Teachers not providing feedback IS a serious problem

[Anonymous]

Also often students are encouraged to meet with the teacher go over the writing in more detail and they can do that during study hall time.

[Anonymous]

I am an English teacher. I provide a ton of meaningful feedback. It’s actually the #1 reason I am thinking of leaving the profession after 18 years of successful teaching.

I agree with the parents here. Yes, written feedback is very important. That’s why I do it. Unfortunately, feedback on one set of essays can take me 30 hours. I don’t get ANY time to grade at work, so that is done in the evenings, all day Saturday, and all day Sunday. It isn’t unusual for me to work 7 10-hour days a week. This isn’t exaggeration. It’s the only way I can get that feedback to students quick enough to make it matter.

I have my own family. My own children are growing up without a mom since my head is always bent over papers for 10 months of every year. It isn’t worth it.

I’m planning on quitting. It isn’t pay or student behavior driving my decision. It’s the grading and the system’s lack of respect for my time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am an English teacher. I provide a ton of meaningful feedback. It’s actually the #1 reason I am thinking of leaving the profession after 18 years of successful teaching.

I agree with the parents here. Yes, written feedback is very important. That’s why I do it. Unfortunately, feedback on one set of essays can take me 30 hours. I don’t get ANY time to grade at work, so that is done in the evenings, all day Saturday, and all day Sunday. It isn’t unusual for me to work 7 10-hour days a week. This isn’t exaggeration. It’s the only way I can get that feedback to students quick enough to make it matter.

I have my own family. My own children are growing up without a mom since my head is always bent over papers for 10 months of every year. It isn’t worth it.

I’m planning on quitting. It isn’t pay or student behavior driving my decision. It’s the grading and the system’s lack of respect for my time.

There are some aspects I miss about teaching, but I’m so much less stressed now and my family is ecstatic to have me around.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am an English teacher. I provide a ton of meaningful feedback. It’s actually the #1 reason I am thinking of leaving the profession after 18 years of successful teaching.

I agree with the parents here. Yes, written feedback is very important. That’s why I do it. Unfortunately, feedback on one set of essays can take me 30 hours. I don’t get ANY time to grade at work, so that is done in the evenings, all day Saturday, and all day Sunday. It isn’t unusual for me to work 7 10-hour days a week. This isn’t exaggeration. It’s the only way I can get that feedback to students quick enough to make it matter.

I have my own family. My own children are growing up without a mom since my head is always bent over papers for 10 months of every year. It isn’t worth it.

I’m planning on quitting. It isn’t pay or student behavior driving my decision. It’s the grading and the system’s lack of respect for my time.

Thank you for your service. Thank you for providing real meaningful feedback. Maybe not every student learned from every comment but they learned from you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am an English teacher. I provide a ton of meaningful feedback. It’s actually the #1 reason I am thinking of leaving the profession after 18 years of successful teaching.

I agree with the parents here. Yes, written feedback is very important. That’s why I do it. Unfortunately, feedback on one set of essays can take me 30 hours. I don’t get ANY time to grade at work, so that is done in the evenings, all day Saturday, and all day Sunday. It isn’t unusual for me to work 7 10-hour days a week. This isn’t exaggeration. It’s the only way I can get that feedback to students quick enough to make it matter.

I have my own family. My own children are growing up without a mom since my head is always bent over papers for 10 months of every year. It isn’t worth it.

I’m planning on quitting. It isn’t pay or student behavior driving my decision. It’s the grading and the system’s lack of respect for my time.

Thank you for your service. Thank you for providing real meaningful feedback. Maybe not every student learned from every comment but they learned from you.

As a fellow English teacher, this is so trite. I know you mean well, but this isn’t true. And what people expect us to give up for this job (e.g. hours and hours of our own life to provide all this never-used or even looked at feedback) isn’t worth the trade off of what we lose just to be patted on the back with toss off comments that reward us for martyrdom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am an English teacher. I provide a ton of meaningful feedback. It’s actually the #1 reason I am thinking of leaving the profession after 18 years of successful teaching.

I agree with the parents here. Yes, written feedback is very important. That’s why I do it. Unfortunately, feedback on one set of essays can take me 30 hours. I don’t get ANY time to grade at work, so that is done in the evenings, all day Saturday, and all day Sunday. It isn’t unusual for me to work 7 10-hour days a week. This isn’t exaggeration. It’s the only way I can get that feedback to students quick enough to make it matter.

I have my own family. My own children are growing up without a mom since my head is always bent over papers for 10 months of every year. It isn’t worth it.

I’m planning on quitting. It isn’t pay or student behavior driving my decision. It’s the grading and the system’s lack of respect for my time.

Thank you for your service. Thank you for providing real meaningful feedback. Maybe not every student learned from every comment but they learned from you.

