Are the wealthy leaving MCPS?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It sure seems like many affluent in Bethesda/ Potomac, Chevy Chase are exiting MCPS in droves. Has anyone else observed this happening?

There's no evidence to support this. People seem to be happy with the exception of a few far-right posters that like to stir up trouble.

Didn’t MCPS release numbers last year that showed numbers were down?
No one seems happy with the MAP scores that were released (at least they shouldn’t be)

I’m all for a debate of whether MCPS can pull things back together, but to say it’s just a bunch of whiny parents is sticking your head in the sand.

She didn't. She said it was one whiny parent with a right wing agenda.

I agree.

But I wanted to thank you, whiny parent with a right wing agenda. You provide me with literally hours of free entertainment. And you're great for my writer's block. Say something more dumb again. Come on! Ya know you want (have?) To do it?

It’s not one whiny parent. You just hurl insults with nothing to back it up. Again, I’m up for a civilized debate if you need to practice your writing skills. MCPS numbers literally show enrollment is down. It’s impossible to tell whether those people who left are wealthy or not.

Apologies. Civilized people are so bougie.

The person who said there are similar complaints in the VA school threads is the wisest one in our virtual room.

Oh. I didn’t realize the title of the thread was are VA schools doing better? Oh wait, it’s not. It’s about comparing MCPS public to private. Not MCPS to another district.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It sure seems like many affluent in Bethesda/ Potomac, Chevy Chase are exiting MCPS in droves. Has anyone else observed this happening?

There's no evidence to support this. People seem to be happy with the exception of a few far-right posters that like to stir up trouble.

where is the evidence to support that "People seem to be happy"?

More than likely, the vast majority have no choice but public schools. Even if they could send their kids to private, there isn't enough room for all 160K kids in MCPS.

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There’s also no evidence not supporting “People seem to be happpy” or that the dynamics either way is different in VA or most other districts.

[Anonymous]

Possibly many are leaving for private. We opted into private just prior to covid so that was not a factor. After giving it an honest go, we will not return next year and instead will go back to public as my DS “well respected Catholic all boy’s school” hasn’t been worth what we pay and has been a disappointing let down. I suspect some parents will realize this as well once they are private and leave, some will be in denial to justify, some will just suck it up and continue, and some will just be oblivious. It’s a shame, I do wish that his private had lived up to what the school and parents tout. I know many parents are being misled.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:See all the empty housing… ohh wait.

You are an idiot. Leaving MCPS <> leaving MoCo.

Actually leaving Moco does = leaving MCPS

The birth rate declined in 2008-2013 nationwide. There was a natural decline in babies being born, also less people are getting married and having kids.

That doesn’t mean they are leaving MCPS.

Enrollments in all grades decreased. Ninth usually has the biggest decrease. A declining birth rate doesn’t explain the declining enrollments in those grades.
It is more than a natural decline.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It sure seems like many affluent in Bethesda/ Potomac, Chevy Chase are exiting MCPS in droves. Has anyone else observed this happening?

There's no evidence to support this. People seem to be happy with the exception of a few far-right posters that like to stir up trouble.

Didn’t MCPS release numbers last year that showed numbers were down?
No one seems happy with the MAP scores that were released (at least they shouldn’t be)

I’m all for a debate of whether MCPS can pull things back together, but to say it’s just a bunch of whiny parents is sticking your head in the sand.

She didn't. She said it was one whiny parent with a right wing agenda.

I agree.

But I wanted to thank you, whiny parent with a right wing agenda. You provide me with literally hours of free entertainment. And you're great for my writer's block. Say something more dumb again. Come on! Ya know you want (have?) To do it?

It’s not one whiny parent. You just hurl insults with nothing to back it up. Again, I’m up for a civilized debate if you need to practice your writing skills. MCPS numbers literally show enrollment is down. It’s impossible to tell whether those people who left are wealthy or not.

Apologies. Civilized people are so bougie.

The person who said there are similar complaints in the VA school threads is the wisest one in our virtual room.

Oh. I didn’t realize the title of the thread was are VA schools doing better? Oh wait, it’s not. It’s about comparing MCPS public to private. Not MCPS to another district.

Actually the title of the thread wasn’t about comparing MCPS to any other district or private. The folks in the thread tried to make it about that. Further, comparing MCPS to private is a worthless as there are too many variables, starting with size, population, regulations, and the fact that public can always be a backup to private bit the other is not at all true.

[Anonymous]

About 15% of kids in MoCo are in private. It has always been this way. The private schools have been around a long time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It sure seems like many affluent in Bethesda/ Potomac, Chevy Chase are exiting MCPS in droves. Has anyone else observed this happening?

There's no evidence to support this. People seem to be happy with the exception of a few far-right posters that like to stir up trouble.

Didn’t MCPS release numbers last year that showed numbers were down?
No one seems happy with the MAP scores that were released (at least they shouldn’t be)

I’m all for a debate of whether MCPS can pull things back together, but to say it’s just a bunch of whiny parents is sticking your head in the sand.

She didn't. She said it was one whiny parent with a right wing agenda.

I agree.

But I wanted to thank you, whiny parent with a right wing agenda. You provide me with literally hours of free entertainment. And you're great for my writer's block. Say something more dumb again. Come on! Ya know you want (have?) To do it?

It’s not one whiny parent. You just hurl insults with nothing to back it up. Again, I’m up for a civilized debate if you need to practice your writing skills. MCPS numbers literally show enrollment is down. It’s impossible to tell whether those people who left are wealthy or not.

Apologies. Civilized people are so bougie.

The person who said there are similar complaints in the VA school threads is the wisest one in our virtual room.

