DeSantis purging Florida universities of historically black frats & sororities?

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Schools "may not expend any state or federal funds to promote, support, or maintain any programs or campus activities that:" That means, at the very least, no use of facilities at all and it's doubtful that the organizations could be school sanctioned it probably also means that the school would lose all ability to regulate their conduct

No. It means they can charge rent--just like Fairfax County schools charges for use.

It depends on how Florida courts interpret support and maintain.

Exactly. This bill puts a target on the back of anyone who is not a racist.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:DeSantis has nothing to do with this bill.

Sure. The legislation just acts on its own..

He didnt sponsor or endorse the legislation. He is a governor.

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't this getting rid of segregation?

No, it exacerbates it because of the definitions. When traditionally white and exclusionary organizations are not subject to the law, but the black ones are, it is a problem, well a problem if you are for equity and justice for all people.

But none of them are explicitly subject to the law. It could be interpreted to include all of them or some of them, but we are just speculating right now.

It’s written intentionally vague so as to give political operatives maximum latitude to implement as they see fit. Or to scare private citizens and public citizens into a course of action because they are worried about running afoul of an ambiguously worded law.

This reminds me a lot of the abortion laws in red states that are written so ambiguously that the doctors don’t perform any abortive health care procedures because they don’t want to lose their career or freedom.

This. It’s exactly what’s happening on Florida campuses. I met a religion prof who is jut unsure of what she can say in her classes without getting on the wrong side of the thought police. She is looking to leave her position and is trying to find a different position in a different state. And Florida will be the poorer for it. People on this forum would say “she’s being paranoid. If she isn’t teaching CRT, she is fine”. But clearly she doesn’t think that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is kind of a "jump" to come to the conclusion that they are going to get rid of Black fraternities and sororities.

Yep. As usual, a total leap to judgment. The linked article - which is so poorly written I could hardly get through it - is asking whether he plans to do this. He does not. He has never suggested any such thing. The title of this thread is completely misleading, no doubt deliberately so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was not in a sorority in college but had a grandmother who started a Chi Omega chapter. DeSantis seems horribly misguided and a bigot for going after Black fraternities and sororities. He seems to be doubling down on white hegemony. It’s wrong.

Except he's not doing any of the things you so breathlessly listed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I was not in a sorority in college but had a grandmother who started a Chi Omega chapter. DeSantis seems horribly misguided and a bigot for going after Black fraternities and sororities. He seems to be doubling down on white hegemony. It’s wrong.

Except he's not doing any of the things you so breathlessly listed.

He also never said bloggers in Florida have to register, but it was widely reported he did. When he explained he had nothing to do with it, the headlines ran that he was "running away from it." He could sue them for defamation. I totally understand why he refuses to give interviews to most media outlets. They will print complete lies, because now they need to make him look worse than Trump and that's a difficult feat.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That's not what that Bill is going to do. You folks are extreme and constantly living in fear of an imaginary boogeyman. How do you make it through life pretending to be a victim all the time?

Dunno. You’re probably one of those “all lives matter” professional victims, so how does it feel to go through life pretending to be a victim?

Oh, the irony!
DP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DeSantis has nothing to do with this bill.

fAcTs dO nOt cOmPuTe with this crowd.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DeSantis has nothing to do with this bill.

Sure. The legislation just acts on its own..

He didnt sponsor or endorse the legislation. He is a governor.

Tell me you don't understand legislative politics without using the words....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DeSantis has nothing to do with this bill.

Sure. The legislation just acts on its own..

He didnt sponsor or endorse the legislation. He is a governor.

Tell me you don't understand legislative politics without using the words....

Okay genius, explain his exact role with this bill. Not what you think he WILL do, but what he has done.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here we go again.....

Someone has posted a piece from Medium, of all places, with no real news.... but is positing questions and making speculative accusations regardless of the fact that he really has no clue what he is talking about.... (and he has stated total falsehoods in his little piece)
The same DCUMer led with an inflammatory title that is FALSE.......
All the DCUM liberals get their panties in a wad because, you know, DeSantis.....

Do you ever get tired of this?

