I am Russian, she is Ukrainian, we were friends

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Anonymous wrote:Probably for a multitude of micro aggressions that Russians don’t even notice when they deal with Ukrainians that used to be tolerable before but became absolutely unacceptable with the expanded invasion and targeting civilians.

You don’t know what you’re talking about.

Oh, I absolutely do.

Want to provide examples?

i'm Ukrainian and i have a list a mile long of how many times Russians in my life have dismissed my identity. Using the word "ours" to describe things, implying that we are the same, using the wrong preposition phrase when referring to Ukraine, etc, etc.

I am the OP. Not all Russians are equal. Not all Russians are assholes. My family always treated Ukraine as a separate country. We were against the annexation of Crimea. I am sorry you had a bad experience with the Russians. I am not one of those Russians and neither is my family.

DP. A "bad experience"? PP says they have a list a mile long, that's a lot more than a "bad experience". Why are you trying so hard to invalidate PP's grievances?

DP. Jeez — what’s your problem?

My problem is the Ukrainian PP says they have a list a mile long, and the Russian PP just dismisses it as if it doesn't matter. What's your problem? For starters, it sounds like you have trouble showing respect to anyone, and you have difficulty accepting things may not align perfectly with your perceptions.

You seem like you enjoy jumping to conclusions about people. This isn’t your fight — stay out of it.

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:and she is no longer talking to me. I am anti-Putin, I support humanitarian efforts. She was my friend for 20 years and now she blocked me, told her children not talk to mine. What can I do? What should I do? I am devastated and so are my children.

Give her time, OP. My father's family is from Ukraine and it feels as though Putin is trying to wipe Ukraine and its people off the face of the earth. That's not an easy thing to deal with.

Are you in contact with people in Russia? Have you told them the truth of what's going on?

[Anonymous]

Cancel that bigot, OP.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:and she is no longer talking to me. I am anti-Putin, I support humanitarian efforts. She was my friend for 20 years and now she blocked me, told her children not talk to mine. What can I do? What should I do? I am devastated and so are my children.

Your former friend is a petty soul who is displacing her feelings of powerlessness and anger onto you, an easy target. She’s not a good person. I am an African who lives abroad because white people raped and destroyed my country for hundreds of years, murdered our democratically elected president and installed a dictator after we fought for independence, and then killed some more. White people, especially America and France, continue to harm my country and to make it impossible for my family back home to live decent lives. I can speak to the pain of fleeing home in terror and never being able to go back. It hurts sometimes to see the prosperity and arrogance of people whose way of life is built on stealing from countries like mine. But I still don’t take it out on individuals. Your former friend isn’t a good person and you can’t trust her again.

It’s hilarious to see Americans posting in this thread as if they have any leg to stand on. May you all live to enjoy your just desserts.

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Anonymous wrote:Probably for a multitude of micro aggressions that Russians don’t even notice when they deal with Ukrainians that used to be tolerable before but became absolutely unacceptable with the expanded invasion and targeting civilians.

You don’t know what you’re talking about.

Oh, I absolutely do.

Want to provide examples?

i'm Ukrainian and i have a list a mile long of how many times Russians in my life have dismissed my identity. Using the word "ours" to describe things, implying that we are the same, using the wrong preposition phrase when referring to Ukraine, etc, etc.

I am the OP. Not all Russians are equal. Not all Russians are assholes. My family always treated Ukraine as a separate country. We were against the annexation of Crimea. I am sorry you had a bad experience with the Russians. I am not one of those Russians and neither is my family.

DP. A "bad experience"? PP says they have a list a mile long, that's a lot more than a "bad experience". Why are you trying so hard to invalidate PP's grievances?

DP. Jeez — what’s your problem?

My problem is the Ukrainian PP says they have a list a mile long, and the Russian PP just dismisses it as if it doesn't matter. What's your problem? For starters, it sounds like you have trouble showing respect to anyone, and you have difficulty accepting things may not align perfectly with your perceptions.

You seem like you enjoy jumping to conclusions about people. This isn’t your fight — stay out of it.

That's a bad take on your part. I enjoy coming to, and I have come to, conclusions about people using reasoning based on evidence. By posting about it here, the fight is being brought to me.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Probably for a multitude of micro aggressions that Russians don’t even notice when they deal with Ukrainians that used to be tolerable before but became absolutely unacceptable with the expanded invasion and targeting civilians.

You don’t know what you’re talking about.

