West Potomac student arrested for murder - FCPS and FCPD accused of tipping him off

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The 16 yr old's attys will make it a self defense case. The decedent and the suspect fought prior to the shooting.

Not enough facts to know for sure, but there's a good starting point for a legit self defense case. Suspect will be very lucky to get released pending trial. What a nightmare.

A good example of "nothing good happens after midnight."

In the mom's IG she refers to him and the other suspect as "my boys." I can't even imagine. He has a decent, intact family, dad is military, grandfather was Fairfax LE. I imagine they will get him a good lawyer. Wonder how he went so off the rails so young?

Probably his peer group at that high school.

What is the school like? He did not shoot someone in Alexandria, but in DC.

Why the backpack? What was he really doing there? Besides not backing down from a fight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The 16 yr old's attys will make it a self defense case. The decedent and the suspect fought prior to the shooting.

Not enough facts to know for sure, but there's a good starting point for a legit self defense case. Suspect will be very lucky to get released pending trial. What a nightmare.

A good example of "nothing good happens after midnight."

In the mom's IG she refers to him and the other suspect as "my boys." I can't even imagine. He has a decent, intact family, dad is military, grandfather was Fairfax LE. I imagine they will get him a good lawyer. Wonder how he went so off the rails so young?

Probably his peer group at that high school.

You really think enrolling this kid in a Catholic private would've meant he'd instead be on a path to Harvard? Things would probably have been even worse if he was forced to be where he didn't want to be from an early age. Where there's a will there's a way.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From the mom's post it appears that S-2 is his brother or half brother? She calls them "my boys."

Sounds like an intact family with strong male role models - military & LE - yet kid was out on U St. at 3:30 am with a gun.

It's unclear to me if the other boy has been arrested, but he has been identified.

He is a boy the family took in several years ago. Said to often be a + influence on AI's behavior/choices.

Why the backpack? Was he dealing or buying that night?

He has a good and intact family, good male role models, supportive extended family, etc. How did he go so far off the rails so young?

So he didn't live with this family for very long?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the mom's post it appears that S-2 is his brother or half brother? She calls them "my boys."

Sounds like an intact family with strong male role models - military & LE - yet kid was out on U St. at 3:30 am with a gun.

It's unclear to me if the other boy has been arrested, but he has been identified.

He is a boy the family took in several years ago. Said to often be a + influence on AI's behavior/choices.

Why the backpack? Was he dealing or buying that night?

He has a good and intact family, good male role models, supportive extended family, etc. How did he go so far off the rails so young?

How do you know the above?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the mom's post it appears that S-2 is his brother or half brother? She calls them "my boys."

Sounds like an intact family with strong male role models - military & LE - yet kid was out on U St. at 3:30 am with a gun.

It's unclear to me if the other boy has been arrested, but he has been identified.

He is a boy the family took in several years ago. Said to often be a + influence on AI's behavior/choices.

Why the backpack? Was he dealing or buying that night?

He has a good and intact family, good male role models, supportive extended family, etc. How did he go so far off the rails so young?

Way too many guns in that house, glad they had a locksafe, but was it locked and/or did they give him access to the key?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the mom's post it appears that S-2 is his brother or half brother? She calls them "my boys."

Sounds like an intact family with strong male role models - military & LE - yet kid was out on U St. at 3:30 am with a gun.

It's unclear to me if the other boy has been arrested, but he has been identified.

He is a boy the family took in several years ago. Said to often be a + influence on AI's behavior/choices.

Why the backpack? Was he dealing or buying that night?

He has a good and intact family, good male role models, supportive extended family, etc. How did he go so far off the rails so young?

Way too many guns in that house, glad they had a locksafe, but was it locked and/or did they give him access to the key?

How do you know they had a locksafe?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the mom's post it appears that S-2 is his brother or half brother? She calls them "my boys."

Sounds like an intact family with strong male role models - military & LE - yet kid was out on U St. at 3:30 am with a gun.

It's unclear to me if the other boy has been arrested, but he has been identified.

He is a boy the family took in several years ago. Said to often be a + influence on AI's behavior/choices.

Why the backpack? Was he dealing or buying that night?

He has a good and intact family, good male role models, supportive extended family, etc. How did he go so far off the rails so young?

The assumption that because this boy has a dad and grandfather that are LE/former military automatically means he has positive male role models in his is life is laughable. Do you know the rates of DV, substance abuse and other things among LE/military? Sky high!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The 16 yr old's attys will make it a self defense case. The decedent and the suspect fought prior to the shooting.

Not enough facts to know for sure, but there's a good starting point for a legit self defense case. Suspect will be very lucky to get released pending trial. What a nightmare.

A good example of "nothing good happens after midnight."

I read some of the documents, but not all, so please correct. According to a witness who was with the decedent, the decedent and the suspect fought, the suspect and his group walked away, the decedent and his group followed them (because the witness says the decedent was hard headed and wouldn't let things go) and restarted the altercation. The police version says there was plenty of opportunity for the suspect to get away. Very curious how much money the suspect's family has, because it sure looks like there is a lot there to mount a defense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the mom's post it appears that S-2 is his brother or half brother? She calls them "my boys."

Sounds like an intact family with strong male role models - military & LE - yet kid was out on U St. at 3:30 am with a gun.

It's unclear to me if the other boy has been arrested, but he has been identified.

He is a boy the family took in several years ago. Said to often be a + influence on AI's behavior/choices.

Why the backpack? Was he dealing or buying that night?

He has a good and intact family, good male role models, supportive extended family, etc. How did he go so far off the rails so young?

Way too many guns in that house, glad they had a locksafe, but was it locked and/or did they give him access to the key?

