Definitive Top 25 list

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Do it with the Forbes ranking as well:

https://www.forbes.com/top-colleges/

LOL UC bribed Forbes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:UCB, UCLA, Lac’s like Williams, Amherst are big omissions from your made up list.

Also, unrelated but I typically think of WUSTL, Emory and Tufts together. Not sure when the first two started to get more recognition but guess it relates to their grad programs (and they don’t have to “compete” in a city with Harvard and MIT, haha).

If OP included Amherst and Williams, then NYU wouldn't squeak in, which was the point of the post entirely. Weird.

Also, Emory and WUSTL are definitely stronger universities than Tufts. By a long shot.

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Forbes ranking is better than WSJ

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Anonymous wrote:Revomve NYU

Switch Emory and Notre Dame

No. Notre Dame is not a better school than Emory. It's only top 25 on one ranking while Emory is on both. So no Notre Dame doesn't get the benefit of the doubt.

Sorry USN&WR is the flagship ranking.
Others are supplementary.

So you admit it matters as you call it supplementary. Either way Notre Dame is overrated, it just has a ton of money.

lol yes money buys quality professors and staff, facilities, provides more generous aid to attaract better quiality students, better services, etc.
So the school gets better and better

Notre Dame > Emory

That's why Emorys global USnews ranking is 73 and Notre Dames 211. Right? Notre Dame must be better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Forbes ranking is better than WSJ

Another Berkeley Booster

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Anonymous wrote:Revomve NYU

Switch Emory and Notre Dame

No. Notre Dame is not a better school than Emory. It's only top 25 on one ranking while Emory is on both. So no Notre Dame doesn't get the benefit of the doubt.

Sorry USN&WR is the flagship ranking.
Others are supplementary.

So you admit it matters as you call it supplementary. Either way Notre Dame is overrated, it just has a ton of money.

lol yes money buys quality professors and staff, facilities, provides more generous aid to attaract better quiality students, better services, etc.
So the school gets better and better

Notre Dame > Emory

That's why Emorys global USnews ranking is 73 and Notre Dames 211. Right? Notre Dame must be better.

Yes Notredame is better for Undergraduate education.
I'll check it later for graduate school if needed.

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Anonymous wrote:Revomve NYU

Switch Emory and Notre Dame

No. Notre Dame is not a better school than Emory. It's only top 25 on one ranking while Emory is on both. So no Notre Dame doesn't get the benefit of the doubt.

Sorry USN&WR is the flagship ranking.
Others are supplementary.

So you admit it matters as you call it supplementary. Either way Notre Dame is overrated, it just has a ton of money.

lol yes money buys quality professors and staff, facilities, provides more generous aid to attaract better quiality students, better services, etc.
So the school gets better and better

Notre Dame > Emory

That's why Emorys global USnews ranking is 73 and Notre Dames 211. Right? Notre Dame must be better.

Are you plan to immigrate to other country?

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Anonymous wrote:UCB, UCLA, Lac’s like Williams, Amherst are big omissions from your made up list.

Also, unrelated but I typically think of WUSTL, Emory and Tufts together. Not sure when the first two started to get more recognition but guess it relates to their grad programs (and they don’t have to “compete” in a city with Harvard and MIT, haha).

If OP included Amherst and Williams, then NYU wouldn't squeak in, which was the point of the post entirely. Weird.

Also, Emory and WUSTL are definitely stronger universities than Tufts. By a long shot.

I have no affiliation with Tufts, but I see all three as very similar schools and settings. I think Tufts is minimized because of its proximity to Harvard and MIT.

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Anonymous wrote:Forbes ranking is better than WSJ

To further clarify, the WSJ ranking has 20% on engagement which is based on a student survey. This is a big weight on a very subjective element and where the sample size of students surveyed for each school could be skewed. It's not very useful. Also, it has another 10% weight on "environment" for student and faculty diversity, again not sure how this affects the quality of education. I prefer to see hard data. Forbes uses data to calculate alumni salary, return on investment, academic success, retention rate, graduation rate, and number of American leaders and entrepreneurs (individuals in public service, Nobel prize winners, field prize, etc. although using the Forbes list of leaders is self serving).

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Anonymous wrote:No LACs? Both Forbes and WSJ have Williams, Amherst, and Pomona in the top 25 for their combined lists. Pomona is in the top 20 on Niche too.

Yeah! Give the LACs some respect!

Or make a LAC list. 🙂

There's no way to accurately add them, and even if I did they'll likely be at the bottom or off the list entirely.

That's fine. USNWR has a LAC ranking that's pretty much in line with consensus ratings.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Do it with the Forbes ranking as well:

https://www.forbes.com/top-colleges/

LOL UC bribed Forbes

Exactly! And, I'm from CA.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Forbes ranking is better than WSJ

To further clarify, the WSJ ranking has 20% on engagement which is based on a student survey. This is a big weight on a very subjective element and where the sample size of students surveyed for each school could be skewed. It's not very useful. Also, it has another 10% weight on "environment" for student and faculty diversity, again not sure how this affects the quality of education. I prefer to see hard data. Forbes uses data to calculate alumni salary, return on investment, academic success, retention rate, graduation rate, and number of American leaders and entrepreneurs (individuals in public service, Nobel prize winners, field prize, etc. although using the Forbes list of leaders is self serving).

And? USNWR weights 20% on the college’s peer assessment survey on “undergraduate academic reputation”. Also and equally subjective. Both WSJ and USNWR and all other college ranking systems are utter and complete rubbish.

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Anonymous wrote:UCB, UCLA, Lac’s like Williams, Amherst are big omissions from your made up list.

Also, unrelated but I typically think of WUSTL, Emory and Tufts together. Not sure when the first two started to get more recognition but guess it relates to their grad programs (and they don’t have to “compete” in a city with Harvard and MIT, haha).

I didn't include LACs because that wouldn't be fair as USNews doesn't combine the lists. UCLA is there, UCB is overrated. Tufts had never been on WashU'd or Emorys level. Only in the minds of delusional new Englanders.

I don’t agree with you about Tufts but this did make me laugh. Signed, a former New Englander

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Anonymous wrote:Revomve NYU

Switch Emory and Notre Dame

No. Notre Dame is not a better school than Emory. It's only top 25 on one ranking while Emory is on both. So no Notre Dame doesn't get the benefit of the doubt.

Sorry USN&WR is the flagship ranking.
Others are supplementary.

So you admit it matters as you call it supplementary. Either way Notre Dame is overrated, it just has a ton of money.

lol yes money buys quality professors and staff, facilities, provides more generous aid to attaract better quiality students, better services, etc.
So the school gets better and better

Notre Dame > Emory

That's why Emorys global USnews ranking is 73 and Notre Dames 211. Right? Notre Dame must be better.

UNC's is 39. How do you figure that in? It's also on the Forbes list, where a number of these are not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There's always discussion on the forum about what are the top schools and I'm here to help. I combined both the USNews and WSJ rankings to create a more accurate and complete ranking. These two are the most reputable in circulation thus why others weren't used.

1.Harvard
2.MIT
3.Stanford
4.Yale
4. tie Princeton
6. Duke
7. Cal Tech
8. Columbia
8. tie Johns Hopkins
8. tie Northwestern
11. U Chicago
11. tie UPenn
11. tie Brown
14. Dartmouth
15. Cornell
16. Vanderbilt
17. Washington U
18. Rice
19. Emory
20. USC
20. tie CMU
22.Notre Dame
22. tie U Michigan
22. tie UCLA
25. Georgetown
25. NYU

This list is strong. I agree with it!!