Fake URM

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why should white Europeans from the Iberian Peninsula get an admissions boost?

They do not get one. You need to learn more about college admissions.

Good to know. Why do they ask for the Hispanic identification if it doesn't matter?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Schools aren’t going to check. I know a fair skinned, blonde boy who is 50% black. His black parent is fair skinned plus he got every recessive gene there is. Blue eyes. But he’s legitimately 50% black and can claim URM.

I know several kids like this who also identified as such on applications. A set of siblings are also blond and blue-eyed and their father is also very light skinned. In terms of descent, he's probably not 50% black since his one parent probably isn't even 50% black. Still, it does count.

- a biracial woman married to a Black man

PP. I sort of do have a question about this though. My kids definitely pass as black since they got my genes as well, but my light-skinned sister-in-law is married to a blond, blue-eyed Swede and her kids are also blond and blue-eyed. Since my kids are a little bit older, she called me the other day asking for advice about college admissions; she doesn't know if her kids technically count as URM since percentage-wise, they are probably more white than black. Also, my husband doesn't come from a family very involved in the local black community since he and his biological siblings were adopted by white parents. The kids spend part of their summer in Sweden where they are virtually indistinguishable from the local Swedish kids and are culturally more European. I told her that she could technically do this, although we both have some reservations since our kids come from multiracial, multicultural financially-privileged households. WWYD?

My child is biracial (black/white) and looks Latino. He always checks biracial and if asked for specifics on forms checks Black and white.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why should white Europeans from the Iberian Peninsula get an admissions boost?

They do not get one. You need to learn more about college admissions.

Good to know. Why do they ask for the Hispanic identification if it doesn't matter?

Colleges aren't going to ask for proof. Now, certain scholarships will ask.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why should white Europeans from the Iberian Peninsula get an admissions boost?

They do not get one. You need to learn more about college admissions.

Good to know. Why do they ask for the Hispanic identification if it doesn't matter?

Colleges are required to report this data to the federal government. The categories are federal.

As for which URMs a college may be looking for, this will differ by college.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why should white Europeans from the Iberian Peninsula get an admissions boost?

They do not get one. You need to learn more about college admissions.

Good to know. Why do they ask for the Hispanic identification if it doesn't matter?

College are required by law to ask for demographic info. If a student checks Hispanic and white for race, they are classified as white for admissions purposes, which is separate from Federal reporting requirements.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why should white Europeans from the Iberian Peninsula get an admissions boost?

They do not get one. You need to learn more about college admissions.

Good to know. Why do they ask for the Hispanic identification if it doesn't matter?

Colleges aren't going to ask for proof. Now, certain scholarships will ask.

Colleges can ask for proof, and if you lie, you can get thrown out of school and/or denied your diploma. Totally not worth it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why should white Europeans from the Iberian Peninsula get an admissions boost?

They do not get one. You need to learn more about college admissions.

Good to know. Why do they ask for the Hispanic identification if it doesn't matter?

Colleges aren't going to ask for proof. Now, certain scholarships will ask.

Colleges can ask for proof, and if you lie, you can get thrown out of school and/or denied your diploma. Totally not worth it.

What proof can students offer?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why should white Europeans from the Iberian Peninsula get an admissions boost?

They do not get one. You need to learn more about college admissions.

Good to know. Why do they ask for the Hispanic identification if it doesn't matter?

College are required by law to ask for demographic info. If a student checks Hispanic and white for race, they are classified as white for admissions purposes, which is separate from Federal reporting requirements.

+1

The level of resentful ignorance on this thread is astonishing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why should white Europeans from the Iberian Peninsula get an admissions boost?

They do not get one. You need to learn more about college admissions.

Good to know. Why do they ask for the Hispanic identification if it doesn't matter?

Colleges aren't going to ask for proof. Now, certain scholarships will ask.

Colleges can ask for proof, and if you lie, you can get thrown out of school and/or denied your diploma. Totally not worth it.

What proof can students offer?

Parental passports, birth certificates, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why should white Europeans from the Iberian Peninsula get an admissions boost?

