DNC plans should Biden (or other D candidate) lose in 2024?

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Anonymous wrote:There won't be a DNC if Trump wins, because we won't have elections anymore. That's the point.

If the DNC feels this way as well, other leaders in the Dem party must be working behind the scenes to figure out a way to convince Biden to back out of the race so that a nominee with better odds of beating Trump can replace him. We can't be content with 50/50 odds of beating Trump.

The other nominee would be Kamala Harris. There’s absolutely no chance the sitting VP wouldn’t get the nomination if Biden dropped out unexpectedly.

If Biden dropped out, there would be a more organic primary process to determine the nominee and assuming Harris would seek the nomination, she would have to campaign to earn the nomination. There is no guarantee she would be nominated but of course it is a possibility.

Why do you want the democratic party to fracture at this perilous time?

Fracture? How? I think it's in the best interest of our country to make sure we're not on the losing end to Trump in 2024.

So having the progressives, liberals and moderates in a tug of war is the way to do that?

Oh you're working on quashing that. No Florida presidential primary for the dem presidential candidate.

How very "democratic" of you.

When was the last time an incumbent president had a serious challenger?

I don't care. If it's not a serious challenge, then let it occur.

In the modern era, there isn't a serious challenge to an incumbent president - it is a waste of time and money.

It's neat how you rationalize things based on D or R.

Good point. It's as if people think the D & R parties are irreplaceable public entities that function per some government mandated protocols. They aren't and their protocols obviously need some tweaking considering what appears will happen in 2024.

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Anonymous wrote:There won't be a DNC if Trump wins, because we won't have elections anymore. That's the point.

If the DNC feels this way as well, other leaders in the Dem party must be working behind the scenes to figure out a way to convince Biden to back out of the race so that a nominee with better odds of beating Trump can replace him. We can't be content with 50/50 odds of beating Trump.

The other nominee would be Kamala Harris. There’s absolutely no chance the sitting VP wouldn’t get the nomination if Biden dropped out unexpectedly.

If Biden dropped out, there would be a more organic primary process to determine the nominee and assuming Harris would seek the nomination, she would have to campaign to earn the nomination. There is no guarantee she would be nominated but of course it is a possibility.

Why do you want the democratic party to fracture at this perilous time?

Fracture? How? I think it's in the best interest of our country to make sure we're not on the losing end to Trump in 2024.

So having the progressives, liberals and moderates in a tug of war is the way to do that?

Oh you're working on quashing that. No Florida presidential primary for the dem presidential candidate.

How very "democratic" of you.

When was the last time an incumbent president had a serious challenger?

I don't care. If it's not a serious challenge, then let it occur.

In the modern era, there isn't a serious challenge to an incumbent president - it is a waste of time and money.

It's neat how you rationalize things based on D or R.

Good point. It's as if people think the D & R parties are irreplaceable public entities that function per some government mandated protocols. They aren't and their protocols obviously need some tweaking considering what appears will happen in 2024.

D & R should have a DNR order.

Agree that it is weird that people here seem to think these parties must be the only parties forever more. They need some shake ups.

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Anonymous wrote:There won't be a DNC if Trump wins, because we won't have elections anymore. That's the point.

If the DNC feels this way as well, other leaders in the Dem party must be working behind the scenes to figure out a way to convince Biden to back out of the race so that a nominee with better odds of beating Trump can replace him. We can't be content with 50/50 odds of beating Trump.

The other nominee would be Kamala Harris. There’s absolutely no chance the sitting VP wouldn’t get the nomination if Biden dropped out unexpectedly.

If Biden dropped out, there would be a more organic primary process to determine the nominee and assuming Harris would seek the nomination, she would have to campaign to earn the nomination. There is no guarantee she would be nominated but of course it is a possibility.

Why do you want the democratic party to fracture at this perilous time?

Fracture? How? I think it's in the best interest of our country to make sure we're not on the losing end to Trump in 2024.

So having the progressives, liberals and moderates in a tug of war is the way to do that?

Oh you're working on quashing that. No Florida presidential primary for the dem presidential candidate.

How very "democratic" of you.

When was the last time an incumbent president had a serious challenger?

I don't care. If it's not a serious challenge, then let it occur.

In the modern era, there isn't a serious challenge to an incumbent president - it is a waste of time and money.

It's neat how you rationalize things based on D or R.

Good point. It's as if people think the D & R parties are irreplaceable public entities that function per some government mandated protocols. They aren't and their protocols obviously need some tweaking considering what appears will happen in 2024.

