Entire Montgomery County Planning Board resigns

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just read this article:

https://montgomeryperspective.com/2022/10/13/the-tuesday-night-massacre/?fbclid=IwAR06ZpXuJK2YjxJ5p5_SSs3MILtmnHiGU4TBje92yP3FxpZc1SPUAcIY5hk&fs=e&s=cl

I didnt think it was that bad.

But the biggest thing the Anderson supporters keep downplaying was the gross sexual language he used.

If anyone in county or state government that was not one of their favorites did anything remotely similar, they would be the first ones out with the pitchforks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just read this article:

https://montgomeryperspective.com/2022/10/13/the-tuesday-night-massacre/?fbclid=IwAR06ZpXuJK2YjxJ5p5_SSs3MILtmnHiGU4TBje92yP3FxpZc1SPUAcIY5hk&fs=e&s=cl

I didnt think it was that bad.

But the biggest thing the Anderson supporters keep downplaying was the gross sexual language he used.

If anyone in county or state government that was not one of their favorites did anything remotely similar, they would be the first ones out with the pitchforks.

Yup. Always a big red flag. They never repeat the allegation but always refer to breezily to downplay it and then note that he denies it. They would never provide anyone else with that benefit.

Happy that Elrich is insisting that the investigation continues. It’s important for accountability for the people of the county to know the truth about what happened.

[Anonymous]

"Locker room talk!"

"Tell me youve never worked in a restaurant before" (????)

Etc.

Again- they would be APALLED if anyone else was accused of speaking to county employees like this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"Locker room talk!"

"Tell me youve never worked in a restaurant before" (????)

Etc.

Again- they would be APALLED if anyone else was accused of speaking to county employees like this.

First, I like how they compare it to conditions in the most notoriously abusive workplaces in America as a point of reference to claim that it wasn’t so bad. Presumably they are supposed to be “progressives” and yet they are willing to sound like conservatives and undermine important labor protections and even the #metoo ideals just to protect this one white guy. I do wonder how they have so corrupted their own ideals and what rationale they believe that to be worth it.

I would also just like to point out that downplaying the disgusting nature of the allegations is an insult to our intelligence. The article calls it “colorful language”. Here is what he allegedly said:

"The problem here is that [redacted] thinks she has a big d*** and [redacted] thinks he has a big d***. So what [redacted] needs to do is take out her big d*** and put it out on the table and measure it and [redacted] needs to take out his big d*** and put it out on the table and measure it - so this contest is over because I'm f****** sick and tired of it,"

"I am not crazy about hiring this position, but I am not going to shoot my wad all over this,"

[Anonymous]

Crazy that the Washington Times is able to most accurately and succinctly describe events.

[Anonymous]

I would also just like to point out that downplaying the disgusting nature of the allegations is an insult to our intelligence. The article calls it “colorful language”. Here is what he allegedly said:

"The problem here is that [redacted] thinks she has a big d*** and [redacted] thinks he has a big d***. So what [redacted] needs to do is take out her big d*** and put it out on the table and measure it and [redacted] needs to take out his big d*** and put it out on the table and measure it - so this contest is over because I'm f****** sick and tired of it,"

I think it's crude, but I wouldn't fire a competent employee over it, especially if the language was being used by someone who had just been subjected to a miserable and unproductive meeting with the two subjects of the comment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I would also just like to point out that downplaying the disgusting nature of the allegations is an insult to our intelligence. The article calls it “colorful language”. Here is what he allegedly said:

"The problem here is that [redacted] thinks she has a big d*** and [redacted] thinks he has a big d***. So what [redacted] needs to do is take out her big d*** and put it out on the table and measure it and [redacted] needs to take out his big d*** and put it out on the table and measure it - so this contest is over because I'm f****** sick and tired of it,"

I think it's crude, but I wouldn't fire a competent employee over it, especially if the language was being used by someone who had just been subjected to a miserable and unproductive meeting with the two subjects of the comment.

That’s the wrong standard. He should have been fired over his egregious violation of the MNCPPC zero tolerance alcohol policy that others have lost their jobs over.

