What’s with the rise of Hispanic “white supremacists”?

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Anonymous wrote:The bottom line is, this guy identified with white supremacy; he was discharged from the US Military with mental issues, and because of very lax to non-existent Texas gun laws, he was able to get guns and kill people.

Was the gun legally obtained?

When there are no laws, then yes. Doesn't it seem problematic that someone who was discharged from the US military for mental instability was able to legally obtain guns?

There are laws. A legally obtained gun in gun shop - there are rules to follow. Can you show me the paperwork please?

When one can buy a gun at a gun show without showing an ID, there are basically no rules to follow. When there are no rules to follow, anyone can get a gun and use it as they deem fit. If they are mentally unstable, then they don't care if they kill innocent, unarmed people.

Not true. I’ve been to gun shows and the dealers must run a background check before a sale and that requires an ID

In Texas, Abbott eliminated any barriers to buying guns at a gun show. And there are shows all over the state every weekend.

There is a gun show in northern Virginia almost every month. What can we do to stop them from happening? Bomb threat?

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Anonymous wrote:12:48 - They self-radicalize the same way a white teen or early 20s would - online. They get exposed to an ideology and then go way down the rabbit hole with it, and there’s an easy pipeline from semi-mainstream conservative views to serious fascist BS. I remember reading an article awhile back about a guy who created himself a brand new FB account and followed a few regular conservative pages like Fox News, Breitbart, some of the Fox hosts, Trump, etc. It didn’t take long at all for him to be served with basically White Supremecist content. That was just a thought exercise basically, now imagine if you did hold some of those views and Twitter or FB or whatever just kept feeding you more and more extremist content.

White Hispanics - of which there are A LOT in Texas in particular, mostly Mexicans - are basically indistinguishable from white Americans of European descent. As can be some South American immigrants. My boss at my first job for example was Peruvian and I was “darker” than her and I’m mostly Eastern European and Italian in heritage. Many of these Mexican-Americans have been in the US for many generations and it’s a different type of culture than Hispanics/Latinos in other parts of the country who tend to be somewhat newer immigrants from Caribbean and other Central American countries. Anyway - no doubt this shooter saw himself as white. In Texas, the people he interacted with probably saw him as white too.

It doesn’t always make logical sense, but he was so radicalized that it’s past being logical. Maybe the old KKK wouldn’t accept a white Mexican-American white supremecist, but the online WS/“alt-right”/men’s rights type of spaces don’t really care.

Sounds like propagandists of "white supremacy plague" are twisting themselves into pretzels to support their propaganda of "violent white supremacy thugs" exterminating minorities. It sounds so desperate to use this case as white supremacy that it literally resembles an old SNL skit of a blind AA guy joining KKK, because he can't see he is black.

The old way of thinking about right wing violent extremists - like, KKK, Neo-Nazi, racial purity type stuff - doesn’t apply anymore IMO. There was a time when they were all white but that time has passed. It’s a meeting of a whole bunch of online movements now. Men’s rights, racism, fascism, anti-LGBT especially T, gun rights, people advocating for basically a Christian theocracy in the US or whatever other liberal Democratic country they live in … it’s just a lot of stuff all loosely connected and rolled up into one movement and as long as you follow some/most of it, you’ll have a place.

He held radical political beliefs and, CRITICALLY, he also had very easy access to guns. Lots of people have these views but only in the US do they have access to military-grade weapons to carry out attacks. Basically I think this mentality is closer to ISIS and other terrorist groups which will drive a car bomb into a crowded shopping center just to kill people vs. trying to ration out, oh he’s non-white but he was still a white supremacist, how is that possible because IMO that’s not what’s going on in a lot of these cases. Some yes but it now seems to be about indiscriminate killing.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know why people think white supremacy is limited to WASPs. Spain is in Europe. People from Spain are white. Every country colonized by Spain has a white population, some of whom think they are superior to anyone darker than them.

I mean look at Fled Ted Cruz.

Spain was under Islamic rule.

One cannot be white if ruled by the Mohammadean for centuries.

It isn’t a “white supremacist” thing.

It’s about clearly defining terms with historical precision.

Not all parts of Europe are capital w white.

You can’t believe that nonsense you wrote. Spaniards are white and definitely believe in their supremacy. They conquered an entire continent with their beliefs of white supremacy. Throughout history the Spain monarchy have intermarried with the monarchies of France, Great Britain, Austria and others. Doubt those white kings and queens of the 16th through 20th century would marry non-whites. Heck, they barely tolerated the white woman with known African blood in the 21st century into their cliche.

Your argument that this was a racial hate crime sucks. You are reaching, and you know it. In order to prove this was any type of white supremacy thing you need to find evidence, research if this person left any public notes or was active in some online circles, etc. If you consider any lighter skinned person killing a darker skinned person a hate crime then what about when it's the other way around, is it ALWAYS racially motivated? No! it's the stupidity we descended into, that feeds stupid and divisive narratives used as fodder by low brow political activists.

Definitely not a hate crime - “Here’s what I think about diversity you f#cking losers.”

No signs of it all.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know why people think white supremacy is limited to WASPs. Spain is in Europe. People from Spain are white. Every country colonized by Spain has a white population, some of whom think they are superior to anyone darker than them.

I mean look at Fled Ted Cruz.

Spain was under Islamic rule.

One cannot be white if ruled by the Mohammadean for centuries.

It isn’t a “white supremacist” thing.

It’s about clearly defining terms with historical precision.

Not all parts of Europe are capital w white.

You can’t believe that nonsense you wrote. Spaniards are white and definitely believe in their supremacy. They conquered an entire continent with their beliefs of white supremacy. Throughout history the Spain monarchy have intermarried with the monarchies of France, Great Britain, Austria and others. Doubt those white kings and queens of the 16th through 20th century would marry non-whites. Heck, they barely tolerated the white woman with known African blood in the 21st century into their cliche.

Your argument that this was a racial hate crime sucks. You are reaching, and you know it. In order to prove this was any type of white supremacy thing you need to find evidence, research if this person left any public notes or was active in some online circles, etc. If you consider any lighter skinned person killing a darker skinned person a hate crime then what about when it's the other way around, is it ALWAYS racially motivated? No! it's the stupidity we descended into, that feeds stupid and divisive narratives used as fodder by low brow political activists.

Definitely not a hate crime - “Here’s what I think about diversity you f#cking losers.”

No signs of it all.

No head or hands. Convenient.

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^^I think the people commenting on the shooter and white supremacy are using simplistic arguments. The above man with his nazi tattoos is probably a gang member, and those are some sort of gang insignia. Maybe he was put up to the shooting in a gang initiation ritual.


There is no society without racism. Good luck trying to pretend this is not fact.