Increases of Covid cases at Lafayette ES

[Anonymous]

I’m neither pro mask or anti mask. However, the nonsense that masks don’t provide some protection is disingenuous.
Saying it does nothing is not justifiable to try to not wear one. Just don’t wear one, it’s not mandated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m neither pro mask or anti mask. However, the nonsense that masks don’t provide some protection is disingenuous.
Saying it does nothing is not justifiable to try to not wear one. Just don’t wear one, it’s not mandated.

lol tell me again how my kid’s snotty, chewed-on mask that slips under his nose works at all? if anything it makes him more prone to picking up a bug.

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Anonymous wrote:Kids and staff in our charter are still masked indoors and cases are up there too. I'm sure masks help but not wearing them def isn't causing the actual spike.

If you think they are wearing the masks, I’ve got a bridge to sell you.

Ha. They actually do wear them.

NP. Sure, they are wearing them, but they are kids. Those masks, even those child-size KN95s and KF94s, don't provide a tight seal and have plenty of air leakage around them. They are not providing anywhere close to the protection you think. That's why the highest quality studies of masks in schools have shown no significant effect (Spain, Finland).

We just had a Covid case in my kid's class, and none of the other kids, most of whom are unmasked, ended up catching it. We are seeing more cases at our school, but they don't usually end up spreading to others in the classroom.

Cases are going up everywhere, masks or not. And it doesn't matter unless we keep freaking out about it.

Masks absolutely help. The are far better than an outbreak like you had.

NP. To be clear, masks help with adults and big kids, but in PK thru lower elementary, there isn't a measurable distance with masking or not. I think some of this discussion is getting a little vague. It's not a question of masks or not, or ignoring covid or not. Our school has test to stay protocols, so instead of closing down my kids' PK and K classrooms, they are having the kids wear masks for a week and are doing more in class rapid test during the week. We do not need to ignore it, but I think it's right to take all necessary measures to keep as many kids in school as much as possible. The next thing is to adopt CDC guidance that asymptomatic kids can come back after 5 days, without further testing.

+1. High quality masks, worn correctly and consistently, can do a great job protecting individuals. But a loose cloth mask on a young child ... isn't accomplishing much, other than a false sense of security. Believe me, we've tried everything to get my 2.5-year-old to mask somewhat well.

My older kid's elementary school had two significant increases this year, one when everyone was masked and one when masks were optional. We routinely see cases in school mirror cases in the region overall, no matter what the school does. During those two surges, we we only got a close contact notice once, suggesting that the cases were/are popping up in lots of different places, rather than one kid infecting their whole class. My kid has reported a bunch of friends are out this week, but none for actual Covid. Unless you're looking at the actual by-class data, which DCPS doesn't do, you don't really know where and why absences are occurring.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m neither pro mask or anti mask. However, the nonsense that masks don’t provide some protection is disingenuous.
Saying it does nothing is not justifiable to try to not wear one. Just don’t wear one, it’s not mandated.

lol tell me again how my kid’s snotty, chewed-on mask that slips under his nose works at all? if anything it makes him more prone to picking up a bug.

God you are stupid. No one ever said a dirty mask is sufficient. Why do you think they get washed or thrown out idiot? And if it’s under his nose, it’s essentially no mask which is what you want.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m neither pro mask or anti mask. However, the nonsense that masks don’t provide some protection is disingenuous.
Saying it does nothing is not justifiable to try to not wear one. Just don’t wear one, it’s not mandated.

lol tell me again how my kid’s snotty, chewed-on mask that slips under his nose works at all? if anything it makes him more prone to picking up a bug.

You inadvertently admitted that a good clean mask works. Hahahhahahhha!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m neither pro mask or anti mask. However, the nonsense that masks don’t provide some protection is disingenuous.
Saying it does nothing is not justifiable to try to not wear one. Just don’t wear one, it’s not mandated.

lol tell me again how my kid’s snotty, chewed-on mask that slips under his nose works at all? if anything it makes him more prone to picking up a bug.

You inadvertently admitted that a good clean mask works. Hahahhahahhha!

They also complained about “picking up a bug.” Lol!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m neither pro mask or anti mask. However, the nonsense that masks don’t provide some protection is disingenuous.
Saying it does nothing is not justifiable to try to not wear one. Just don’t wear one, it’s not mandated.

lol tell me again how my kid’s snotty, chewed-on mask that slips under his nose works at all? if anything it makes him more prone to picking up a bug.

You inadvertently admitted that a good clean mask works. Hahahhahahhha!

