DNC plans should Biden (or other D candidate) lose in 2024?

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Anonymous wrote:There won't be a DNC if Trump wins, because we won't have elections anymore. That's the point.

If the DNC feels this way as well, other leaders in the Dem party must be working behind the scenes to figure out a way to convince Biden to back out of the race so that a nominee with better odds of beating Trump can replace him. We can't be content with 50/50 odds of beating Trump.

The other nominee would be Kamala Harris. There’s absolutely no chance the sitting VP wouldn’t get the nomination if Biden dropped out unexpectedly.

If Biden dropped out, there would be a more organic primary process to determine the nominee and assuming Harris would seek the nomination, she would have to campaign to earn the nomination. There is no guarantee she would be nominated but of course it is a possibility.

Why do you want the democratic party to fracture at this perilous time?

Fracture? How? I think it's in the best interest of our country to make sure we're not on the losing end to Trump in 2024.

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Anonymous wrote:There won't be a DNC if Trump wins, because we won't have elections anymore. That's the point.

If the DNC feels this way as well, other leaders in the Dem party must be working behind the scenes to figure out a way to convince Biden to back out of the race so that a nominee with better odds of beating Trump can replace him. We can't be content with 50/50 odds of beating Trump.

The other nominee would be Kamala Harris. There’s absolutely no chance the sitting VP wouldn’t get the nomination if Biden dropped out unexpectedly.

If Biden dropped out, there would be a more organic primary process to determine the nominee and assuming Harris would seek the nomination, she would have to campaign to earn the nomination. There is no guarantee she would be nominated but of course it is a possibility.

Why do you want the democratic party to fracture at this perilous time?

Fracture? How? I think it's in the best interest of our country to make sure we're not on the losing end to Trump in 2024.

So having the progressives, liberals and moderates in a tug of war is the way to do that?

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Anonymous wrote:There won't be a DNC if Trump wins, because we won't have elections anymore. That's the point.

If the DNC feels this way as well, other leaders in the Dem party must be working behind the scenes to figure out a way to convince Biden to back out of the race so that a nominee with better odds of beating Trump can replace him. We can't be content with 50/50 odds of beating Trump.

The other nominee would be Kamala Harris. There’s absolutely no chance the sitting VP wouldn’t get the nomination if Biden dropped out unexpectedly.

You’ve got to be joking! Who can forget how early she was forced to drop out of her last Presidential bid?

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Anonymous wrote:There won't be a DNC if Trump wins, because we won't have elections anymore. That's the point.

If the DNC feels this way as well, other leaders in the Dem party must be working behind the scenes to figure out a way to convince Biden to back out of the race so that a nominee with better odds of beating Trump can replace him. We can't be content with 50/50 odds of beating Trump.

The other nominee would be Kamala Harris. There’s absolutely no chance the sitting VP wouldn’t get the nomination if Biden dropped out unexpectedly.

If Biden dropped out, there would be a more organic primary process to determine the nominee and assuming Harris would seek the nomination, she would have to campaign to earn the nomination. There is no guarantee she would be nominated but of course it is a possibility.

Why do you want the democratic party to fracture at this perilous time?

Fracture? How? I think it's in the best interest of our country to make sure we're not on the losing end to Trump in 2024.

So having the progressives, liberals and moderates in a tug of war is the way to do that?

Some hurt feelings comes with the territory when speaking of an open primary but those feelings are erased when the end result is a nominee that is more likely to beat Trump and a president that is better suited to lead the country through 2029. If Biden had a 50% approval rating and was leading Trump by a comfortable margin in the polls, there would be no reason for Biden not to seek a second term and no reason for Dem voters to question the incumbent's status as the presumed nominee. As it stands, Biden is just as likely to lose in a match-up with Trump than he is to win.

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Anonymous wrote:There won't be a DNC if Trump wins, because we won't have elections anymore. That's the point.

If the DNC feels this way as well, other leaders in the Dem party must be working behind the scenes to figure out a way to convince Biden to back out of the race so that a nominee with better odds of beating Trump can replace him. We can't be content with 50/50 odds of beating Trump.