D & R should have a DNR order.

Agree that it is weird that people here seem to think these parties must be the only parties forever more. They need some shake ups.

Why does the DNC need a shake up? What platform are they promoting that are not popular with voters? What have their candidates done to undermine our country?

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Anonymous wrote:There won't be a DNC if Trump wins, because we won't have elections anymore. That's the point.

If the DNC feels this way as well, other leaders in the Dem party must be working behind the scenes to figure out a way to convince Biden to back out of the race so that a nominee with better odds of beating Trump can replace him. We can't be content with 50/50 odds of beating Trump.

The other nominee would be Kamala Harris. There’s absolutely no chance the sitting VP wouldn’t get the nomination if Biden dropped out unexpectedly.

If Biden dropped out, there would be a more organic primary process to determine the nominee and assuming Harris would seek the nomination, she would have to campaign to earn the nomination. There is no guarantee she would be nominated but of course it is a possibility.

Why do you want the democratic party to fracture at this perilous time?

Fracture? How? I think it's in the best interest of our country to make sure we're not on the losing end to Trump in 2024.

So having the progressives, liberals and moderates in a tug of war is the way to do that?

Oh you're working on quashing that. No Florida presidential primary for the dem presidential candidate.

How very "democratic" of you.

When was the last time an incumbent president had a serious challenger?

I don't care. If it's not a serious challenge, then let it occur.

In the modern era, there isn't a serious challenge to an incumbent president - it is a waste of time and money.

It's neat how you rationalize things based on D or R.

Good point. It's as if people think the D & R parties are irreplaceable public entities that function per some government mandated protocols. They aren't and their protocols obviously need some tweaking considering what appears will happen in 2024.

D & R should have a DNR order.

Agree that it is weird that people here seem to think these parties must be the only parties forever more. They need some shake ups.

Why does the DNC need a shake up? What platform are they promoting that are not popular with voters? What have their candidates done to undermine our country?

They have become too corporate. They say nice things but the progressives in particular don’t have realistic plans. Unfettered immigration (which the GOP supports too) is hurting lower and middle class Americans. Promoting the under reporting of and ignoring crime is also hurting people. Hard to say that crime is actually down in some places. This leads to distrust in public sentiment about government services. Education with muddy assessment of student skills does not help kids get better and get ahead.

To be sure, there is some good to go along with the bad but more and more it feels like the Ds are more about the illusion of moving this country forward.

You asked specifically about the Ds, so I’ll stop there.

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Anonymous wrote:There won't be a DNC if Trump wins, because we won't have elections anymore. That's the point.

If the DNC feels this way as well, other leaders in the Dem party must be working behind the scenes to figure out a way to convince Biden to back out of the race so that a nominee with better odds of beating Trump can replace him. We can't be content with 50/50 odds of beating Trump.

The other nominee would be Kamala Harris. There’s absolutely no chance the sitting VP wouldn’t get the nomination if Biden dropped out unexpectedly.

If Biden dropped out, there would be a more organic primary process to determine the nominee and assuming Harris would seek the nomination, she would have to campaign to earn the nomination. There is no guarantee she would be nominated but of course it is a possibility.

Why do you want the democratic party to fracture at this perilous time?

Fracture? How? I think it's in the best interest of our country to make sure we're not on the losing end to Trump in 2024.

So having the progressives, liberals and moderates in a tug of war is the way to do that?

Oh you're working on quashing that. No Florida presidential primary for the dem presidential candidate.

How very "democratic" of you.

When was the last time an incumbent president had a serious challenger?

I don't care. If it's not a serious challenge, then let it occur.

In the modern era, there isn't a serious challenge to an incumbent president - it is a waste of time and money.

It's neat how you rationalize things based on D or R.

Good point. It's as if people think the D & R parties are irreplaceable public entities that function per some government mandated protocols. They aren't and their protocols obviously need some tweaking considering what appears will happen in 2024.

D & R should have a DNR order.

Agree that it is weird that people here seem to think these parties must be the only parties forever more. They need some shake ups.

Why does the DNC need a shake up? What platform are they promoting that are not popular with voters? What have their candidates done to undermine our country?

They have become too corporate. They say nice things but the progressives in particular don’t have realistic plans. Unfettered immigration (which the GOP supports too) is hurting lower and middle class Americans. Promoting the under reporting of and ignoring crime is also hurting people. Hard to say that crime is actually down in some places. This leads to distrust in public sentiment about government services. Education with muddy assessment of student skills does not help kids get better and get ahead.