Oh. I didn’t realize the title of the thread was are VA schools doing better? Oh wait, it’s not. It’s about comparing MCPS public to private. Not MCPS to another district.

Actually the title of the thread wasn’t about comparing MCPS to any other district or private. The folks in the thread tried to make it about that. Further, comparing MCPS to private is a worthless as there are too many variables, starting with size, population, regulations, and the fact that public can always be a backup to private bit the other is not at all true.

Because it's not a real argument.

I really do enjoy how the trolls keep trying with us and keep breaking themselves. Like waves against a sharp coral reef. They dissolve, repeat, and break again. Over and over. I think on the other school boards they gain more traction.

I am proud of us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/mcps-enrollment-declines-for-second-consecutive-year-after-decade-of-growth/

Interesting tidbits from that article:

Enrollment in nearly every grade decreased this year, except kindergarten and ninth grade. Ninth grade usually sees larger increases than other grades because many students make the transition from private or parochial school to public school at that time, Karamihas said.

Enrollment decreases over the past two years are not unique to MCPS.

Recent research from the Brookings Institute showed that public school enrollment has decreased nationwide, largely in pre-kindergarten and kindergarten. An NPR poll of 60 districts across the country showed an average enrollment drop of 16% in kindergarten.

Another problem plaguing school district enrollment involves routine vaccinations.

In Maryland, nearly 23,000 students do not have the required immunizations to attend school, like the meningococcal and tetanus, diphtheria and pertussis vaccines.

So, while some have left MCPS for private, seems like some private school students have come into MCPS, and Kers aren't leaving in droves.

I have two kids - 8th and 11th grade -- and per MCPS "at a glance", those two years are one of the largest classes. I guess there was a baby boom around those years.

Also, it's not just MCPS. It's an issue across the country.

[Anonymous]

In our W feeder neighborhood many went home school route.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It sure seems like many affluent in Bethesda/ Potomac, Chevy Chase are exiting MCPS in droves. Has anyone else observed this happening?

There's no evidence to support this. People seem to be happy with the exception of a few far-right posters that like to stir up trouble.

Didn’t MCPS release numbers last year that showed numbers were down?
No one seems happy with the MAP scores that were released (at least they shouldn’t be)

I’m all for a debate of whether MCPS can pull things back together, but to say it’s just a bunch of whiny parents is sticking your head in the sand.

She didn't. She said it was one whiny parent with a right wing agenda.

I agree.

But I wanted to thank you, whiny parent with a right wing agenda. You provide me with literally hours of free entertainment. And you're great for my writer's block. Say something more dumb again. Come on! Ya know you want (have?) To do it?

It’s not one whiny parent. You just hurl insults with nothing to back it up. Again, I’m up for a civilized debate if you need to practice your writing skills. MCPS numbers literally show enrollment is down. It’s impossible to tell whether those people who left are wealthy or not.

Apologies. Civilized people are so bougie.

The person who said there are similar complaints in the VA school threads is the wisest one in our virtual room.

Oh. I didn’t realize the title of the thread was are VA schools doing better? Oh wait, it’s not. It’s about comparing MCPS public to private. Not MCPS to another district.

Actually the title of the thread wasn’t about comparing MCPS to any other district or private. The folks in the thread tried to make it about that. Further, comparing MCPS to private is a worthless as there are too many variables, starting with size, population, regulations, and the fact that public can always be a backup to private bit the other is not at all true.

Maybe it’s not to you, but it’s really semantics. People leave because they think the other option is better. No one leaves if they’re happy with status quo. So it’s fundamental to the discussion.

[Anonymous]

No the wealthy aren't leaving. They're staying put in Bethesda, Potomac and in their wealthy neighborhoods where their kids can continue attending the W schools. The people leaving are the middle class families who are at problem schools but can't afford the crazy housing prices in the MoCo neighborhoods with better schools. They're the ones leaving for places like Frederick.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:See all the empty housing… ohh wait.

You are an idiot. Leaving MCPS <> leaving MoCo.

Actually leaving Moco does = leaving MCPS

The birth rate declined in 2008-2013 nationwide. There was a natural decline in babies being born, also less people are getting married and having kids.

That doesn’t mean they are leaving MCPS.

Enrollments in all grades decreased. Ninth usually has the biggest decrease. A declining birth rate doesn’t explain the declining enrollments in those grades.
It is more than a natural decline.

Nope. 9th increased.

https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/schools/mcps-enrollment-declines-for-second-consecutive-year-after-decade-of-growth/

Again, the ^PP is an idiot.

Just because there aren't that many empty houses in MoCo doesn't mean MCPS didn't see a decline in enrollment. It clearly did since MCPS' own numbers reflect that.

[Anonymous]

Much of our neighborhood left for private during the pandemic. Especially kids who needed extra support.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s plainly true that many people with the means left MCPS over the last two years in the wealthiest clusters. Out neighborhood pre pandemic was like 30-40% private. Now it is closer to 70%. Most that made the switch aren’t coming back. So definitely fewer wealthy families using public in our neighborhood but it is not everyone by any means.

BS

I don’t know why people find this hard to believe, but it’s true. This is one of the wealthier neighborhoods in the county so it’s not representative. But there has been a strong exodus to private.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s plainly true that many people with the means left MCPS over the last two years in the wealthiest clusters. Out neighborhood pre pandemic was like 30-40% private. Now it is closer to 70%. Most that made the switch aren’t coming back. So definitely fewer wealthy families using public in our neighborhood but it is not everyone by any means.

BS

I don’t know why people find this hard to believe, but it’s true. This is one of the wealthier neighborhoods in the county so it’s not representative. But there has been a strong exodus to private.

Many will realize the privates here aren’t much better. This coming from a parent of a student at a top boys school in DC.