The other nominee would be Kamala Harris. There’s absolutely no chance the sitting VP wouldn’t get the nomination if Biden dropped out unexpectedly.

If Biden dropped out, there would be a more organic primary process to determine the nominee and assuming Harris would seek the nomination, she would have to campaign to earn the nomination. There is no guarantee she would be nominated but of course it is a possibility.

Why do you want the democratic party to fracture at this perilous time?

Fracture? How? I think it's in the best interest of our country to make sure we're not on the losing end to Trump in 2024.

So having the progressives, liberals and moderates in a tug of war is the way to do that?

Some hurt feelings comes with the territory when speaking of an open primary but those feelings are erased when the end result is a nominee that is more likely to beat Trump and a president that is better suited to lead the country through 2029. If Biden had a 50% approval rating and was leading Trump by a comfortable margin in the polls, there would be no reason for Biden not to seek a second term and no reason for Dem voters to question the incumbent's status as the presumed nominee. As it stands, Biden is just as likely to lose in a match-up with Trump than he is to win.

There is about a month until the first primary and nobody has set up a campaign organization yet. If Biden decided out of the blue that he wasn’t going to seek the nomination, the party would quickly coalesce around Kamala Harris to avoid a chaotic, unpredictable and divisive nominating process. You can think about hypothetical scenarios all you want, but this is what would happen in real life.

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Anonymous wrote:There won't be a DNC if Trump wins, because we won't have elections anymore. That's the point.

If the DNC feels this way as well, other leaders in the Dem party must be working behind the scenes to figure out a way to convince Biden to back out of the race so that a nominee with better odds of beating Trump can replace him. We can't be content with 50/50 odds of beating Trump.

The other nominee would be Kamala Harris. There’s absolutely no chance the sitting VP wouldn’t get the nomination if Biden dropped out unexpectedly.

If Biden dropped out, there would be a more organic primary process to determine the nominee and assuming Harris would seek the nomination, she would have to campaign to earn the nomination. There is no guarantee she would be nominated but of course it is a possibility.

Why do you want the democratic party to fracture at this perilous time?

Fracture? How? I think it's in the best interest of our country to make sure we're not on the losing end to Trump in 2024.

So having the progressives, liberals and moderates in a tug of war is the way to do that?

Some hurt feelings comes with the territory when speaking of an open primary but those feelings are erased when the end result is a nominee that is more likely to beat Trump and a president that is better suited to lead the country through 2029. If Biden had a 50% approval rating and was leading Trump by a comfortable margin in the polls, there would be no reason for Biden not to seek a second term and no reason for Dem voters to question the incumbent's status as the presumed nominee. As it stands, Biden is just as likely to lose in a match-up with Trump than he is to win.

There is about a month until the first primary and nobody has set up a campaign organization yet. If Biden decided out of the blue that he wasn’t going to seek the nomination, the party would quickly coalesce around Kamala Harris to avoid a chaotic, unpredictable and divisive nominating process. You can think about hypothetical scenarios all you want, but this is what would happen in real life.

Chaotic and divided beyond repair would be the scene within the Dem party and DNC if there is a loss to a candidate as flawed as Trump for the second time in three elections.

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Anonymous wrote:There won't be a DNC if Trump wins, because we won't have elections anymore. That's the point.

If the DNC feels this way as well, other leaders in the Dem party must be working behind the scenes to figure out a way to convince Biden to back out of the race so that a nominee with better odds of beating Trump can replace him. We can't be content with 50/50 odds of beating Trump.

The other nominee would be Kamala Harris. There’s absolutely no chance the sitting VP wouldn’t get the nomination if Biden dropped out unexpectedly.

If Biden dropped out, there would be a more organic primary process to determine the nominee and assuming Harris would seek the nomination, she would have to campaign to earn the nomination. There is no guarantee she would be nominated but of course it is a possibility.

Why do you want the democratic party to fracture at this perilous time?

Fracture? How? I think it's in the best interest of our country to make sure we're not on the losing end to Trump in 2024.

So having the progressives, liberals and moderates in a tug of war is the way to do that?