To be sure, there is some good to go along with the bad but more and more it feels like the Ds are more about the illusion of moving this country forward.

You asked specifically about the Ds, so I’ll stop there.

What has the Republican Congress done to ease immigration? They block all attempts at solutions just to make sure Biden looks bad. And don’t even try to blame problems with education on Democrats. Thankfully the majority in this country see through the antics. Biden will win again.

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Anonymous wrote:There won't be a DNC if Trump wins, because we won't have elections anymore. That's the point.

If the DNC feels this way as well, other leaders in the Dem party must be working behind the scenes to figure out a way to convince Biden to back out of the race so that a nominee with better odds of beating Trump can replace him. We can't be content with 50/50 odds of beating Trump.

The other nominee would be Kamala Harris. There’s absolutely no chance the sitting VP wouldn’t get the nomination if Biden dropped out unexpectedly.

If Biden dropped out, there would be a more organic primary process to determine the nominee and assuming Harris would seek the nomination, she would have to campaign to earn the nomination. There is no guarantee she would be nominated but of course it is a possibility.

Why do you want the democratic party to fracture at this perilous time?

Fracture? How? I think it's in the best interest of our country to make sure we're not on the losing end to Trump in 2024.

So having the progressives, liberals and moderates in a tug of war is the way to do that?

Oh you're working on quashing that. No Florida presidential primary for the dem presidential candidate.

How very "democratic" of you.

When was the last time an incumbent president had a serious challenger?

I don't care. If it's not a serious challenge, then let it occur.

In the modern era, there isn't a serious challenge to an incumbent president - it is a waste of time and money.

It's neat how you rationalize things based on D or R.

Good point. It's as if people think the D & R parties are irreplaceable public entities that function per some government mandated protocols. They aren't and their protocols obviously need some tweaking considering what appears will happen in 2024.

D & R should have a DNR order.

Agree that it is weird that people here seem to think these parties must be the only parties forever more. They need some shake ups.

Why does the DNC need a shake up? What platform are they promoting that are not popular with voters? What have their candidates done to undermine our country?

The ideals of most American voters aren't what allowed for a Donald Trump presidency or a very likely 2024 match-up of two candidates that a majority of American don't even want to see on the ballots. Leadership weaknesses in our two political parties are the roots of these problems.

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If Trump wins then democracy is over so it doesn't matter what the DNC does. It really is as simple as that.

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Hint folks: When you see "Democracy", replace it with "Our policies".

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Anonymous wrote:Hint folks: When you see "Democracy", replace it with "Our policies".

No. I think democracy works quite well in the sentence as is.

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Anonymous wrote:There won't be a DNC if Trump wins, because we won't have elections anymore. That's the point.

If the DNC feels this way as well, other leaders in the Dem party must be working behind the scenes to figure out a way to convince Biden to back out of the race so that a nominee with better odds of beating Trump can replace him. We can't be content with 50/50 odds of beating Trump.

The other nominee would be Kamala Harris. There’s absolutely no chance the sitting VP wouldn’t get the nomination if Biden dropped out unexpectedly.

If Biden dropped out, there would be a more organic primary process to determine the nominee and assuming Harris would seek the nomination, she would have to campaign to earn the nomination. There is no guarantee she would be nominated but of course it is a possibility.

Why do you want the democratic party to fracture at this perilous time?

Fracture? How? I think it's in the best interest of our country to make sure we're not on the losing end to Trump in 2024.

So having the progressives, liberals and moderates in a tug of war is the way to do that?

Oh you're working on quashing that. No Florida presidential primary for the dem presidential candidate.

How very "democratic" of you.

Dean Phillips was too incompetent to get on the Florida primary ballot by the state convention which was held from Oct. 27 - 29. He launched his campaign Oct 27. Biden was approved as the only candidate Oct 29. Phillips’s campaign first reached out to the Florida Democratic Party on Nov 22. They need ten days’ notice to consider candidates, not negative 23 days.

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Anonymous wrote:If Trump wins then democracy is over so it doesn't matter what the DNC does. It really is as simple as that.

OK. Democracy is over in that scenario, what then? No, elections, etc. What do people do then?

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Anonymous wrote:There won't be a DNC if Trump wins, because we won't have elections anymore. That's the point.

If the DNC feels this way as well, other leaders in the Dem party must be working behind the scenes to figure out a way to convince Biden to back out of the race so that a nominee with better odds of beating Trump can replace him. We can't be content with 50/50 odds of beating Trump.