Oh, I absolutely do.

Want to provide examples?

i'm Ukrainian and i have a list a mile long of how many times Russians in my life have dismissed my identity. Using the word "ours" to describe things, implying that we are the same, using the wrong preposition phrase when referring to Ukraine, etc, etc.

I am the OP. Not all Russians are equal. Not all Russians are assholes. My family always treated Ukraine as a separate country. We were against the annexation of Crimea. I am sorry you had a bad experience with the Russians. I am not one of those Russians and neither is my family.

DP. A "bad experience"? PP says they have a list a mile long, that's a lot more than a "bad experience". Why are you trying so hard to invalidate PP's grievances?

DP. Jeez — what’s your problem?

My problem is the Ukrainian PP says they have a list a mile long, and the Russian PP just dismisses it as if it doesn't matter. What's your problem? For starters, it sounds like you have trouble showing respect to anyone, and you have difficulty accepting things may not align perfectly with your perceptions.

You seem like you enjoy jumping to conclusions about people. This isn’t your fight — stay out of it.

That's a bad take on your part. I enjoy coming to, and I have come to, conclusions about people using reasoning based on evidence. By posting about it here, the fight is being brought to me.

No one is forcing you to engage on this topic.

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Anonymous wrote:Probably for a multitude of micro aggressions that Russians don’t even notice when they deal with Ukrainians that used to be tolerable before but became absolutely unacceptable with the expanded invasion and targeting civilians.

You don’t know what you’re talking about.

Oh, I absolutely do.

Want to provide examples?

i'm Ukrainian and i have a list a mile long of how many times Russians in my life have dismissed my identity. Using the word "ours" to describe things, implying that we are the same, using the wrong preposition phrase when referring to Ukraine, etc, etc.

I am the OP. Not all Russians are equal. Not all Russians are assholes. My family always treated Ukraine as a separate country. We were against the annexation of Crimea. I am sorry you had a bad experience with the Russians. I am not one of those Russians and neither is my family.

DP. A "bad experience"? PP says they have a list a mile long, that's a lot more than a "bad experience". Why are you trying so hard to invalidate PP's grievances?

DP. Jeez — what’s your problem?

My problem is the Ukrainian PP says they have a list a mile long, and the Russian PP just dismisses it as if it doesn't matter. What's your problem? For starters, it sounds like you have trouble showing respect to anyone, and you have difficulty accepting things may not align perfectly with your perceptions.

You seem like you enjoy jumping to conclusions about people. This isn’t your fight — stay out of it.

That's a bad take on your part. I enjoy coming to, and I have come to, conclusions about people using reasoning based on evidence. By posting about it here, the fight is being brought to me.

No one is forcing you to engage on this topic.

But you're trying to force me not to.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:and she is no longer talking to me. I am anti-Putin, I support humanitarian efforts. She was my friend for 20 years and now she blocked me, told her children not talk to mine. What can I do? What should I do? I am devastated and so are my children.

Give her time, OP. My father's family is from Ukraine and it feels as though Putin is trying to wipe Ukraine and its people off the face of the earth. That's not an easy thing to deal with.

Are you in contact with people in Russia? Have you told them the truth of what's going on?

OP: my family in Russia go to protests. My cousin has been arrested and fined.

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Anonymous wrote:and she is no longer talking to me. I am anti-Putin, I support humanitarian efforts. She was my friend for 20 years and now she blocked me, told her children not talk to mine. What can I do? What should I do? I am devastated and so are my children.

Give her time, OP. My father's family is from Ukraine and it feels as though Putin is trying to wipe Ukraine and its people off the face of the earth. That's not an easy thing to deal with.

Are you in contact with people in Russia? Have you told them the truth of what's going on?

OP: my family in Russia go to protests. My cousin has been arrested and fined.

OP, I wish your family well. They are very brave to be protesting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Cancel that bigot, OP.

That's what Putin is trying to do.

[Anonymous]

Why is this in politics? OP let go. When it’s over you can seek to reconcile.

[Anonymous]

Meant to add, this is an expression of her horror and devastation. Which is a lonely place and impossible for most to understand. Accept it as such and take it up in the future. She needs space.

[Anonymous]

Simmer down, folks. None of us are responsible for where we were born/grew up.

[Anonymous]

I blocked a Russian on FB way before this. Ever since Maria Butina, I feel like I don’t know what I don’t know. I’d rather not be friends with a Russian just in case.