They do not get one. You need to learn more about college admissions.

Good to know. Why do they ask for the Hispanic identification if it doesn't matter?

Colleges aren't going to ask for proof. Now, certain scholarships will ask.

Colleges do sometimes ask for proof.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why should white Europeans from the Iberian Peninsula get an admissions boost?

And white European-Americans whose parents spent a few years growing up in Argentina?

White Hispanics and Latinos generally do not get admissions preferences.

I swear some of you have no idea how things work at all and just watch Fox News all the time or something.

[Anonymous]

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My wealthy, well-educated cousins were afforded every opportunity. They also checked the Hispanic box years ago for college admissions, since technically their father is from South America.

It happens all the time, OP. No system is perfect. I'd rather have a system based strictly on academic merit, with financial aid based on financial documents and verified by the IRS.

This. Case in point: Friend A: parents emigrated to Costa Rica from SC when friend was about 12. When applying for college, she applied as Hispanic, in spite of not even holding a passport other than US. "But I iiiideeennttiiiiffyyyy as Hispanic".

Friend B: Grandparents immigrated to the US from Spain. Identified as Hispanic, because technically Spanish speaking--nevermind that Spaniards are White Europeans.


Absurd.

Friend A is lying. But Friend B is indeed Hispanic, no technicality about it. Universities are well aware there are white Hispanics. Hispanic does not mean “not white.”

The ignorance of DCUM posters regarding Latino and Hispanic identity is shocking at times.

I’ve seen for years here the disregard and negative feelings towards white Hispanics here. It’s really shocking and disgusting. Not white enough for the DCUM whites but not brown/struggle enough to “count” according to them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
My wealthy, well-educated cousins were afforded every opportunity. They also checked the Hispanic box years ago for college admissions, since technically their father is from South America.

It happens all the time, OP. No system is perfect. I'd rather have a system based strictly on academic merit, with financial aid based on financial documents and verified by the IRS.

This. Case in point: Friend A: parents emigrated to Costa Rica from SC when friend was about 12. When applying for college, she applied as Hispanic, in spite of not even holding a passport other than US. "But I iiiideeennttiiiiffyyyy as Hispanic".

Friend B: Grandparents immigrated to the US from Spain. Identified as Hispanic, because technically Spanish speaking--nevermind that Spaniards are White Europeans.


Absurd.

Friend A is lying. But Friend B is indeed Hispanic, no technicality about it. Universities are well aware there are white Hispanics. Hispanic does not mean “not white.”

The ignorance of DCUM posters regarding Latino and Hispanic identity is shocking at times.

I’ve seen for years here the disregard and negative feelings towards white Hispanics here. It’s really shocking and disgusting. Not white enough for the DCUM whites but not brown/struggle enough to “count” according to them.

Agree. It is vile, and also wildly racist.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
My wealthy, well-educated cousins were afforded every opportunity. They also checked the Hispanic box years ago for college admissions, since technically their father is from South America.

It happens all the time, OP. No system is perfect. I'd rather have a system based strictly on academic merit, with financial aid based on financial documents and verified by the IRS.

WTF. They ARE Hispanic and Latino if their father is from South America. Wealth has nothing to do with identity, unless you are a racist that thinks all Latinos are poor and uneducated. Not checking the Hispanic box would be lying about their identity.

This too is murky. Dh has parents who were born in Argentina but their parents were European from Europe. His parents grew up at moved to the US. (He never checks the Hispanic box but..) Is he Hispanic (he never checks this box). He grew up in a Spanish speaking household. Had his parents spoke Yiddish would that change your mind ? What if his parents had been born in Argentina but moved here at age 6?

The whole system is rough around the edges. No way about it. Dh doesn’t check the box because he has had every advantage. I’d hope others were reasonable in this way but there are always exceptions.

Are you implying that the Jews in Argentina or Mexico or Venezuela are not Hispanic?

[Anonymous]

I know a college graduate who gained “hardship” admission because their parent is in federal prison for a white collar crime.