As a fellow English teacher, this is so trite. I know you mean well, but this isn’t true. And what people expect us to give up for this job (e.g. hours and hours of our own life to provide all this never-used or even looked at feedback) isn’t worth the trade off of what we lose just to be patted on the back with toss off comments that reward us for martyrdom.

This was my comment. I didn't mean to be trite, I was trying to express appreciation. Did all of her students read all of the comments she made and spent her own time on, all of the time? No. Did some of them read them some of the time? Yes. And some of them learned and improved.

Students now don't get any comments so when some of them go on to be teachers, comments will be an unheard of concept for them and their students. It's a difficult way to learn.

[Anonymous]

What I hate about the SOLs is that I, as an elementary teacher, have no idea what questions my students are asked. We’re not allowed to see any of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am an English teacher. I provide a ton of meaningful feedback. It’s actually the #1 reason I am thinking of leaving the profession after 18 years of successful teaching.

I agree with the parents here. Yes, written feedback is very important. That’s why I do it. Unfortunately, feedback on one set of essays can take me 30 hours. I don’t get ANY time to grade at work, so that is done in the evenings, all day Saturday, and all day Sunday. It isn’t unusual for me to work 7 10-hour days a week. This isn’t exaggeration. It’s the only way I can get that feedback to students quick enough to make it matter.

I have my own family. My own children are growing up without a mom since my head is always bent over papers for 10 months of every year. It isn’t worth it.

I’m planning on quitting. It isn’t pay or student behavior driving my decision. It’s the grading and the system’s lack of respect for my time.

But this has been your entire career so why is this year somehow different? Class sizes haven't changed. Your colleagues obviously do not grade this way. I don't get why there are teaches on here saying they are the one truly good English teacher thinking of leaving but somehow they have no actual agency to do anything through their school. They are just puppets who apparently slaved away for years while their colleages left at the bell but now due to some who knows what issue that just magically came about, because we know SOL's went away for the most part especially the writing ones, they are now ready to leave. It's all just smoke and mirrors. It's just another teacher who never did any of this work just making up stories to leave so they can feel better about themselves. If this were a real case they would be able to document how anything changed and why this year is so terrible and what they did to help make change that didn't work. Class size hasn't changed. Assessments have been less not more. SOL's less not more. Homework less not more. Everything is less.

[Anonymous]

Everything is less including their planning time. My colleagues have to fill in for each other and often weeks pass where they don’t have any planning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Everything is less including their planning time. My other colleagues have to fill in for each other and often weeks pass where they don’t have any planning.

And we have been discussing student behaviors worsening…it comes up in every post.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:One of the reasons that teachers don't give feedback anymore is due to SIS. I'm a HS teacher and also a HS parent. SIS has helped in so many ways -- students learn responsibility to monitor their grades, parents have 24/7 access to their kids' grades, teachers don't have to have "mini-conferences" (remember those?) just to tell parents that their kid is doing fine. But that means students check their SIS several times daily. Many parents do, too (ahem).

Academics devolves into a situation where the grade is the only concept that matters. It doesn't matter if you learned something, just how you are doing in SIS.

Guilty! I look at SIS A LOT! I had no idea teachers could see how much! I also have ADHD which is one of the reasons I look a lot. I often forget what it said and I have multiple kids in FCPS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of the reasons that teachers don't give feedback anymore is due to SIS. I'm a HS teacher and also a HS parent. SIS has helped in so many ways -- students learn responsibility to monitor their grades, parents have 24/7 access to their kids' grades, teachers don't have to have "mini-conferences" (remember those?) just to tell parents that their kid is doing fine. But that means students check their SIS several times daily. Many parents do, too (ahem).

Academics devolves into a situation where the grade is the only concept that matters. It doesn't matter if you learned something, just how you are doing in SIS.

Guilty! I look at SIS A LOT! I had no idea teachers could see how much! I also have ADHD which is one of the reasons I look a lot. I often forget what it said and I have multiple kids in FCPS

This is about college competition. Nothing to do with "the grade" and caring about learning less. Colleges are expensive and difficult to get into. Most people trust that their high schooler will learn something. The systems are also so confusing that it doesn't lead to anyone understanding the grading. One teacher sends out a weekly SIS statement. You'd think they'd all do it so they wouldn't get so many issues down the road, but they don't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am an English teacher. I provide a ton of meaningful feedback. It’s actually the #1 reason I am thinking of leaving the profession after 18 years of successful teaching.

I agree with the parents here. Yes, written feedback is very important. That’s why I do it. Unfortunately, feedback on one set of essays can take me 30 hours. I don’t get ANY time to grade at work, so that is done in the evenings, all day Saturday, and all day Sunday. It isn’t unusual for me to work 7 10-hour days a week. This isn’t exaggeration. It’s the only way I can get that feedback to students quick enough to make it matter.

I have my own family. My own children are growing up without a mom since my head is always bent over papers for 10 months of every year. It isn’t worth it.

