What’s with the rise of Hispanic “white supremacists”?

[Anonymous]

Calvin Coolidge must be laughing/rolling in his grave.

Is this a “senpai noticed me” kind of thing where they are hoping they’ll get acknowledged by founding stock Americans?

[Anonymous]

They think they are white. It's not that deep. They don't care if you think they are white. They are racist and white in their country of origin (or their parents' country of origin) so why not be white supremacist here?

[Anonymous]

When people have self esteem or mental health issues, they will find anything to hate other people for. They want to blame other people for their issues, and they latched onto white supremacism, a hate organization. It's like gangs, the weak and disenfranchised are easily sucked into such organizations.

and these people can legally buy guns.

[Anonymous]

With the caveat that I think that the notion that the US has any sizable number of white supremacists, much less Hispanic white supremacists, is a conspiracy theory unsupported by any credible data...

I would encourage you to read Latin American history. It's full of colonialism, the slave trade, and more recently, the mass emigration of actual many, many actual Nazis to South American countries. So it may actually make more sense for Latin America to have a white supremacy problem than for the US to have it. Indeed, the descendants of high ranking Nazis are largely Hispanic at this point.

[Anonymous]

This is an excuse/rationalization invented by the media. The DNC narrative isn't flying. Might as well try something else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When people have self esteem or mental health issues, they will find anything to hate other people for. They want to blame other people for their issues, and they latched onto white supremacism, a hate organization. It's like gangs, the weak and disenfranchised are easily sucked into such organizations.

and these people can legally buy guns.

This is not it. FYI

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:With the caveat that I think that the notion that the US has any sizable number of white supremacists, much less Hispanic white supremacists, is a conspiracy theory unsupported by any credible data...

I would encourage you to read Latin American history. It's full of colonialism, the slave trade, and more recently, the mass emigration of actual many, many actual Nazis to South American countries. So it may actually make more sense for Latin America to have a white supremacy problem than for the US to have it. Indeed, the descendants of high ranking Nazis are largely Hispanic at this point.

Do you have supporting data for the bolded? I'd be interested to see what you mean by "many, many" in terms of percentage of white Latin Americans.

Germans immigrated to Latin America at the same time they immigrated to the U.S. Some Nazis went to Latin America after the war, and some Nazis came to the U.S. after the war. But to wholesale suggest all Latin Americans of German descend are the descendants of Nazis is showing your ignorance and your personal prejudice. That's like saying all German Americans in the U.S. are the descendants of Nazis. Ridiculous and shockingly ignorant.

[Anonymous]

Some nazis did indeed move to South America but calling it a mass migration or suggesting that the numbers were anything more than a statistical anomaly is basically reading 1970s potboilers like boys from Brazil or marathon man as history.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some nazis did indeed move to South America but calling it a mass migration or suggesting that the numbers were anything more than a statistical anomaly is basically reading 1970s potboilers like boys from Brazil or marathon man as history.

That is not accurate. 2/3s of Argentine people are ethnically Italian, and while the numbers of Germans are smaller, they have entire German villages there. The traditional dish Milanesa is indistinguishable from schnitzel. Argentina is basically Italy + Germany with very little indigenous Argentine people remaining.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some nazis did indeed move to South America but calling it a mass migration or suggesting that the numbers were anything more than a statistical anomaly is basically reading 1970s potboilers like boys from Brazil or marathon man as history.

That is not accurate. 2/3s of Argentine people are ethnically Italian, and while the numbers of Germans are smaller, they have entire German villages there. The traditional dish Milanesa is indistinguishable from schnitzel. Argentina is basically Italy + Germany with very little indigenous Argentine people remaining.

It is accurate. You are conflating pre WW2 German immigration to Argentina with the movement of some nazis there post ww2. The fact that you think that the bulk of Argentina’s German community is made up of ex nazis and their descendants is astounding

[Anonymous]

Why do people think Hispanic people aren’t white? Some are, some aren’t.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some nazis did indeed move to South America but calling it a mass migration or suggesting that the numbers were anything more than a statistical anomaly is basically reading 1970s potboilers like boys from Brazil or marathon man as history.

That is not accurate. 2/3s of Argentine people are ethnically Italian, and while the numbers of Germans are smaller, they have entire German villages there. The traditional dish Milanesa is indistinguishable from schnitzel. Argentina is basically Italy + Germany with very little indigenous Argentine people remaining.

It is accurate. You are conflating pre WW2 German immigration to Argentina with the movement of some nazis there post ww2. The fact that you think that the bulk of Argentina’s German community is made up of ex nazis and their descendants is astounding

Not the bulk of it. But, there were only so many high ranking Nazis, so you can't expect 2M of them. Two things can be true at once-- that these people did flee to Latin America and their ancestors are Hispanic, and their numbers are small relative to the overall population. It's also true that many Latin American nations are majority white and of European descent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is an excuse/rationalization invented by the media. The DNC narrative isn't flying. Might as well try something else.

The media didn't invent the guy's "Right Wing Death Squad" patch. That's real. Stop saying stupid things like this, because when we see these denials and deflections onto the media and everyone else it only makes you look either clueless or like a liar.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:With the caveat that I think that the notion that the US has any sizable number of white supremacists, much less Hispanic white supremacists, is a conspiracy theory unsupported by any credible data...

I would encourage you to read Latin American history. It's full of colonialism, the slave trade, and more recently, the mass emigration of actual many, many actual Nazis to South American countries. So it may actually make more sense for Latin America to have a white supremacy problem than for the US to have it. Indeed, the descendants of high ranking Nazis are largely Hispanic at this point.

Do you have supporting data for the bolded? I'd be interested to see what you mean by "many, many" in terms of percentage of white Latin Americans.

Germans immigrated to Latin America at the same time they immigrated to the U.S. Some Nazis went to Latin America after the war, and some Nazis came to the U.S. after the war. But to wholesale suggest all Latin Americans of German descend are the descendants of Nazis is showing your ignorance and your personal prejudice. That's like saying all German Americans in the U.S. are the descendants of Nazis. Ridiculous and shockingly ignorant.

That's not what I'm saying at all. Re-read. Also, being a descendant of SS doesn't make you guilty of anything, so calm down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why do people think Hispanic people aren’t white? Some are, some aren’t.

None of them are WASPs. Also they are not regarded as white by WASPs.

They think of themselves as white but are not generally thought of as white by non-hispanic white people.