Do men see women as people?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am a woman. This post is infuriating. Many men see women as people, some do not. Many women see men as people and some see them as wallets.

Black and white thinking is rarely good.

+1!

[Anonymous]

I think many humans see women as "other". Similar to how some people view immigrants or those of other religions/races.

They may be people but they're secondary. Disposable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because there zero woman who only want a man for the D?

Lol. Thanks for the laugh. The big D is the very last thing I think about. If they aren't good people I don't care how big it is.

Only men like to think that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think many humans see women as "other". Similar to how some people view immigrants or those of other religions/races.

They may be people but they're secondary. Disposable.

Women are completely incapable of putting themselves in a man's shoes and seeing the world as he does. Counts as "othering" in my book.

And you don't know what "disposable" is until you've been a man who is no longer useful to a woman.

[Anonymous]

I will never forget in college, learning about this study that said 30% of college-aged men would rape a woman if they knew they could 100% get away with it. Just try walking around in the world knowing 1/3rd of men are predators.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:yes, men see women as people. However, I do think that many men (not all) are conditioned to see women in a sexual manner before they see them as a person, but they get there. Some biology, mostly society

Men see potential sexual partners as such. That’s not conditioning.

what word would you use to replace "conditioned"?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Women do not see men as people. A woman only views a man in terms of the man's immediate utility to her life - "what is he doing for me right now?" As soon as his utility is zero, he most definitely won't be a person to her any more, just an annoyance.

You do know that women tend to stick around in a marriage when the husband has cancer at a much higher rate than when it’s the opposite. This refutes your statement that women are opportunists.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I will never forget in college, learning about this study that said 30% of college-aged men would rape a woman if they knew they could 100% get away with it. Just try walking around in the world knowing 1/3rd of men are predators.

I never forget what I learned in college which was that the majority of psychology papers are bullsh!t, either completely fraudulent or with results that can't be replicated. Just try walking around in the world knowing that this study is undoubtedly nonsense and you'll feel a lot better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Women do not see men as people. A woman only views a man in terms of the man's immediate utility to her life - "what is he doing for me right now?" As soon as his utility is zero, he most definitely won't be a person to her any more, just an annoyance.

You do know that women tend to stick around in a marriage when the husband has cancer at a much higher rate than when it’s the opposite. This refutes your statement that women are opportunists.

Women initiate the vast majority of divorces which refutes your claim that women are not opportunistic.

[Anonymous]

Some do, some don't.

Something I heard the other day is that men are socialized to not like women. They are actually socialized to feel a measure of contempt toward us and "feminine" attributes. They are taught that they should aspire to be the exact opposite of us.

Women are shorter? The ideal man is tall. Women are in tune with their emotions? The ideal man would never cry. Women like to make their surroundings beautiful? The ideal man is happy to live in an apartment with no pictures on the wall. Women are nurturing? The ideal job for a man are those involving lots of power and no caretaking. Women need a loving context to enjoy physical intimacy? The ideal man has lots of one night stands.

Man up, don't be a pussy, don't throw like a girl, etc. etc. etc.

So for men who are wrapped up in these ideas, women are not people but just a foil to make their manhood look stronger.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Women do not see men as people. A woman only views a man in terms of the man's immediate utility to her life - "what is he doing for me right now?" As soon as his utility is zero, he most definitely won't be a person to her any more, just an annoyance.

You do know that women tend to stick around in a marriage when the husband has cancer at a much higher rate than when it’s the opposite. This refutes your statement that women are opportunists.

Women initiate the vast majority of divorces which refutes your claim that women are not opportunistic.

How is initiating a divorce an opportunistic move?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think many humans see women as "other". Similar to how some people view immigrants or those of other religions/races.

They may be people but they're secondary. Disposable.

Women are completely incapable of putting themselves in a man's shoes and seeing the world as he does. Counts as "othering" in my book.

And you don't know what "disposable" is until you've been a man who is no longer useful to a woman.

Sounds like you've been hurt, but that is no reason to assume that billions of people are incapable of empathy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Women do not see men as people. A woman only views a man in terms of the man's immediate utility to her life - "what is he doing for me right now?" As soon as his utility is zero, he most definitely won't be a person to her any more, just an annoyance.

Tell that to my mom who feeds, bathes, clothes, pulls and pushes my wheelchair Dad around everywhere without any thank you or any effort on his part to take care of himself. His utility was gone a long time ago but she still treats him like a person and he treats her like a servant.

[Anonymous]

What does it even mean to "see women as people"?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Women do not see men as people. A woman only views a man in terms of the man's immediate utility to her life - "what is he doing for me right now?" As soon as his utility is zero, he most definitely won't be a person to her any more, just an annoyance.

You do know that women tend to stick around in a marriage when the husband has cancer at a much higher rate than when it’s the opposite. This refutes your statement that women are opportunists.

Women initiate the vast majority of divorces which refutes your claim that women are not opportunistic.

How is initiating a divorce an opportunistic move?

The man is no longer providing the physical/emotional fulfillment she demands, or she's interested in some other guy, and she can get cash and prizes by divorcing him.