Some hurt feelings comes with the territory when speaking of an open primary but those feelings are erased when the end result is a nominee that is more likely to beat Trump and a president that is better suited to lead the country through 2029. If Biden had a 50% approval rating and was leading Trump by a comfortable margin in the polls, there would be no reason for Biden not to seek a second term and no reason for Dem voters to question the incumbent's status as the presumed nominee. As it stands, Biden is just as likely to lose in a match-up with Trump than he is to win.

There is about a month until the first primary and nobody has set up a campaign organization yet. If Biden decided out of the blue that he wasn’t going to seek the nomination, the party would quickly coalesce around Kamala Harris to avoid a chaotic, unpredictable and divisive nominating process. You can think about hypothetical scenarios all you want, but this is what would happen in real life.

Chaotic and divided beyond repair would be the scene within the Dem party and DNC if there is a loss to a candidate as flawed as Trump for the second time in three elections.

I’m pretty sure Democratic leaders and their gullible followers would be as unrepentant as ever. It’s not like losing to Trump once prompted a lot of introspection. If it happens again, they will flail at ‘the left’ or some crap long before they will re-examine themselves.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There won't be a DNC if Trump wins, because we won't have elections anymore. That's the point.

If the DNC feels this way as well, other leaders in the Dem party must be working behind the scenes to figure out a way to convince Biden to back out of the race so that a nominee with better odds of beating Trump can replace him. We can't be content with 50/50 odds of beating Trump.

The other nominee would be Kamala Harris. There’s absolutely no chance the sitting VP wouldn’t get the nomination if Biden dropped out unexpectedly.

If Biden dropped out, there would be a more organic primary process to determine the nominee and assuming Harris would seek the nomination, she would have to campaign to earn the nomination. There is no guarantee she would be nominated but of course it is a possibility.

Why do you want the democratic party to fracture at this perilous time?

Fracture? How? I think it's in the best interest of our country to make sure we're not on the losing end to Trump in 2024.

So having the progressives, liberals and moderates in a tug of war is the way to do that?

Some hurt feelings comes with the territory when speaking of an open primary but those feelings are erased when the end result is a nominee that is more likely to beat Trump and a president that is better suited to lead the country through 2029. If Biden had a 50% approval rating and was leading Trump by a comfortable margin in the polls, there would be no reason for Biden not to seek a second term and no reason for Dem voters to question the incumbent's status as the presumed nominee. As it stands, Biden is just as likely to lose in a match-up with Trump than he is to win.

There is about a month until the first primary and nobody has set up a campaign organization yet. If Biden decided out of the blue that he wasn’t going to seek the nomination, the party would quickly coalesce around Kamala Harris to avoid a chaotic, unpredictable and divisive nominating process. You can think about hypothetical scenarios all you want, but this is what would happen in real life.

Chaotic and divided beyond repair would be the scene within the Dem party and DNC if there is a loss to a candidate as flawed as Trump for the second time in three elections.

I’m pretty sure Democratic leaders and their gullible followers would be as unrepentant as ever. It’s not like losing to Trump once prompted a lot of introspection. If it happens again, they will flail at ‘the left’ or some crap long before they will re-examine themselves.

If by flailing you mean nominating a moderate old experienced male and winning than sure.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There won't be a DNC if Trump wins, because we won't have elections anymore. That's the point.

If the DNC feels this way as well, other leaders in the Dem party must be working behind the scenes to figure out a way to convince Biden to back out of the race so that a nominee with better odds of beating Trump can replace him. We can't be content with 50/50 odds of beating Trump.

The other nominee would be Kamala Harris. There’s absolutely no chance the sitting VP wouldn’t get the nomination if Biden dropped out unexpectedly.

If Biden dropped out, there would be a more organic primary process to determine the nominee and assuming Harris would seek the nomination, she would have to campaign to earn the nomination. There is no guarantee she would be nominated but of course it is a possibility.

Why do you want the democratic party to fracture at this perilous time?

Fracture? How? I think it's in the best interest of our country to make sure we're not on the losing end to Trump in 2024.

So having the progressives, liberals and moderates in a tug of war is the way to do that?

