Finally, a BCC security team member was severely beaten two years ago. A lot of violent crime issues. Not sure how this compares to other schools but a lot of issues and arrests in recent years.”

This is stunning. MCPS should be ashamed and embarrassed.

Should they??? Parents, kids, and families should be embarrassed. MCPS is just dealing with this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I saw this posted. If accurate, this was a serious fight involving students with prior serious issues.

“In this fight, the principal was knocked to the ground. The head of security was too and was pinned against the wall. He’s pretty seriously injured. Unknown when/if he will return to school.

It’s three kids in the fight, one is notorious for starting fights in and around school and never attending class. He severely beat a football player last year on a sidewalk by the school - sent the player to the hospital.

Another with an ankle monitor has been expelled from Clarksburg, Whitman, and Blair - where he found the principal’s home address and threatened her daughter. The suspension for the students ends Monday, when they will be back.

Lots of threats of retaliation. Security is afraid, teachers are talking about leaving. It’s the backstory that no one is willing to talk about that makes this a big deal. 

Police couldn’t make it when 911 was called because they were at another emergency

Additionally, two BCC students are currently being held without bond for armed carjackings (they are 18); more than 10 have been arrested for carjacking related offenses this school year.

BCC kids were part of the looting of the Nike store on Bethesda Row. Then there was the fight after the WJ game.

Finally, a BCC security team member was severely beaten two years ago. A lot of violent crime issues. Not sure how this compares to other schools but a lot of issues and arrests in recent years.”

This is stunning. MCPS should be ashamed and embarrassed.

Should they??? Parents, kids, and families should be embarrassed. MCPS is just dealing with this.

Parents, kids and families who aren’t engaged in violence want MCPS to seriously punish and hold accountable the parents, kids and families who engage in violence at schools. It is MCPS who is sitting on its hands about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A kid who got suspended from 3 high schools has no business being at BCC. He should be in an alternative school.

The alternative school (Twain) was closed in 2008:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/montgomery-to-close-full-day-program-for-emotionally-troubled-middle-high-schoolers

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A kid who got suspended from 3 high schools has no business being at BCC. He should be in an alternative school.

What is MCPS’ policy on kids who have been kicked out of our schools? Do we just keep transferring them around?

Yes
That IS the policy.

One of the kids had an ankle monitor... It would be insane to just give him an RJ session and transfer him to a different school at this point.

The kid with the ankle monitor likely just broke the agreement with Juvenile services and will have to meet with his judge and lawyers again.

And then what? Is this serial rules violator really scared about a "meeting" with juvenile services? Nothing else will happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A kid who got suspended from 3 high schools has no business being at BCC. He should be in an alternative school.

But Jawando is going to make it all better with restorative justice. Especially with the 18 year old carjackers. They just need a good old fashioned restorative circle to be seen and feel seen.

Then everything will be a-okay. Stop centering your fear of being killed, that is your white supremacy showing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is the union doing about all this?

There are plenty of good kids at BCC. What are there parents doing about all this?

I’m so sorry for the principal and the head of security. They were trying to stop this and keep kids safe. Very scary.

The police must be able to help somehow?

Honestly, this simply has to change. Laws without enforcement are no laws at all.

hahahahahahahaha the bolded. JAWANDO LEAD THE CHARGE TO REMOVE POLICE FROM SCHOOLS.

[Anonymous]

When I was in HS in another state, our compulsory education law only ran through 16. So if there were 17 and 18 year olds that truly did not want to be educated, I don’t think the school district pushed it — they got expelled or dropped out. I’m not sure that’s the right answer but it does strike me that if a 17 year old doesn’t want to be educated, shuffling him around schools probably won’t solve the problems.
For those kids that got into the fight, would be really interesting to see their grades, how many assignments they turn in, how often they are in class, etc. I’d cut them a little more slack if their teachers said these are kids that are really trying to learn. My guess is that at least for some of them, that’s not the case.
It also occurs to me that maybe the virtual academy could be used for some of these kids. If they can’t be appropriate when around other students/teachers, then a remote learning environment would seem more appropriate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^ the BCC/WJ fights have been happening for YEARS.

Our kids went to WJ (now college graduates), but there were bad fights at/after their games as well. You are naive if you think it was assaults and that it was a one-way or one-time thing

It sounds like you are not aware of the specific facts here so you should just sit down. This was discussed extensively by the families involved. It was not a figh, it was an assault. That’s based on the specific facts of this instance — I’m sure there have been fights in the past.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A kid who got suspended from 3 high schools has no business being at BCC. He should be in an alternative school.

What is MCPS’ policy on kids who have been kicked out of our schools? Do we just keep transferring them around?

Yes
That IS the policy.

One of the kids had an ankle monitor... It would be insane to just give him an RJ session and transfer him to a different school at this point.

Have you been in this area long? That is exactly what will happen. What else can MCPS do with this student?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A kid who got suspended from 3 high schools has no business being at BCC. He should be in an alternative school.

THIS. Parents should be in an uproar about these students who have multiple suspensions for dangerous behavior being allowed in mainstream public schools. Nothing will change until parents start asking hard questions, in writing and at public forums, and demanding to know why the small minority of dangerous students' rights trump the rights of other kids who are trying to learn. This is a huge reason why teachers are leaving the profession by the way.

The people who are saying there were zero fights at their high schools may be correct. However, if you went to school in the 80s or 90s or even early 2000s, understand that there has been a huge shift in how these issues are handled. Kids who didn't attend class or caused trouble, including physical alterations, were sent to other schools after the first serious offense. This has changed in the past 10 years or so and not for the better.

Seems if students engage in violence or cause disruptions to other students’ learning more than a couple times should not be moved to other schools, rather placed in online academies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ the BCC/WJ fights have been happening for YEARS.

Our kids went to WJ (now college graduates), but there were bad fights at/after their games as well. You are naive if you think it was assaults and that it was a one-way or one-time thing

It sounds like you are not aware of the specific facts here so you should just sit down. This was discussed extensively by the families involved. It was not a figh, it was an assault. That’s based on the specific facts of this instance — I’m sure there have been fights in the past.

No, it was a fight, just like in past years (according to my WJ grads who are still in touch with students currently at the school). Only difference this time? Black kids caught on camera beating up white kids