You still aren't getting it, moron. We are not (or at least I am not - I'm one of the many PPs) arguing that well-fitting, high-quality masks, worn correctly, don't work. They do! We are arguing that elementary aged kids do not wear well-fitting, high-qualilty masks, and they don't wear them correctly. There isn't anything you can do to fix that. Ergo, mask-wearing in this age group does not work.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m neither pro mask or anti mask. However, the nonsense that masks don’t provide some protection is disingenuous.
Saying it does nothing is not justifiable to try to not wear one. Just don’t wear one, it’s not mandated.

lol tell me again how my kid’s snotty, chewed-on mask that slips under his nose works at all? if anything it makes him more prone to picking up a bug.

You inadvertently admitted that a good clean mask works. Hahahhahahhha!

You still aren't getting it, moron. We are not (or at least I am not - I'm one of the many PPs) arguing that well-fitting, high-quality masks, worn correctly, don't work. They do! We are arguing that elementary aged kids do not wear well-fitting, high-qualilty masks, and they don't wear them correctly. There isn't anything you can do to fix that. Ergo, mask-wearing in this age group does not work.

BS-Bone fide and many other companies sell kn-95 mask designed specifically for children that are well fitting. You just don’t want to and you are full of it. Even a not well fitting mask is offering some protection and you know it.
Just don’t wear one but stop with your deceitful BS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m neither pro mask or anti mask. However, the nonsense that masks don’t provide some protection is disingenuous.
Saying it does nothing is not justifiable to try to not wear one. Just don’t wear one, it’s not mandated.

lol tell me again how my kid’s snotty, chewed-on mask that slips under his nose works at all? if anything it makes him more prone to picking up a bug.

You inadvertently admitted that a good clean mask works. Hahahhahahhha!

You still aren't getting it, moron. We are not (or at least I am not - I'm one of the many PPs) arguing that well-fitting, high-quality masks, worn correctly, don't work. They do! We are arguing that elementary aged kids do not wear well-fitting, high-qualilty masks, and they don't wear them correctly. There isn't anything you can do to fix that. Ergo, mask-wearing in this age group does not work.

Actually, there are some in here who said they don’t work.

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Anonymous wrote:We need to tell all doctors and nurses to eliminate masks during surgeries then. It’s been a farce even before covid apparently.

Equating the purpose of wearing a mask while performing a surgery with wearing a mask to prevent the spread of a highly contagious aerosolized respiratory virus just shows you have no clue what you are talking about. Aside from the difference in function, nobody ever said a correctly worn medical respirator doesn't work. The point is that school children have never done that and never will, nor should they.

I suppose the doctors who wear them are not as smart as you.

PP is trying to send zingers across...that are not zinging. That made no sense.

The PP is still missing the point. Nobody said that doctors wearing masks during surgery, or doctors wearing N95s to prevent Covid transmission isn't working, or that they shouldn't wear them. Kids in schools aren't surgeons though, nor can they wear a tightly sealing N95 all day long.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m neither pro mask or anti mask. However, the nonsense that masks don’t provide some protection is disingenuous.
Saying it does nothing is not justifiable to try to not wear one. Just don’t wear one, it’s not mandated.

lol tell me again how my kid’s snotty, chewed-on mask that slips under his nose works at all? if anything it makes him more prone to picking up a bug.

You inadvertently admitted that a good clean mask works. Hahahhahahhha!

You still aren't getting it, moron. We are not (or at least I am not - I'm one of the many PPs) arguing that well-fitting, high-quality masks, worn correctly, don't work. They do! We are arguing that elementary aged kids do not wear well-fitting, high-qualilty masks, and they don't wear them correctly. There isn't anything you can do to fix that. Ergo, mask-wearing in this age group does not work.

Actually, there are some in here who said they don’t work.

In the context of discussing the removal of school mask mandates and whether that was responsible for an increase in cases.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We need to tell all doctors and nurses to eliminate masks during surgeries then. It’s been a farce even before covid apparently.

Equating the purpose of wearing a mask while performing a surgery with wearing a mask to prevent the spread of a highly contagious aerosolized respiratory virus just shows you have no clue what you are talking about. Aside from the difference in function, nobody ever said a correctly worn medical respirator doesn't work. The point is that school children have never done that and never will, nor should they.

I suppose the doctors who wear them are not as smart as you.

PP is trying to send zingers across...that are not zinging. That made no sense.