The other nominee would be Kamala Harris. There’s absolutely no chance the sitting VP wouldn’t get the nomination if Biden dropped out unexpectedly.

If Biden dropped out, there would be a more organic primary process to determine the nominee and assuming Harris would seek the nomination, she would have to campaign to earn the nomination. There is no guarantee she would be nominated but of course it is a possibility.

Why do you want the democratic party to fracture at this perilous time?

Fracture? How? I think it's in the best interest of our country to make sure we're not on the losing end to Trump in 2024.

So having the progressives, liberals and moderates in a tug of war is the way to do that?

Oh you're working on quashing that. No Florida presidential primary for the dem presidential candidate.

How very "democratic" of you.

Dean Phillips was too incompetent to get on the Florida primary ballot by the state convention which was held from Oct. 27 - 29. He launched his campaign Oct 27. Biden was approved as the only candidate Oct 29. Phillips’s campaign first reached out to the Florida Democratic Party on Nov 22. They need ten days’ notice to consider candidates, not negative 23 days.

These party rules and protocols sure do make a lot of sense for those rich and powerful people that determine the rules and protocols.

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Anonymous wrote:If Trump wins then democracy is over so it doesn't matter what the DNC does. It really is as simple as that.

OK. Democracy is over in that scenario, what then? No, elections, etc. What do people do then?

In reality, Ds must be OK if Trump wins, because it seems they’re lack of a plan just means status quo.

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Anonymous wrote:There won't be a DNC if Trump wins, because we won't have elections anymore. That's the point.

If the DNC feels this way as well, other leaders in the Dem party must be working behind the scenes to figure out a way to convince Biden to back out of the race so that a nominee with better odds of beating Trump can replace him. We can't be content with 50/50 odds of beating Trump.

The other nominee would be Kamala Harris. There’s absolutely no chance the sitting VP wouldn’t get the nomination if Biden dropped out unexpectedly.

If Biden dropped out, there would be a more organic primary process to determine the nominee and assuming Harris would seek the nomination, she would have to campaign to earn the nomination. There is no guarantee she would be nominated but of course it is a possibility.

Why do you want the democratic party to fracture at this perilous time?

Fracture? How? I think it's in the best interest of our country to make sure we're not on the losing end to Trump in 2024.

So having the progressives, liberals and moderates in a tug of war is the way to do that?

Oh you're working on quashing that. No Florida presidential primary for the dem presidential candidate.

How very "democratic" of you.

When was the last time an incumbent president had a serious challenger?

I don't care. If it's not a serious challenge, then let it occur.

In the modern era, there isn't a serious challenge to an incumbent president - it is a waste of time and money.

It's neat how you rationalize things based on D or R.

Good point. It's as if people think the D & R parties are irreplaceable public entities that function per some government mandated protocols. They aren't and their protocols obviously need some tweaking considering what appears will happen in 2024.

D & R should have a DNR order.

Agree that it is weird that people here seem to think these parties must be the only parties forever more. They need some shake ups.

Why does the DNC need a shake up? What platform are they promoting that are not popular with voters? What have their candidates done to undermine our country?

They have become too corporate. They say nice things but the progressives in particular don’t have realistic plans. Unfettered immigration (which the GOP supports too) is hurting lower and middle class Americans. Promoting the under reporting of and ignoring crime is also hurting people. Hard to say that crime is actually down in some places. This leads to distrust in public sentiment about government services. Education with muddy assessment of student skills does not help kids get better and get ahead.

To be sure, there is some good to go along with the bad but more and more it feels like the Ds are more about the illusion of moving this country forward.

You asked specifically about the Ds, so I’ll stop there.

What has the Republican Congress done to ease immigration? They block all attempts at solutions just to make sure Biden looks bad. And don’t even try to blame problems with education on Democrats. Thankfully the majority in this country see through the antics. Biden will win again.

The question posed was about the Dems.

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I thought I saw a headline the other day that was along the lines of Biden deciding to run or not. He needs to step down. IMO the GOP will stop focusing on Trump if he does. Otherwise, it will be Biden v. Trump 2.0 and Biden will likely lose. He "got us into war" (GOP talking point), and he's "too old" (everyone under 40). Biden will be 100% responsible for Trump burning down the country.

Too many fragile male egos around that ignore focus on the common good when the stakes are sky high. Let other GOP and Dems duke it out.