Why should we take in Venezuelans?
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Anonymous
The asylum game is BS. I'm an immigration attorney. I've been doing employment based for nearly 20 years. Attorneys file frivolous asylum applications when applicants have no other basis for applying for entry into the US. It is also one of the only categories that allow an individual to file for benefits after having entered without inspection (EWI, meaning entered "illegally"). In order to apply for almost any benefit you must show a lawful entry (e.g., were inspected at border). Asylum doesn't require that so thousands of applications are filed each year. While they are pending, USCIS issues the applicants a temporary work authorization card that allows them to remain in the country and work while the application is pending. Most of these cases are flimsy at best and have no true claim in asylum. My fellow attorneys, however, love it because they can charge $10K per case and make a killing off the system. Meanwhile, the asylum cases are severely backlogged. You won't see an immigration judge for at least 6-8 years, and that is fairly optimistic. but the important sell is that (a) you can remain in country without risk of deportation while case is pending; and (b) you get the EAD/work authorization. Asylum has an huge denial rate, thought that does depend on the forum. IJs in more liberal cities (SF, Seattle, etc.) grant at a higher rate, while ATL, eg, denies at around 80%. Overall, I'd say it's a 30% approval rate across the board. USCIS asylum approvals are increasing under Biden with a 40/60 rate. As an employment atty, I hate asylum. It's infuriating. My clients with valid job offers from US companies can wait up to 10 years for green card with no EAD offered while an EWI entry can be rewarded with a work authorization card from day one. And asylum cases can be filed for free by indigent applicants. It costs the government a lot of money to cover those cases. The solution? USCIS has tacked an asylum subsidy fee of $600 per employment visa case for US employers. In sum, if a US company wants to file for a foreign worker, they have to cover the costs of asylum. I am 100% opposed to the Venezuelan TPS and migrant waves. VZ leads Latin America in murder and crime rates, and we have no way of running background checks or vetting any of these individuals. These are not Mexican farm workers. In most VZ cases, they've gone without work for a long time and are likely criminals. I've never voted R in my life but VZ TPS may set me over the edge. |
Anonymous
Are you going to vote R because they have a plan to reform the asylum laws? |
Anonymous
+100000 Most informative post of all time on dcum. |
Anonymous
I will vote R because they do not want to admit the migrants in the first place and willre-institute the third country safe haven. Firstly, Dems don't even recognize a problem and that's a huge red flag for me. I'd like to see removal numbers increased (like they were under Obama) and a halt to the designation of TPS countries. TPS should not be made permanent - like in the case of El Salvador. The problem is that once they're here, we're looking at a 1% chance of them leaving. We cannot deport to VZ so will have a huge issue with these folks. Also, Dems on crime. Abysmal. I also would like |
Anonymous
Seriously! I appreciate this perspective and I think it’s pretty eye-opening (or should be) for us to know that a lot of these people streaming in are not hard working refugees looking to become (and I stress) “become” a part of our country and culture. They aren’t interested in assimilating the way our ancestors did. So, what is their future here? What is ours with them here? |
Anonymous
Kind of problematic given that these migrants at some point will have to live amongst the rest of us. |
Anonymous
This is some of the most xenophobic BS I've ever read. What are you scared of? Your ancestors were interested in assimilating? What?? The same ancestors who settled in specific geographic areas around the country where their fellow countrymen already were? Little Italy and Chinatown in every major US city are tourist attractions, but god forbid the Salvadoreans want to open a couple of shops in a strip mall geared to their community and look, that community doesn't want to assimilate. Half of the state of New Jersey says "we're Italian" because they have sauce on Sundays and eat their pasta fazool despite never having stepped foot in Italy for three generations. Ever had pierogis in Cleveland or Chicago? The United States has always been a melting pot of cultures. Keep ordering your sushi while thinking the families sending their kids to school with tamales for lunch aren't assimilating. |
Anonymous
You can contract with third countries to take them. Maybe the US will give Uganda scale that the Brits alone can't |
Anonymous
That's not how it works anymore. People like to cite immigration of the 1880s like it's the same trends as today. Firstly, it is a fact that we have huge issues with violent crime from many current groups (see MS-13, MSX3, and similar). Venezuela is of particular concern because we have no way of securing background checks. We lack the consular relationships to get these from the government, as we would with other countries, and also lack avenues for tracking/vetting. It is also true that most migrants will be dependent on public benefits and their US citizen kids will outpace other US citizens in needing public benefits, as well (medicaid, eg). To your point about assimilation, however, there was significantly more impetus to assimilate in the 19th/20th centuries than now. In fact, you could not survive in US society if you did not learn the language and fully assimilate into the culture. In 2023, it is drastically different. We offer services in dozens of languages and meet immigrants where they are. Immigrants can live their entire lives here (albeit poorly) in their native language - particularly Spanish - without having to learn English. This is a huge problem because lack of English language skills is a leading contributor to remaining impoverished and limiting career options. I see it all the time. I'm opposed to the current immigration programs that we have. Ideally, I'd love to take Switzerlands approach toward assimilation and make it a requirement that all applicants for residency/naturalization comply with US cultures and customs. There was, of course, the famous case of a Muslim applicant who was denied because she refused to shake the hand of the Swiss immigration officer, which was compulsory. She sued the government and the case was overturned. I think that's misguided progressivism. Immigrants should be required to assimilate and pass tests confirming the same. The UK has a massive problem with this issue. Of course, the vast majority of people that I work with do want to assimilate in the US, though my client base are usually college educated with either job offers or investments. But don't think that immigration of the 1800s and that of 2023 are remotely similar. |
Anonymous
Thank you for responding to PP with an educated and very level-headed response in a way I couldn’t properly articulate. - The Xenophobe |
Anonymous
What am I scared of? My safety and yours for one. I’m not talking about pizza and pierogies and people opening up shops in a strip mall. I’m talking about the safety of our own citizens when it’s very clear we don’t fully know who is coming in, from where, or their intentions. We talk about how stretched law enforcement is, courts are a mess, social services taxed. Who will ensure the safety of Americans? |
Anonymous
| PP, thank you for your posts. |
Anonymous
The foreigners that did the most damage to us were the 9/11 hijackers who came in on valid visas (tourist, business, and one student visa). Fifteen of the 19 hijackers were citizens of our "friend" Saudi Arabia. |
Anonymous
TPP is just that: temporary. It has an end. When the economy in Venezuela improves, the migrants will return to their country. |
Anonymous
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Trump was the president who said we needed to take in Venezuelans for National Security reasons. He personally deferred action on their deportation.
Do the clueless MAGA rubes not even remember this? |