Oh you're working on quashing that. No Florida presidential primary for the dem presidential candidate.

How very "democratic" of you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There won't be a DNC if Trump wins, because we won't have elections anymore. That's the point.

If the DNC feels this way as well, other leaders in the Dem party must be working behind the scenes to figure out a way to convince Biden to back out of the race so that a nominee with better odds of beating Trump can replace him. We can't be content with 50/50 odds of beating Trump.

The other nominee would be Kamala Harris. There’s absolutely no chance the sitting VP wouldn’t get the nomination if Biden dropped out unexpectedly.

If Biden dropped out, there would be a more organic primary process to determine the nominee and assuming Harris would seek the nomination, she would have to campaign to earn the nomination. There is no guarantee she would be nominated but of course it is a possibility.

Why do you want the democratic party to fracture at this perilous time?

Fracture? How? I think it's in the best interest of our country to make sure we're not on the losing end to Trump in 2024.

So having the progressives, liberals and moderates in a tug of war is the way to do that?

Oh you're working on quashing that. No Florida presidential primary for the dem presidential candidate.

How very "democratic" of you.

When was the last time an incumbent president had a serious challenger?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There won't be a DNC if Trump wins, because we won't have elections anymore. That's the point.

If the DNC feels this way as well, other leaders in the Dem party must be working behind the scenes to figure out a way to convince Biden to back out of the race so that a nominee with better odds of beating Trump can replace him. We can't be content with 50/50 odds of beating Trump.

The other nominee would be Kamala Harris. There’s absolutely no chance the sitting VP wouldn’t get the nomination if Biden dropped out unexpectedly.

If Biden dropped out, there would be a more organic primary process to determine the nominee and assuming Harris would seek the nomination, she would have to campaign to earn the nomination. There is no guarantee she would be nominated but of course it is a possibility.

Why do you want the democratic party to fracture at this perilous time?

Fracture? How? I think it's in the best interest of our country to make sure we're not on the losing end to Trump in 2024.

So having the progressives, liberals and moderates in a tug of war is the way to do that?

Oh you're working on quashing that. No Florida presidential primary for the dem presidential candidate.

How very "democratic" of you.

When was the last time an incumbent president had a serious challenger?

I don't care. If it's not a serious challenge, then let it occur.

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Anonymous wrote:There won't be a DNC if Trump wins, because we won't have elections anymore. That's the point.

If the DNC feels this way as well, other leaders in the Dem party must be working behind the scenes to figure out a way to convince Biden to back out of the race so that a nominee with better odds of beating Trump can replace him. We can't be content with 50/50 odds of beating Trump.

The other nominee would be Kamala Harris. There’s absolutely no chance the sitting VP wouldn’t get the nomination if Biden dropped out unexpectedly.

If Biden dropped out, there would be a more organic primary process to determine the nominee and assuming Harris would seek the nomination, she would have to campaign to earn the nomination. There is no guarantee she would be nominated but of course it is a possibility.

Why do you want the democratic party to fracture at this perilous time?

Fracture? How? I think it's in the best interest of our country to make sure we're not on the losing end to Trump in 2024.

So having the progressives, liberals and moderates in a tug of war is the way to do that?

Oh you're working on quashing that. No Florida presidential primary for the dem presidential candidate.

How very "democratic" of you.

When was the last time an incumbent president had a serious challenger?

I don't care. If it's not a serious challenge, then let it occur.

In the modern era, there isn't a serious challenge to an incumbent president - it is a waste of time and money.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There won't be a DNC if Trump wins, because we won't have elections anymore. That's the point.

If the DNC feels this way as well, other leaders in the Dem party must be working behind the scenes to figure out a way to convince Biden to back out of the race so that a nominee with better odds of beating Trump can replace him. We can't be content with 50/50 odds of beating Trump.

The other nominee would be Kamala Harris. There’s absolutely no chance the sitting VP wouldn’t get the nomination if Biden dropped out unexpectedly.

If Biden dropped out, there would be a more organic primary process to determine the nominee and assuming Harris would seek the nomination, she would have to campaign to earn the nomination. There is no guarantee she would be nominated but of course it is a possibility.