+ a million to every word. I can't even count the number of threads like this - total outrage over something that's speculative (if that) and then when the facts come to light, the pearl clutchers just do the slow fade, never acknowledging how grossly inaccurate (or flat out wrong) they were. Rinse and repeat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was not in a sorority in college but had a grandmother who started a Chi Omega chapter. DeSantis seems horribly misguided and a bigot for going after Black fraternities and sororities. He seems to be doubling down on white hegemony. It’s wrong.

Except he's not doing any of the things you so breathlessly listed.

He also never said bloggers in Florida have to register, but it was widely reported he did. When he explained he had nothing to do with it, the headlines ran that he was "running away from it." He could sue them for defamation. I totally understand why he refuses to give interviews to most media outlets. They will print complete lies, because now they need to make him look worse than Trump and that's a difficult feat.

Exactly. I hope he continues to stay above the fray and not engage with the usual outrage-mongers who would love for him to react.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was not in a sorority in college but had a grandmother who started a Chi Omega chapter. DeSantis seems horribly misguided and a bigot for going after Black fraternities and sororities. He seems to be doubling down on white hegemony. It’s wrong.

Except he's not doing any of the things you so breathlessly listed.

He also never said bloggers in Florida have to register, but it was widely reported he did. When he explained he had nothing to do with it, the headlines ran that he was "running away from it." He could sue them for defamation. I totally understand why he refuses to give interviews to most media outlets. They will print complete lies, because now they need to make him look worse than Trump and that's a difficult feat.

Exactly. I hope he continues to stay above the fray and not engage with the usual outrage-mongers who would love for him to react.

You guys said the same thing about him banning books. We’ve all seen pics of bookshelves in Florida classrooms stripped of all the terrifying books like “Neither” and books about Rosa Parks.

Your disgusting party writes these laws so cleverly and presents you your counter argument - “it’s not real!” It’s the legislative equivalent of “can’t you take a joke?” and it’s every bit as toxic and annoying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was not in a sorority in college but had a grandmother who started a Chi Omega chapter. DeSantis seems horribly misguided and a bigot for going after Black fraternities and sororities. He seems to be doubling down on white hegemony. It’s wrong.

Except he's not doing any of the things you so breathlessly listed.

He also never said bloggers in Florida have to register, but it was widely reported he did. When he explained he had nothing to do with it, the headlines ran that he was "running away from it." He could sue them for defamation. I totally understand why he refuses to give interviews to most media outlets. They will print complete lies, because now they need to make him look worse than Trump and that's a difficult feat.

Exactly. I hope he continues to stay above the fray and not engage with the usual outrage-mongers who would love for him to react.

You guys said the same thing about him banning books. We’ve all seen pics of bookshelves in Florida classrooms stripped of all the terrifying books like “Neither” and books about Rosa Parks.

Your disgusting party writes these laws so cleverly and presents you your counter argument - “it’s not real!” It’s the legislative equivalent of “can’t you take a joke?” and it’s every bit as toxic and annoying.

Post those pics here, because if you are talking about the pics I saw, it was a pic of a library being renovated that somebody posted trying to whip up outrage.
And, why do you want books with pornography available in school libraries?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was not in a sorority in college but had a grandmother who started a Chi Omega chapter. DeSantis seems horribly misguided and a bigot for going after Black fraternities and sororities. He seems to be doubling down on white hegemony. It’s wrong.

Except he's not doing any of the things you so breathlessly listed.

He also never said bloggers in Florida have to register, but it was widely reported he did. When he explained he had nothing to do with it, the headlines ran that he was "running away from it." He could sue them for defamation. I totally understand why he refuses to give interviews to most media outlets. They will print complete lies, because now they need to make him look worse than Trump and that's a difficult feat.

Exactly. I hope he continues to stay above the fray and not engage with the usual outrage-mongers who would love for him to react.

You guys said the same thing about him banning books. We’ve all seen pics of bookshelves in Florida classrooms stripped of all the terrifying books like “Neither” and books about Rosa Parks.

Your disgusting party writes these laws so cleverly and presents you your counter argument - “it’s not real!” It’s the legislative equivalent of “can’t you take a joke?” and it’s every bit as toxic and annoying.

Post those pics here, because if you are talking about the pics I saw, it was a pic of a library being renovated that somebody posted trying to whip up outrage.
And, why do you want books with pornography available in school libraries?

Youth biographies about Hank Aaron and Roberto Clememte are pornographic?