How do you know they had a locksafe?

It was in some of the documents. The way I read it they recovered 5 9mm guns plus an additional 10 guns. The document makes clear the guns were in a locksafe in the parent's bedroom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the mom's post it appears that S-2 is his brother or half brother? She calls them "my boys."

Sounds like an intact family with strong male role models - military & LE - yet kid was out on U St. at 3:30 am with a gun.

It's unclear to me if the other boy has been arrested, but he has been identified.

He is a boy the family took in several years ago. Said to often be a + influence on AI's behavior/choices.

Why the backpack? Was he dealing or buying that night?

He has a good and intact family, good male role models, supportive extended family, etc. How did he go so far off the rails so young?

So he didn't live with this family for very long?

several years

ashton was the shooter, not the other kid. ashton had an intact family with involved parents and extended family. military dad, le grandfather, loving mom.

other kid was said to be a moderating influence on ashton. obviously not enough of one on the night in question but he seems to have been more along for the ride, not the initiator/shooter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the mom's post it appears that S-2 is his brother or half brother? She calls them "my boys."

Sounds like an intact family with strong male role models - military & LE - yet kid was out on U St. at 3:30 am with a gun.

It's unclear to me if the other boy has been arrested, but he has been identified.

He is a boy the family took in several years ago. Said to often be a + influence on AI's behavior/choices.

Why the backpack? Was he dealing or buying that night?

He has a good and intact family, good male role models, supportive extended family, etc. How did he go so far off the rails so young?

posts elsewhere by those who know the family, news articles

So he didn't live with this family for very long?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the mom's post it appears that S-2 is his brother or half brother? She calls them "my boys."

Sounds like an intact family with strong male role models - military & LE - yet kid was out on U St. at 3:30 am with a gun.

It's unclear to me if the other boy has been arrested, but he has been identified.

He is a boy the family took in several years ago. Said to often be a + influence on AI's behavior/choices.

Why the backpack? Was he dealing or buying that night?

He has a good and intact family, good male role models, supportive extended family, etc. How did he go so far off the rails so young?

The assumption that because this boy has a dad and grandfather that are LE/former military automatically means he has positive male role models in his is life is laughable. Do you know the rates of DV, substance abuse and other things among LE/military? Sky high!

This was not a kid from a broken home with a dad in prison and an absent mom being raised by a young grandma in the projects like the kid killed carjacking a federal marshal a few weeks ago. Info re: his grandfather's LE career is upthread. Stable family, involved parents. Not the typical DMV "story" re: juvenile crime.

I think the dad is still military. Grandfather who was very prominent in FFX LE died a few years ago.

I still wonder what was in the backpack and how drug dealing or buying may have played a role.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the mom's post it appears that S-2 is his brother or half brother? She calls them "my boys."

Sounds like an intact family with strong male role models - military & LE - yet kid was out on U St. at 3:30 am with a gun.

It's unclear to me if the other boy has been arrested, but he has been identified.

He is a boy the family took in several years ago. Said to often be a + influence on AI's behavior/choices.

Why the backpack? Was he dealing or buying that night?

He has a good and intact family, good male role models, supportive extended family, etc. How did he go so far off the rails so young?

Way too many guns in that house, glad they had a locksafe, but was it locked and/or did they give him access to the key?

How do you know they had a locksafe?

It was in some of the documents. The way I read it they recovered 5 9mm guns plus an additional 10 guns. The document makes clear the guns were in a locksafe in the parent's bedroom.

But does not state if the safe was actually locked nor the key storage, if the kid had access to the key.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the mom's post it appears that S-2 is his brother or half brother? She calls them "my boys."

Sounds like an intact family with strong male role models - military & LE - yet kid was out on U St. at 3:30 am with a gun.

It's unclear to me if the other boy has been arrested, but he has been identified.

He is a boy the family took in several years ago. Said to often be a + influence on AI's behavior/choices.

Why the backpack? Was he dealing or buying that night?

He has a good and intact family, good male role models, supportive extended family, etc. How did he go so far off the rails so young?

Way too many guns in that house, glad they had a locksafe, but was it locked and/or did they give him access to the key?

How do you know they had a locksafe?

It was in some of the documents. The way I read it they recovered 5 9mm guns plus an additional 10 guns. The document makes clear the guns were in a locksafe in the parent's bedroom.

But does not state if the safe was actually locked nor the key storage, if the kid had access to the key.

*Or combination lock

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the mom's post it appears that S-2 is his brother or half brother? She calls them "my boys."

Sounds like an intact family with strong male role models - military & LE - yet kid was out on U St. at 3:30 am with a gun.

It's unclear to me if the other boy has been arrested, but he has been identified.

He is a boy the family took in several years ago. Said to often be a + influence on AI's behavior/choices.

Why the backpack? Was he dealing or buying that night?

He has a good and intact family, good male role models, supportive extended family, etc. How did he go so far off the rails so young?

The assumption that because this boy has a dad and grandfather that are LE/former military automatically means he has positive male role models in his is life is laughable. Do you know the rates of DV, substance abuse and other things among LE/military? Sky high!

This was not a kid from a broken home with a dad in prison and an absent mom being raised by a young grandma in the projects like the kid killed carjacking a federal marshal a few weeks ago. Info re: his grandfather's LE career is upthread. Stable family, involved parents. Not the typical DMV "story" re: juvenile crime.

I think the dad is still military. Grandfather who was very prominent in FFX LE died a few years ago.

I still wonder what was in the backpack and how drug dealing or buying may have played a role.

Having so much LE/military in his family makes it not at all surprising that he would have easy access to guns and be willing and able to use one at the slightest provocation. Toxic masculinity abounds.