Why do you want the democratic party to fracture at this perilous time?

Fracture? How? I think it's in the best interest of our country to make sure we're not on the losing end to Trump in 2024.

So having the progressives, liberals and moderates in a tug of war is the way to do that?

Oh you're working on quashing that. No Florida presidential primary for the dem presidential candidate.

How very "democratic" of you.

When was the last time an incumbent president had a serious challenger?

I don't care. If it's not a serious challenge, then let it occur.

In the modern era, there isn't a serious challenge to an incumbent president - it is a waste of time and money.

Previously, we didn't have an incumbent this old.

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Anonymous wrote:There won't be a DNC if Trump wins, because we won't have elections anymore. That's the point.

If the DNC feels this way as well, other leaders in the Dem party must be working behind the scenes to figure out a way to convince Biden to back out of the race so that a nominee with better odds of beating Trump can replace him. We can't be content with 50/50 odds of beating Trump.

The other nominee would be Kamala Harris. There’s absolutely no chance the sitting VP wouldn’t get the nomination if Biden dropped out unexpectedly.

If Biden dropped out, there would be a more organic primary process to determine the nominee and assuming Harris would seek the nomination, she would have to campaign to earn the nomination. There is no guarantee she would be nominated but of course it is a possibility.

Why do you want the democratic party to fracture at this perilous time?

Fracture? How? I think it's in the best interest of our country to make sure we're not on the losing end to Trump in 2024.

So having the progressives, liberals and moderates in a tug of war is the way to do that?

Some hurt feelings comes with the territory when speaking of an open primary but those feelings are erased when the end result is a nominee that is more likely to beat Trump and a president that is better suited to lead the country through 2029. If Biden had a 50% approval rating and was leading Trump by a comfortable margin in the polls, there would be no reason for Biden not to seek a second term and no reason for Dem voters to question the incumbent's status as the presumed nominee. As it stands, Biden is just as likely to lose in a match-up with Trump than he is to win.

There is about a month until the first primary and nobody has set up a campaign organization yet. If Biden decided out of the blue that he wasn’t going to seek the nomination, the party would quickly coalesce around Kamala Harris to avoid a chaotic, unpredictable and divisive nominating process. You can think about hypothetical scenarios all you want, but this is what would happen in real life.

Chaotic and divided beyond repair would be the scene within the Dem party and DNC if there is a loss to a candidate as flawed as Trump for the second time in three elections.

I’m pretty sure Democratic leaders and their gullible followers would be as unrepentant as ever. It’s not like losing to Trump once prompted a lot of introspection. If it happens again, they will flail at ‘the left’ or some crap long before they will re-examine themselves.

This is true and the GOP has the same need for introspection after nominating Trump twice already with a 3rd nomination likely. Both nominating Trump and losing to Trump are clear signs of dysfunction within the parties.

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Anonymous wrote:There won't be a DNC if Trump wins, because we won't have elections anymore. That's the point.

If the DNC feels this way as well, other leaders in the Dem party must be working behind the scenes to figure out a way to convince Biden to back out of the race so that a nominee with better odds of beating Trump can replace him. We can't be content with 50/50 odds of beating Trump.

The other nominee would be Kamala Harris. There’s absolutely no chance the sitting VP wouldn’t get the nomination if Biden dropped out unexpectedly.

If Biden dropped out, there would be a more organic primary process to determine the nominee and assuming Harris would seek the nomination, she would have to campaign to earn the nomination. There is no guarantee she would be nominated but of course it is a possibility.

Why do you want the democratic party to fracture at this perilous time?

Fracture? How? I think it's in the best interest of our country to make sure we're not on the losing end to Trump in 2024.

So having the progressives, liberals and moderates in a tug of war is the way to do that?

Oh you're working on quashing that. No Florida presidential primary for the dem presidential candidate.

How very "democratic" of you.

When was the last time an incumbent president had a serious challenger?

I don't care. If it's not a serious challenge, then let it occur.

In the modern era, there isn't a serious challenge to an incumbent president - it is a waste of time and money.

It's neat how you rationalize things based on D or R.