Do men see women as people?

[Anonymous]

I think many, perhaps most, do. I also think the proportion is increasing over time. On the other hand, the fact that it is “optional” and that many men do not view women as people and never will, is an enduring problem. I believe it reflects the difference in threat posed by men to women than Vice versa.

[Anonymous]

Most don’t. You are either an object of desire, to be passed over once something newer and more exciting comes along. Or you’re a distant fantasy with no actual feelings or life of your own.

[Anonymous]

No, just three warm holes to choose from… 😈

[Anonymous]

Not unless they want sex exactly as much and the way they do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some do, some don't.

Something I heard the other day is that men are socialized to not like women. They are actually socialized to feel a measure of contempt toward us and "feminine" attributes. They are taught that they should aspire to be the exact opposite of us.

Women are shorter? The ideal man is tall. Women are in tune with their emotions? The ideal man would never cry. Women like to make their surroundings beautiful? The ideal man is happy to live in an apartment with no pictures on the wall. Women are nurturing? The ideal job for a man are those involving lots of power and no caretaking. Women need a loving context to enjoy physical intimacy? The ideal man has lots of one night stands.

Man up, don't be a pussy, don't throw like a girl, etc. etc. etc.

So for men who are wrapped up in these ideas, women are not people but just a foil to make their manhood look stronger.

Thank you for these words. There were a group of men that used to make fun of women every weekend and I wondered why anyone would spend their time doing that week after week. This is why. Women made them look stronger. Also I think it was a way of them trying to shed off their femininity. If I hate on women I’ll deny my feminine self and be more masculine. No one told these guys that they’d also be less whole. I think it’s part nurture from the parents and friends as they grow up and then also boy groups just doing immature things that sometimes men don’t grow out of.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Most don’t. You are either an object of desire, to be passed over once something newer and more exciting comes along. Or you’re a distant fantasy with no actual feelings or life of your own.

I have been with my DH for 20 years. He has had the opportunity to “pass me over” but based on our extremely healthy sex life and our overall relationship he very much still desires me. And I have a great life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most don’t. You are either an object of desire, to be passed over once something newer and more exciting comes along. Or you’re a distant fantasy with no actual feelings or life of your own.

I have been with my DH for 20 years. He has had the opportunity to “pass me over” but based on our extremely healthy sex life and our overall relationship he very much still desires me. And I have a great life.

I hope you’re right. I know some women like you who think this and sadly have no idea what their husband is up to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Based on my five centuries on this planet, I’ve concluded that somewhere between 10-20% of men are pretty awful beings who will do whatever they think they can get away with. When I was younger, I would have thought it was more like 1%….but then you hear all the stories about the perfectly nice boy in college who is a huge date rapist, or the nice teacher who is molesting kids, or the guy at the office who beats his wife. And that’s on top of all the guys in prison for murder, rape, assault, etc. there just a lot of men out there who don’t have real empathy. Women too., but those numbers are much lower. Or at least they are less likely to act on their lack of empathy in ways that physically hurt other people.

+1 Well said

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Most don’t. You are either an object of desire, to be passed over once something newer and more exciting comes along. Or you’re a distant fantasy with no actual feelings or life of your own.

+1. Some men primarily look at women as objects of sexual desire first. They scan every woman for attractiveness. They may work with her, or be someone in their community. They only talk to friends about the ones they think are hot. Never about how they are as people - ie the desk worker at the hotel was nice, professional, and didn’t make me wait forever. Only whether she was hot.

These men do not look at women as people - just sex objects. They may look at someone they know personally in another light. But all other women are sorted through a sexual lens.

[Anonymous]

No, they see us as precious little fairies who flutter into their lives to make everything better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not all. I once watched a TV documentary where African men were being interviewed about a girl they had raped. They just kept repeating about how the experience and being caught had impacted on them. When asked how the girl felt the guys looked completely baffled and didn't understand the question.

They were asked three times how the girl would have felt and they openly admitted it didn't matter, didn't think of her, didn't understand what was being asked of them. They openly said women's feelings don't matter.

I guess that's no different to Trump saying you can grab them on the pussie and they don't say anything. It would never occur to him to consider how the female might feel.

So not all men but yes definitely some men have demonstrated openly they don't see women as people.

Lol seriously you're inserting politics in this conversation? So how do you feel about Biden and his groping and touching women? China's one child rule and it's effect on many couples preferring boys over girls? Girls went straight to orphanages. A farm worker in India said she had buried all the baby girls she had meaning killed them in a documentary. Women get raped in India and there's no justice. Trumps comment was in jest when he was exchanging banter with Seacrest during a Hollywood interview.

[Anonymous]

A man will judge your looks and your a s s before your mind. And that goes even when he is your teacher or boss unfortunately.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most don’t. You are either an object of desire, to be passed over once something newer and more exciting comes along. Or you’re a distant fantasy with no actual feelings or life of your own.

+1. Some men primarily look at women as objects of sexual desire first. They scan every woman for attractiveness. They may work with her, or be someone in their community. They only talk to friends about the ones they think are hot. Never about how they are as people - ie the desk worker at the hotel was nice, professional, and didn’t make me wait forever. Only whether she was hot.

These men do not look at women as people - just sex objects. They may look at someone they know personally in another light. But all other women are sorted through a sexual lens.

Yes, but we tell our friends all the time about the male desk worked at the hotel who was friendly and competent. Just go on and on talking about that guy.

What a dumb example.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A man will judge your looks and your a s s before your mind. And that goes even when he is your teacher or boss unfortunately.

Because woman always gravitate toward the fat, dirty, balding, men with an empty wallet? If men wanted to walk down the street with a troll they would just buy a Trolls key chain.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A man will judge your looks and your a s s before your mind. And that goes even when he is your teacher or boss unfortunately.

Because woman always gravitate toward the fat, dirty, balding, men with an empty wallet? If men wanted to walk down the street with a troll they would just buy a Trolls key chain.

You don't make sense.