What you’re doing is the classic soft bigotry of low expectations bit with an executive. Holding him to equal or lower standards than an hourly employee. The question is whether these disgusting statements in a workplace are okay because worse is said in restaurants or that this is just “colorful language” so no big deal. It’s not just crude it’s disgusting and you admit that it’s not appropriate for a workplace. Perhaps a competent worker should not be fired. But the leader of an organization should be held to a higher standard and here you are suggesting that they should be treated no different than an hourly employee. He made $215k per year, I think we should expect more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I would also just like to point out that downplaying the disgusting nature of the allegations is an insult to our intelligence. The article calls it “colorful language”. Here is what he allegedly said:

"The problem here is that [redacted] thinks she has a big d*** and [redacted] thinks he has a big d***. So what [redacted] needs to do is take out her big d*** and put it out on the table and measure it and [redacted] needs to take out his big d*** and put it out on the table and measure it - so this contest is over because I'm f****** sick and tired of it,"

I think it's crude, but I wouldn't fire a competent employee over it, especially if the language was being used by someone who had just been subjected to a miserable and unproductive meeting with the two subjects of the comment.

He was the head of an agency, not a mere employee. He broke rules repeatedly. His agency fell apart. He should have been dismissed instead of being allowed to resign.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I would also just like to point out that downplaying the disgusting nature of the allegations is an insult to our intelligence. The article calls it “colorful language”. Here is what he allegedly said:

"The problem here is that [redacted] thinks she has a big d*** and [redacted] thinks he has a big d***. So what [redacted] needs to do is take out her big d*** and put it out on the table and measure it and [redacted] needs to take out his big d*** and put it out on the table and measure it - so this contest is over because I'm f****** sick and tired of it,"

I think it's crude, but I wouldn't fire a competent employee over it, especially if the language was being used by someone who had just been subjected to a miserable and unproductive meeting with the two subjects of the comment.

He was the head of an agency, not a mere employee. He broke rules repeatedly. His agency fell apart. He should have been dismissed instead of being allowed to resign.

The is the leadership problem in the county and seemingly the willingness to give this guy a break when he was the leader and should be held to a higher standard. His “leadership” turned MNCPPC into a flaming wreck and yet people are still making excuses for him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I would also just like to point out that downplaying the disgusting nature of the allegations is an insult to our intelligence. The article calls it “colorful language”. Here is what he allegedly said:

"The problem here is that [redacted] thinks she has a big d*** and [redacted] thinks he has a big d***. So what [redacted] needs to do is take out her big d*** and put it out on the table and measure it and [redacted] needs to take out his big d*** and put it out on the table and measure it - so this contest is over because I'm f****** sick and tired of it,"

I think it's crude, but I wouldn't fire a competent employee over it, especially if the language was being used by someone who had just been subjected to a miserable and unproductive meeting with the two subjects of the comment.

He was the head of an agency, not a mere employee. He broke rules repeatedly. His agency fell apart. He should have been dismissed instead of being allowed to resign.

The is the leadership problem in the county and seemingly the willingness to give this guy a break when he was the leader and should be held to a higher standard. His “leadership” turned MNCPPC into a flaming wreck and yet people are still making excuses for him.

Meanwhile, on urbanist Twitter, the scandals never even happened. We’re going to be stuck with bad government so long as nice policy views excuse bad leadership.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I would also just like to point out that downplaying the disgusting nature of the allegations is an insult to our intelligence. The article calls it “colorful language”. Here is what he allegedly said:

"The problem here is that [redacted] thinks she has a big d*** and [redacted] thinks he has a big d***. So what [redacted] needs to do is take out her big d*** and put it out on the table and measure it and [redacted] needs to take out his big d*** and put it out on the table and measure it - so this contest is over because I'm f****** sick and tired of it,"

I think it's crude, but I wouldn't fire a competent employee over it, especially if the language was being used by someone who had just been subjected to a miserable and unproductive meeting with the two subjects of the comment.

He was the head of an agency, not a mere employee. He broke rules repeatedly. His agency fell apart. He should have been dismissed instead of being allowed to resign.

The is the leadership problem in the county and seemingly the willingness to give this guy a break when he was the leader and should be held to a higher standard. His “leadership” turned MNCPPC into a flaming wreck and yet people are still making excuses for him.

Meanwhile, on urbanist Twitter, the scandals never even happened. We’re going to be stuck with bad government so long as nice policy views excuse bad leadership.

It just exposes these people as ideological extremists. So long as the ideology is pure, everything else can and will be excused.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I would also just like to point out that downplaying the disgusting nature of the allegations is an insult to our intelligence. The article calls it “colorful language”. Here is what he allegedly said:

"The problem here is that [redacted] thinks she has a big d*** and [redacted] thinks he has a big d***. So what [redacted] needs to do is take out her big d*** and put it out on the table and measure it and [redacted] needs to take out his big d*** and put it out on the table and measure it - so this contest is over because I'm f****** sick and tired of it,"

I think it's crude, but I wouldn't fire a competent employee over it, especially if the language was being used by someone who had just been subjected to a miserable and unproductive meeting with the two subjects of the comment.