The PP is still missing the point. Nobody said that doctors wearing masks during surgery, or doctors wearing N95s to prevent Covid transmission isn't working, or that they shouldn't wear them. Kids in schools aren't surgeons though, nor can they wear a tightly sealing N95 all day long.

No, people did say that masks do nothing. It’s in plain site on this thread.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Kids and staff in our charter are still masked indoors and cases are up there too. I'm sure masks help but not wearing them def isn't causing the actual spike.

If you think they are wearing the masks, I’ve got a bridge to sell you.

Ha. They actually do wear them.

NP. Sure, they are wearing them, but they are kids. Those masks, even those child-size KN95s and KF94s, don't provide a tight seal and have plenty of air leakage around them. They are not providing anywhere close to the protection you think. That's why the highest quality studies of masks in schools have shown no significant effect (Spain, Finland).

We just had a Covid case in my kid's class, and none of the other kids, most of whom are unmasked, ended up catching it. We are seeing more cases at our school, but they don't usually end up spreading to others in the classroom.

Cases are going up everywhere, masks or not. And it doesn't matter unless we keep freaking out about it.

Masks absolutely help. The are far better than an outbreak like you had.

NP. To be clear, masks help with adults and big kids, but in PK thru lower elementary, there isn't a measurable distance with masking or not. I think some of this discussion is getting a little vague. It's not a question of masks or not, or ignoring covid or not. Our school has test to stay protocols, so instead of closing down my kids' PK and K classrooms, they are having the kids wear masks for a week and are doing more in class rapid test during the week. We do not need to ignore it, but I think it's right to take all necessary measures to keep as many kids in school as much as possible. The next thing is to adopt CDC guidance that asymptomatic kids can come back after 5 days, without further testing.

+1. High quality masks, worn correctly and consistently, can do a great job protecting individuals. But a loose cloth mask on a young child ... isn't accomplishing much, other than a false sense of security. Believe me, we've tried everything to get my 2.5-year-old to mask somewhat well.

My older kid's elementary school had two significant increases this year, one when everyone was masked and one when masks were optional. We routinely see cases in school mirror cases in the region overall, no matter what the school does. During those two surges, we we only got a close contact notice once, suggesting that the cases were/are popping up in lots of different places, rather than one kid infecting their whole class. My kid has reported a bunch of friends are out this week, but none for actual Covid. Unless you're looking at the actual by-class data, which DCPS doesn't do, you don't really know where and why absences are occurring.

This. We have had individual cases in our class, one during universal masking and one after the majority unmasked, and they didn't spread either. Kids are bringing it in from outside the school. Not saying no in-school spread ever happens, but it is relatively rare. If you worry about the low chance of your kid catching it in the classroom, send them in a mask.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We need to tell all doctors and nurses to eliminate masks during surgeries then. It’s been a farce even before covid apparently.

Equating the purpose of wearing a mask while performing a surgery with wearing a mask to prevent the spread of a highly contagious aerosolized respiratory virus just shows you have no clue what you are talking about. Aside from the difference in function, nobody ever said a correctly worn medical respirator doesn't work. The point is that school children have never done that and never will, nor should they.

I suppose the doctors who wear them are not as smart as you.

PP is trying to send zingers across...that are not zinging. That made no sense.

The PP is still missing the point. Nobody said that doctors wearing masks during surgery, or doctors wearing N95s to prevent Covid transmission isn't working, or that they shouldn't wear them. Kids in schools aren't surgeons though, nor can they wear a tightly sealing N95 all day long.

No, people did say that masks do nothing. It’s in plain site on this thread.

Yes, but not the poster above whom you accused of thinking they were smarter than the doctors and nurses. They very explicitly made a different case. Maybe aim your attacks at the right people?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We need to tell all doctors and nurses to eliminate masks during surgeries then. It’s been a farce even before covid apparently.

Equating the purpose of wearing a mask while performing a surgery with wearing a mask to prevent the spread of a highly contagious aerosolized respiratory virus just shows you have no clue what you are talking about. Aside from the difference in function, nobody ever said a correctly worn medical respirator doesn't work. The point is that school children have never done that and never will, nor should they.

I suppose the doctors who wear them are not as smart as you.

PP is trying to send zingers across...that are not zinging. That made no sense.

The PP is still missing the point. Nobody said that doctors wearing masks during surgery, or doctors wearing N95s to prevent Covid transmission isn't working, or that they shouldn't wear them. Kids in schools aren't surgeons though, nor can they wear a tightly sealing N95 all day long.

Surgeons don’t routinely wear n95 masks. There are other masks options out there that are better than nothing. Keep trying.