Apple river tubing killing

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:F around and find out.

Find out you're a murder in jail who can literally never escape the fact that you are a murderer and were in jail, even if you get a life sentence? Wow, what a thing to "find out."

Eh. People learn lessons in all different ways. It is what it is.

[Anonymous]

Where was they guy’s wife and two friends when all this was happening?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From NYT article:

Mr. Miu — described in the complaint as “an older male” with gray hair, weighing approximately 250 pounds — was captured on video running toward a group shirtless and carrying a snorkel, according to the documents. In the video, the group can be heard telling him to “get away,” according to the documents.
According to interviews with witnesses and victims, Mr. Miu was “bothering a group of juveniles on their tubes.” Members of this group “were yelling for help from other individuals floating down the river nearby,” according to the documents.

Witnesses said that a group of people came and stood between Mr. Miu and the juveniles and told him to leave. They also said that he punched or slapped a woman in the second group who was confronting him. According to the witnesses, Mr. Miu was then punched by a man and fell into the river, documents say.

Mr. Miu then began “stabbing multiple individuals who were near him,” according to the complaint. They described the knife as having a three-inch silver blade. After the stabbing, “there was enough blood in the river that the water turned a red tint in places,” court documents say.

WOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW, what do you defenders have to say for yourselves now?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At 250 pounds he was a big guy. The picture of the boy who died was little and skinny, not a football player type. Wonder if this size disparity will come into play during a trial.

It will. And so will the fact that he was an adult and the teenager he killed was not an adult.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You leave. You leave and you call the police. He had time to leave and call the police. At the end of the day, it was a cell phone. Leave it. You can get a new cell phone; you can’t get back a dead teen, or your ruined life.

You leave and you call the police.

It’s like we tell our kids: you don’t fight, you don’t hit, you don’t get violent, you walk away and ask for help.

This. It is upsetting to be surrounded and called names but nothing in this self-defense story justifies stabbing several people so violently that their internal organs were hanging out and exposed. Also, he was snorkeling around, apparently looking for the phone, but grabbing on to peoples' tubes underwater. It's reasonable that such actions could be mistaken as "creepy" and, the teens may have gone overboard, but he was definitely not just out looking for a phone. Grabbing tubes and the butts that hang through them is weird.

Now the libs are adding their own 'facts'

I'm actually the farthest thing from a "lib." You grab a tube underwater, you're definitely close to or grabbing someone's ass. This guy's story is suspect. There are a bunch of witnesses who will get the truth out. But to start stabbing and slashing people who are yelling at you to get away from them and stop harassing them is not self-defense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You leave. You leave and you call the police. He had time to leave and call the police. At the end of the day, it was a cell phone. Leave it. You can get a new cell phone; you can’t get back a dead teen, or your ruined life.

You leave and you call the police.

It’s like we tell our kids: you don’t fight, you don’t hit, you don’t get violent, you walk away and ask for help.

This. It is upsetting to be surrounded and called names but nothing in this self-defense story justifies stabbing several people so violently that their internal organs were hanging out and exposed. Also, he was snorkeling around, apparently looking for the phone, but grabbing on to peoples' tubes underwater. It's reasonable that such actions could be mistaken as "creepy" and, the teens may have gone overboard, but he was definitely not just out looking for a phone. Grabbing tubes and the butts that hang through them is weird.

Now the libs are adding their own 'facts'

I'm actually the farthest thing from a "lib." You grab a tube underwater, you're definitely close to or grabbing someone's ass. This guy's story is suspect. There are a bunch of witnesses who will get the truth out. But to start stabbing and slashing people who are yelling at you to get away from them and stop harassing them is not self-defense.

Yup! And the fact that a second group of people came to the defense of the teens and this guy punched one of them is yet another nail in the coffin. This guy is toast.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You leave. You leave and you call the police. He had time to leave and call the police. At the end of the day, it was a cell phone. Leave it. You can get a new cell phone; you can’t get back a dead teen, or your ruined life.

You leave and you call the police.

It’s like we tell our kids: you don’t fight, you don’t hit, you don’t get violent, you walk away and ask for help.

You're raising pussies.

Yeah. You know who wasn’t a pussy? That kid who’s dead now. And the guy who’s going to be tried for murder.

[Anonymous]

Also from NYT article:

In an interview with the authorities, Mr. Miu claimed he was acting in self-defense, and that he had initially approached the group because he was looking for a lost phone and thought one of them might have found it.