He was the head of an agency, not a mere employee. He broke rules repeatedly. His agency fell apart. He should have been dismissed instead of being allowed to resign.

The is the leadership problem in the county and seemingly the willingness to give this guy a break when he was the leader and should be held to a higher standard. His “leadership” turned MNCPPC into a flaming wreck and yet people are still making excuses for him.

Meanwhile, on urbanist Twitter, the scandals never even happened. We’re going to be stuck with bad government so long as nice policy views excuse bad leadership.

Yep.

For one- the usual suspects didnt even *mention* the scandals, until the forced mass resignation. Not a word of the house fire as it was occurring.

And now that its over, the new company line is "well whatever, just get thrive over the finish line" as if the entire process isnt entirely tainted.

We dont even know who all was in Casey's office.

Again, pretend for a second that Larry Hogan, or for that matter Marc Elrich had the bar, or the "colorful" (LOL) language. They would have demanded a beheading within hours.

But Thrive comes before all character, or so called progressivism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just read this article:

https://montgomeryperspective.com/2022/10/13/the-tuesday-night-massacre/?fbclid=IwAR06ZpXuJK2YjxJ5p5_SSs3MILtmnHiGU4TBje92yP3FxpZc1SPUAcIY5hk&fs=e&s=cl

Other idiocy in that article.

Continued dysfunction at the board might have provided an opportunity for Elrich to make a move. And he is VERY interested in Park and Planning.

I voted for Blair, whose failed campaign the author worked on, and this is an idiotic statement. Can you not imagine a reason why Elrich is interested in Parks and Planning?

Maybe because it’s vital for economic development?

Maybe because Casey Anderson used it as a political perch to basically run the organization as an opposition party against him?

Maybe because Elrich has responsibility for confirming the appointees?

Maybe because he thinks this episode has been disgraceful?

Elrich has confirmed a few people were fired/left in a disgrace.

He says all the right buzzwords to curry the votes of certain groups, but the guy is completely incompetent and his judgement is questionable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just read this article:

https://montgomeryperspective.com/2022/10/13/the-tuesday-night-massacre/?fbclid=IwAR06ZpXuJK2YjxJ5p5_SSs3MILtmnHiGU4TBje92yP3FxpZc1SPUAcIY5hk&fs=e&s=cl

Other idiocy in that article.

Continued dysfunction at the board might have provided an opportunity for Elrich to make a move. And he is VERY interested in Park and Planning.

I voted for Blair, whose failed campaign the author worked on, and this is an idiotic statement. Can you not imagine a reason why Elrich is interested in Parks and Planning?

Maybe because it’s vital for economic development?

Maybe because Casey Anderson used it as a political perch to basically run the organization as an opposition party against him?

Maybe because Elrich has responsibility for confirming the appointees?

Maybe because he thinks this episode has been disgraceful?

Elrich has confirmed a few people were fired/left in a disgrace.

He says all the right buzzwords to curry the votes of certain groups, but the guy is completely incompetent and his judgement is questionable.

What are you talking about? Parks and Planning is under the responsibility of the County Council and not the County Executive. It is not a mess that Elrich is in any way responsible for.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just read this article:

https://montgomeryperspective.com/2022/10/13/the-tuesday-night-massacre/?fbclid=IwAR06ZpXuJK2YjxJ5p5_SSs3MILtmnHiGU4TBje92yP3FxpZc1SPUAcIY5hk&fs=e&s=cl

Other idiocy in that article.

Continued dysfunction at the board might have provided an opportunity for Elrich to make a move. And he is VERY interested in Park and Planning.

I voted for Blair, whose failed campaign the author worked on, and this is an idiotic statement. Can you not imagine a reason why Elrich is interested in Parks and Planning?

Maybe because it’s vital for economic development?

Maybe because Casey Anderson used it as a political perch to basically run the organization as an opposition party against him?

Maybe because Elrich has responsibility for confirming the appointees?

Maybe because he thinks this episode has been disgraceful?

Elrich has confirmed a few people were fired/left in a disgrace.

He says all the right buzzwords to curry the votes of certain groups, but the guy is completely incompetent and his judgement is questionable.

What are you talking about? Parks and Planning is under the responsibility of the County Council and not the County Executive. It is not a mess that Elrich is in any way responsible for.

In fact, one of the few things I firmly agree with Elrich on is his opposition to the same group of insiders, and their hive mind on this. We need some diversity of thought on the board.