Less gender identity-focused private school recommendation for a non-religious family

[Anonymous]

This is silly. Im not sure why someone is being attacked because they don’t want their kids to contemplate gender identity. If they don’t want that then let them go somewhere where that’s not an issue. How does that choice adversely impact you? And by the way, schools have major issues like how they weren’t really open for the better part of 2 years…. This is a fringe issue at best.

[Anonymous]

The world is literally on fire, flooding, and ending and you’re worried about this? I don’t care how a human identifies at this point. Can they grow vegetables, forage, swim and survive.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are you scared? Your kid won't become trans if they are not trans just because it is mentioned at school a couple of times a year.

Maybe not but my 6th grader told me that 1/3 of one of his classes was gender non-conforming. This numbers do not translate to the real world.

Exactly. The explosion in kids who identify as trans is a major red flag to me. Two of the biological males in my sons pre-K class (out of 10 boys) were classified as non-binary and would alternate wearing boys and girls clothes. Sincere respect to individuals with gender dysphoria, but I believe this is harming children. Let them be kids instead of confusing them about things they do not understand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:this is so messed up. are you worried that your child will magically switch genders? Also, looking for a place that is burning all books where there may be a trans character?

Prob scared of the new bob cut, plaid shirt, black shirt sleeved sweater, baggy blank pants goth trans craze in middle school. Too cool for school.
Looks awful, such lemmings. makes me want to move to one of the 100s of countries with schools with uniforms.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Many of the fallacious claims people have made in this discussion remind me of the claims back in the 1980s that teaching students about why and how to use condoms would make them become more sexual active.

Esp for k-5. Bring it on! All the genders and all the types of sexual activities.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry. Your crazy rhetoric about “less gender identity focused private schools” puts you squarely in Catholic and Evangelical schools. None of the top tier privates believe in the GOP talking points about indoctrination.

Not OP but I will bite. Not every 6th or 7th grader is prepared to state or contemplate their gender identity. Love our non-Catholic all girl's school in so many ways, but have not loved my child being pushed to contemplate this at such a young age. Not sure if this is the concern that OP has, but my kid and some of her friends were very stressed by the "wellness classes" when they were in middle school. It's one thing to teach acceptance and completely another to ask them to write down how they identify. Not everyone is ready at the same age.

Why should you be “stressed” when asked to identify yourself? Girl, boy, non binary? Does it take much “contemplation?”

It is stressful to be pushed to identify on gender or sexuality before one is ready too. Why push it?

Dang! What school is asking to identify sexuality?!?

Oh! None.

Explore your identities kiddos!
Your genders, your orientations, your names. Now is the time. You don’t know until you try.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry. Your crazy rhetoric about “less gender identity focused private schools” puts you squarely in Catholic and Evangelical schools. None of the top tier privates believe in the GOP talking points about indoctrination.

Not OP but I will bite. Not every 6th or 7th grader is prepared to state or contemplate their gender identity. Love our non-Catholic all girl's school in so many ways, but have not loved my child being pushed to contemplate this at such a young age. Not sure if this is the concern that OP has, but my kid and some of her friends were very stressed by the "wellness classes" when they were in middle school. It's one thing to teach acceptance and completely another to ask them to write down how they identify. Not everyone is ready at the same age.

Why should you be “stressed” when asked to identify yourself? Girl, boy, non binary? Does it take much “contemplation?”

It is stressful to be pushed to identify on gender or sexuality before one is ready too. Why push it?

So, one of the ways that people try and control the narrative is this constant confusing of gender and sexuality. No one, literally no one, is asking kids to identify their sexuality in a classroom. So, the fact that you're conflating the two is a sign that either you're listening to people who are manipulating you, or you're trying to manipulate us.

It's also stressful to have people assume your gender. Teachers and classmates have always used pronouns to talk to and about students. Teachers in infant rooms use pronouns to talk to and about students. The question that is being asked is "do you want us to keep using the pronouns we've been using, or would you prefer something else."

Exactly. That’s for Tik Tok and selfies to do.

Next question: what is smart phone policy at your private school for lower school, for middle school.

Which schools prohibit them until after last period?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just curious, what exactly scares you?

The anti-scientific dogma, perhaps?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, your own kids sound like they were more influenced by their peer group as opposed to school curriculum. Teens are pretty open these days in terms of non-binary gender identity. I don’t think the school has quite as much power as you are attributing.

Lol

Read the handbook.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is silly. Im not sure why someone is being attacked because they don’t want their kids to contemplate gender identity. If they don’t want that then let them go somewhere where that’s not an issue. How does that choice adversely impact you? And by the way, schools have major issues like how they weren’t really open for the better part of 2 years…. This is a fringe issue at best.

This.

I can understand why OP wants to avoid a toxic environment of the type proven by this very thread.

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Anonymous wrote:It's been interesting to watch how in the past five years or so (starting with Trump's Presidency) it has become impossible to question certain core tenets of the left. These sacred topics would be deeply strange to a progressive in 2010 if she could fast-forward to today. They are, in no particular order: masking in public places; positions on trans issues; anti-racism / race essentialism; and complete blind trust in certain media and government organizations (and hatred of others). I think I understand why this happened; there was (correctly) a deep fear of what Trump might do to America. In response, the only moral thing to do was to completely and totally embrace "the resistance." This meant subscribing to the Post (Democracy Dies in Darkness), supporting "the science" during the pandemic (meaning the people running NIH and CDC who didn't like Trump), supporting BLM and its adjacent parties no matter the inconvenient facts about the anti-racist movement; and, in this case, unquestioningly following the idea that gender identity is completely subjective and that this "fact" should be taught at an early age. I actually did all of these things for a while, because I wanted to fight what I saw as a real threat of authoritarianism in this country (I still do fear this, actually.)

