What’s with the rise of Hispanic “white supremacists”?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why is it hard to understand? Do you know anything about the history of Latin America? The US did not have a monopoly on slavery or racial hatred or discriminatory racial caste systems. Violence by angry delusion men is not new here or there.

Seriously. The Spanish Empire did a lot of horrific stuff and was worse than the British Empire.

Neither empire was benevolent and you're ignorant if you think the British Empire was less bad. History shows no empire is ever benevolent. But frankly told, I would never want to be at the tender mercies of a Chinese empire. Would you?

No, I wouldn't either. And duh an imperialistic empire is never benevolent. But if I had to choose between the Spanish and British ones then the British one is an easy choice.

[Anonymous]

I'm confused about this thread - why do people think there are tons of Hispanic neo nazis? I thought the ones in the news were of Italian descent, based on their names. I grew up near "Little Italy." Italian people there considered themselves white and were incredibly racist.

[Anonymous]

Basically any ethnic group is going to hold some racial biases. It's just a progressive narrative that only non-hispanic white people are racist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Basically any ethnic group is going to hold some racial biases. It's just a progressive narrative that only non-hispanic white people are racist.

Yes, all people can and do hold some racial biases--but not all people belong to a racial group that holds the most power in society. That is the difference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Basically any ethnic group is going to hold some racial biases. It's just a progressive narrative that only non-hispanic white people are racist.

Meanwhile the right wing narrative has been "racism doesn't exist" "the left is just pot-stirring" yadda yadda, which then with the help of Andy Ngo and others morphed into "okay, yes, racism does exist, but it's all black-on-asian."

[Anonymous]

It was interesting: we lived near a guy (in the military, no less) who flew a large confederate flag and then had all his brown Hispanic buddies from the military come over the party. It was the weirdest thing I had ever seen, as they all apparently thought they were white, but no white person in the Klan would have thought they were white.

Some of these folks are going to get a real surprise one day.

[Anonymous]

So, is there a white purity test these days?
Who gets to decide who is white or white enough?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Basically any ethnic group is going to hold some racial biases. It's just a progressive narrative that only non-hispanic white people are racist.

Yes, all people can and do hold some racial biases--but not all people belong to a racial group that holds the most power in society. That is the difference.

DP

True.

But it’s human nature—even for those who objectively lack power or clout—to project their frustration on another group. Literally every group does this.

There are myriad cultural differences and strongly held stereotypes by Hispanics, Asians, Black Africans, Black Americans, etc. There are even more when you drill down by country of origin/ethnicity. And religion.

You are missing the very real issues if you merely focus on whites because they “hold power.” The issues transcend that sliver. Bigly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It was interesting: we lived near a guy (in the military, no less) who flew a large confederate flag and then had all his brown Hispanic buddies from the military come over the party. It was the weirdest thing I had ever seen, as they all apparently thought they were white, but no white person in the Klan would have thought they were white.

Some of these folks are going to get a real surprise one day.

You are very much mistaken about that. Latinos are just a few years away from becoming simply "white" the same as Italians/Irish. There are still racial pejoratives you can throw at Italians or Irish but they don't fall into the POC or BIPOC groups. Basically if you say the US is a white supremacist society then white Latinos are going to be a part of that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Basically any ethnic group is going to hold some racial biases. It's just a progressive narrative that only non-hispanic white people are racist.

Yes, all people can and do hold some racial biases--but not all people belong to a racial group that holds the most power in society. That is the difference.

There is a significant difference whether one is the oppressor or the oppressed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anything/anyone not having significant deep roots north of the Pyrenees, north of the alps, west of Berlin, north of the med — it’s not “white”

White is a very specific connotation.

It’s the ethno-social-cultural-racial heritage of the heart of the carolingian empire, British isles, and Scandinavia

Iberia was not part of it and 1200 years later it still shows

do you fly a swastika outside of your home? because only a true Nazi (or a simply ignorant American) can think that the only true "whites" are people with anglo-saxon-viking blood. so in your opinion Polish people or Ukranians are not white? Julius Cesar, Socrates, Alexander the Great, Lorenzo de' Medici, the Zar Nicholas II were not white? the entire Greek civilization is not a white civilization? it's funny that you talk about the "ethno-social-cultural" heritage. do you know where the words "ethno" "social" and "cultural" come from? hint: from South of the Alps

[Anonymous]

Aryan race is a nazi thing. White supremacy is more inclusive.
I win irony of the day award.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:With the caveat that I think that the notion that the US has any sizable number of white supremacists, much less Hispanic white supremacists, is a conspiracy theory unsupported by any credible data...

I would encourage you to read Latin American history. It's full of colonialism, the slave trade, and more recently, the mass emigration of actual many, many actual Nazis to South American countries. So it may actually make more sense for Latin America to have a white supremacy problem than for the US to have it. Indeed, the descendants of high ranking Nazis are largely Hispanic at this point.

so you don't read any of the DHS/FBI reports going back to the mid aughts on how the greatest terrorist threat the US faces is from within and is largely comprised of white supremacist forces?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Basically any ethnic group is going to hold some racial biases. It's just a progressive narrative that only non-hispanic white people are racist.

Yes, all people can and do hold some racial biases--but not all people belong to a racial group that holds the most power in society. That is the difference.

There is a significant difference whether one is the oppressor or the oppressed.

Using the terms oppressor or oppressed to describe vast swaths of the US population is ridiculous and why few people take DEI etc seriously anymore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It was interesting: we lived near a guy (in the military, no less) who flew a large confederate flag and then had all his brown Hispanic buddies from the military come over the party. It was the weirdest thing I had ever seen, as they all apparently thought they were white, but no white person in the Klan would have thought they were white.

Some of these folks are going to get a real surprise one day.

But we are to believe that the same groups take them in willingly