[Anonymous]

So he approached them. If he thought they had it then the snorkel part gets creepier. Was he staring at them underwater trying to spot it? Grabbing onto a tube where he thought a person was hiding it? As an engineer what made him think the phone was there?

[Anonymous]

Mui is a religious nut, gun-toating, Trump-loving lunatic. I think when more details about this come out he will not come out looking innocent. As someone has pointed out before, he should have walked away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You leave. You leave and you call the police. He had time to leave and call the police. At the end of the day, it was a cell phone. Leave it. You can get a new cell phone; you can’t get back a dead teen, or your ruined life.

You leave and you call the police.

It’s like we tell our kids: you don’t fight, you don’t hit, you don’t get violent, you walk away and ask for help.

He was under no obligation to leave. He wanted to keep looking for the phone. They didn’t have to surround him, continue to harrass him, and start a physical altercation first.

Never said they were justified in doing what they did. What I did say was—in any escalating, dangerous situation—YOU LEAVE. And he had the opportunity to do so. Now a teen is dead, and he will go to jail for life or will have some other significant sentence. He will be separated from his family. He will pay exorbitant legal fees. He will think about this every day for the rest of his life. And a teen is dead. If that was your teenage son or daughter, would you have wanted this guy to “stand his ground”? You walk away. Period.

NP

I hate living in a world like this. Where people get to be aggressive a$$holes and my only option (according to you) is to walk away. It ain’t right. Eff that sh!t.

+1

Sick people want to engage and video others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You leave. You leave and you call the police. He had time to leave and call the police. At the end of the day, it was a cell phone. Leave it. You can get a new cell phone; you can’t get back a dead teen, or your ruined life.

You leave and you call the police.

It’s like we tell our kids: you don’t fight, you don’t hit, you don’t get violent, you walk away and ask for help.

You're raising pussies.

Oh will you STFU. Not all of us want to raise a bunch of Toxic Alpha Males.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As to allegations he ‘fled the scene’; he slashed wildly in self defense at multiple people surrounding him, using a relatively small knife. He was under attack and disoriented by flight/fight adrenaline rush. He very likely believed that he had inflicted only superficial wounds enough to make them all back off so he could flee in safety and not pursued by a rabid gang of drunken teens. From the description of how law enforcement encountered him and his reaction to being told someone died, he was oblivious to the extent of injuries inflicted.

He gets acquitted, or at worst convicted of manslaughter.

This exactly. He wasn’t enraged, he was terrified. He did what he had to do to get out of there after being surrounded, outnumbered, and pushed under the water. And he ran away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mui is a religious nut, gun-toating, Trump-loving lunatic. I think when more details about this come out he will not come out looking innocent. As someone has pointed out before, he should have walked away.

Not surprising at all. Even Fox News is putting him on blast....

The posts of Nicolae Miu, 52, a mechanical engineer from Prior Lake, Minnesota, largely consist of memes that reflect a love of guns and belief in self-defense, conservative political views, deeply held religious beliefs as well as a love for animals and boating.

https://www.fox9.com/news/apple-river-stabbing-suspect-who-is-nicolae-miu

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You leave. You leave and you call the police. He had time to leave and call the police. At the end of the day, it was a cell phone. Leave it. You can get a new cell phone; you can’t get back a dead teen, or your ruined life.

You leave and you call the police.

It’s like we tell our kids: you don’t fight, you don’t hit, you don’t get violent, you walk away and ask for help.

He was under no obligation to leave. He wanted to keep looking for the phone. They didn’t have to surround him, continue to harrass him, and start a physical altercation first.

Never said they were justified in doing what they did. What I did say was—in any escalating, dangerous situation—YOU LEAVE. And he had the opportunity to do so. Now a teen is dead, and he will go to jail for life or will have some other significant sentence. He will be separated from his family. He will pay exorbitant legal fees. He will think about this every day for the rest of his life. And a teen is dead. If that was your teenage son or daughter, would you have wanted this guy to “stand his ground”? You walk away. Period.

You leave? Is that what the police are supposed to do? back down anytime they are challenged or attacked? Thought not.

Let me tell you something to share with any of you who have stupid kids like this. I conceal carry and will absolutely end their lives if they threaten or attack me or a member of my party. That's called real life. I defend myself. I don't rely on others.

Looking forward to seeing your sketchy mugshot on the Fox5 website someday! Enjoy your time in jail. Your “concealed carry” won’t help you when Big Rick and the boys sniff around the fresh meat.

Bless your little heart.