Unfortunately, based on the comments to this OP and many others on this site, the left has become authoritarian, too, in response to the threat from the right. The poster simply wants a school that is a little less heavy-handed on gender subjectivity, and she is accused on being fascist, MAGA, etc. The responses are so predictable that it's gotten boring. I wonder when this fever will break, if ever. In-group political identity--and the belief system that is "accepted"--has become the defining religion for many Americans--and certainly most residents of the DC area. The left needs to start to realize that they have shed small-l liberalism in their quest for righteousness.

Regarding the poster's question on a less gender identity-focused private for a non-religious family, I can only point you towards the worst offenders when it comes to progressive groupthink. I would say that GDS is far and away the worst, followed by Sidwell. The Episcopal Schools are very progressive but probably a bit more muted. Independent Catholic-wise, SR is as progressive as possible without getting a Diocesan slapdown while Visi will be more conservative. Good luck.

This x a billion!

So well put. Thank you.

Agree completely. I would add 1) the largest explosion is in girls identifying as “non-binary” ; (2) modern gender identity theory is just that - a theory, or more precisely an ideology; it has nothing to do with science (3!) non-binary is a partial affront to traditional feminism; (4) none of this has anything to do with being really transgender which, by definition, is more compatible with a gender binary and there is more evidence to support has a biological basis (studies have been done of brain scans etc). OP was treated shamelessly by many posters here who have accepted the indoctrination of gender identity theory without understanding this is an ideology - a philosophy that simply enables people who don’t fit traditional stereotypes of the ideal man or woman to choose a new, third gender and largely ignore biological sex.


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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am scared by the focus on gender identity in MCPS, but we are also non-religious, so also not considering catholic or Jewish private schools - is there a place for us in MD school system?
Looking for strong academics, too.
Any suggestions would help - thank you!

Ideally leave the area, but if you can’t or won’t, go to any school not based in Washington DC or consider a traditional or Catholic or Montessori or Quaker school (not SFS).

Why put your kids through an experimental activist-written curriculum. Learn math, classics, phonics, spelling, history of events…. And save the OpEds for the teen years or college. And certainly not all 7 or 8 classes.

[Anonymous]

So MoCo or VA less constant yammering of lgbtqia or domestic social injustices every hour, every assembly, every speaker.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:It's been interesting to watch how in the past five years or so (starting with Trump's Presidency) it has become impossible to question certain core tenets of the left. These sacred topics would be deeply strange to a progressive in 2010 if she could fast-forward to today. They are, in no particular order: masking in public places; positions on trans issues; anti-racism / race essentialism; and complete blind trust in certain media and government organizations (and hatred of others). I think I understand why this happened; there was (correctly) a deep fear of what Trump might do to America. In response, the only moral thing to do was to completely and totally embrace "the resistance." This meant subscribing to the Post (Democracy Dies in Darkness), supporting "the science" during the pandemic (meaning the people running NIH and CDC who didn't like Trump), supporting BLM and its adjacent parties no matter the inconvenient facts about the anti-racist movement; and, in this case, unquestioningly following the idea that gender identity is completely subjective and that this "fact" should be taught at an early age. I actually did all of these things for a while, because I wanted to fight what I saw as a real threat of authoritarianism in this country (I still do fear this, actually.)

Unfortunately, based on the comments to this OP and many others on this site, the left has become authoritarian, too, in response to the threat from the right. The poster simply wants a school that is a little less heavy-handed on gender subjectivity, and she is accused on being fascist, MAGA, etc. The responses are so predictable that it's gotten boring. I wonder when this fever will break, if ever. In-group political identity--and the belief system that is "accepted"--has become the defining religion for many Americans--and certainly most residents of the DC area. The left needs to start to realize that they have shed small-l liberalism in their quest for righteousness.

Regarding the poster's question on a less gender identity-focused private for a non-religious family, I can only point you towards the worst offenders when it comes to progressive groupthink. I would say that GDS is far and away the worst, followed by Sidwell. The Episcopal Schools are very progressive but probably a bit more muted. Independent Catholic-wise, SR is as progressive as possible without getting a Diocesan slapdown while Visi will be more conservative. Good luck.

This x a billion!

So well put. Thank you.

Agree completely. I would add 1) the largest explosion is in girls identifying as “non-binary” ; (2) modern gender identity theory is just that - a theory, or more precisely an ideology; it has nothing to do with science (3!) non-binary is a partial affront to traditional feminism; (4) none of this has anything to do with being really transgender which, by definition, is more compatible with a gender binary and there is more evidence to support has a biological basis (studies have been done of brain scans etc). OP was treated shamelessly by many posters here who have accepted the indoctrination of gender identity theory without understanding this is an ideology - a philosophy that simply enables people who don’t fit traditional stereotypes of the ideal man or woman to choose a new, third gender and largely ignore biological sex.


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Curious how Holton or NCs is handling this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:this is so messed up. are you worried that your child will magically switch genders? Also, looking for a place that is burning all books where there may be a trans character?

Prob scared of the new bob cut, plaid shirt, black shirt sleeved sweater, baggy blank pants goth trans craze in middle school. Too cool for school.
Looks awful, such lemmings. makes me want to move to one of the 100s of countries with schools with uniforms.

Swap out one uniform for another?