I’m planning on quitting. It isn’t pay or student behavior driving my decision. It’s the grading and the system’s lack of respect for my time.

But this has been your entire career so why is this year somehow different? Class sizes haven't changed. Your colleagues obviously do not grade this way. I don't get why there are teaches on here saying they are the one truly good English teacher thinking of leaving but somehow they have no actual agency to do anything through their school. They are just puppets who apparently slaved away for years while their colleages left at the bell but now due to some who knows what issue that just magically came about, because we know SOL's went away for the most part especially the writing ones, they are now ready to leave. It's all just smoke and mirrors. It's just another teacher who never did any of this work just making up stories to leave so they can feel better about themselves. If this were a real case they would be able to document how anything changed and why this year is so terrible and what they did to help make change that didn't work. Class size hasn't changed. Assessments have been less not more. SOL's less not more. Homework less not more. Everything is less.

This is a rather nonsensical post. It appears you are questioning whether I actually work as hard as I do? You are assuming I’m some type of martyr as my coworkers leave work at the end of the day empty-handed? That couldn’t be further from the truth.

The job has gotten exponentially harder in the last five years. We now cover during our planning periods. Student behaviors take up FAR more time than they used to. We are now responsible for a lot more than we used to be.

I assume you aren’t a teacher? If you are, you would have already known this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am an English teacher. I provide a ton of meaningful feedback. It’s actually the #1 reason I am thinking of leaving the profession after 18 years of successful teaching.

I agree with the parents here. Yes, written feedback is very important. That’s why I do it. Unfortunately, feedback on one set of essays can take me 30 hours. I don’t get ANY time to grade at work, so that is done in the evenings, all day Saturday, and all day Sunday. It isn’t unusual for me to work 7 10-hour days a week. This isn’t exaggeration. It’s the only way I can get that feedback to students quick enough to make it matter.

I have my own family. My own children are growing up without a mom since my head is always bent over papers for 10 months of every year. It isn’t worth it.

I’m planning on quitting. It isn’t pay or student behavior driving my decision. It’s the grading and the system’s lack of respect for my time.

But this has been your entire career so why is this year somehow different? Class sizes haven't changed. Your colleagues obviously do not grade this way. I don't get why there are teaches on here saying they are the one truly good English teacher thinking of leaving but somehow they have no actual agency to do anything through their school. They are just puppets who apparently slaved away for years while their colleages left at the bell but now due to some who knows what issue that just magically came about, because we know SOL's went away for the most part especially the writing ones, they are now ready to leave. It's all just smoke and mirrors. It's just another teacher who never did any of this work just making up stories to leave so they can feel better about themselves. If this were a real case they would be able to document how anything changed and why this year is so terrible and what they did to help make change that didn't work. Class size hasn't changed. Assessments have been less not more. SOL's less not more. Homework less not more. Everything is less.

So confused at you thinking the writing SOL went away. It has not. Juniors took it this March and also took the new pilot one for next year which will be integrated reading and writing with nonfiction. So now we have to teach a new form of writing for the SOL. Why get on here and say stuff that’s just blatantly not true?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am an English teacher. I provide a ton of meaningful feedback. It’s actually the #1 reason I am thinking of leaving the profession after 18 years of successful teaching.

I agree with the parents here. Yes, written feedback is very important. That’s why I do it. Unfortunately, feedback on one set of essays can take me 30 hours. I don’t get ANY time to grade at work, so that is done in the evenings, all day Saturday, and all day Sunday. It isn’t unusual for me to work 7 10-hour days a week. This isn’t exaggeration. It’s the only way I can get that feedback to students quick enough to make it matter.

I have my own family. My own children are growing up without a mom since my head is always bent over papers for 10 months of every year. It isn’t worth it.

I’m planning on quitting. It isn’t pay or student behavior driving my decision. It’s the grading and the system’s lack of respect for my time.

But this has been your entire career so why is this year somehow different? Class sizes haven't changed. Your colleagues obviously do not grade this way. I don't get why there are teaches on here saying they are the one truly good English teacher thinking of leaving but somehow they have no actual agency to do anything through their school. They are just puppets who apparently slaved away for years while their colleages left at the bell but now due to some who knows what issue that just magically came about, because we know SOL's went away for the most part especially the writing ones, they are now ready to leave. It's all just smoke and mirrors. It's just another teacher who never did any of this work just making up stories to leave so they can feel better about themselves. If this were a real case they would be able to document how anything changed and why this year is so terrible and what they did to help make change that didn't work. Class size hasn't changed. Assessments have been less not more. SOL's less not more. Homework less not more. Everything is less.

So confused at you thinking the writing SOL went away. It has not. Juniors took it this March and also took the new pilot one for next year which will be integrated reading and writing with nonfiction. So now we have to teach a new form of writing for the SOL. Why get on here and say stuff that’s just blatantly not true?

Maybe they are talking about the 8th grade writing SOL?