Chappelle Visit at Duke Ellington

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Anonymous wrote:So any lgbtq students were required to listen to this bigot?

Gmafb.

+1,000,000

He is not a bigot. Just because you get your news from tweets, doesn’t mean you can label anyone a bigot you want. As a queer black woman, I thoroughly agreed with his sentiments in his last special. He made himself pretty clear and it does make sense. He said he was jealous of the LGBT movement. That does not make one a bigot.

New poster. I would not say that he's jealous of the movement. He believes it's over the top, ridiculous, and unworthy of the power it's earned so fast compared to the power of brown and black people after centuries of oppression.

He juxtaposes the minute and seemingly trivial things that the LGBTQ community rallies for with the basics belief that Black people deserve equal rights/to be treated just the same as White people, and continues on to compare how the world has changed much faster and easier for the LGBTQ community than it has for the Black community.

Pointing out facts in an uncomfortable way doesn't make him a bigot.

-Queer person

Exactly. Why is it that society is expected to coddle people who question their gender, but not expected to value and protect the lives of black people?

[Anonymous]

Why are you all falling for the oldest trick in the book? Divide and conquer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why are you all falling for the oldest trick in the book? Divide and conquer.

Historically, black people have been put in a position of not being able to trust anyone. That has served the powers that be well. If they can provide a new enemy to distract us, then we're all too distracted and confused to rise up against the real enemy. The BLM protests nationwide and worldwide in the summer of 2020 gave me hope for humanity, but how many black people have to die for society to acknowledge that we have a serious problem that needs to be fixed. It may take a catastrophe to bring about change or people can work together for fair treatment of all.

[Anonymous]

How do you cut cell service?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why are you all falling for the oldest trick in the book? Divide and conquer.

The responses are by black queer people. You cannot divide intersectional identity. The queer person who lost his job at Netflix for complaining about their perception of heterosexist content in Chapelle’s show black. Would he have been fired if he was white?

There is a lot of subtlety in Chapelle’s message and quite a bit of confirmation that the joke may be on us regarding the response.

If you haven’t watched please take a look at the show before commenting. Just his revelation of his survivorship of sexual abuse was uncomfortable yet empowering for other survivors.

The whole show made me very uncomfortable, but I think that was the point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So any lgbtq students were required to listen to this bigot?

Gmafb.

+1,000,000

He is not a bigot. Just because you get your news from tweets, doesn’t mean you can label anyone a bigot you want. As a queer black woman, I thoroughly agreed with his sentiments in his last special. He made himself pretty clear and it does make sense. He said he was jealous of the LGBT movement. That does not make one a bigot.

New poster. I would not say that he's jealous of the movement. He believes it's over the top, ridiculous, and unworthy of the power it's earned so fast compared to the power of brown and black people after centuries of oppression.

He juxtaposes the minute and seemingly trivial things that the LGBTQ community rallies for with the basics belief that Black people deserve equal rights/to be treated just the same as White people, and continues on to compare how the world has changed much faster and easier for the LGBTQ community than it has for the Black community.

Pointing out facts in an uncomfortable way doesn't make him a bigot.

-Queer person

Exactly. Why is it that society is expected to coddle people who question their gender, but not expected to value and protect the lives of black people?

The pejorative use of the term “coddle” shows just how homophobic/transphobic you are. These are the same lines being used against the BLM movement by the alt right.

The fact that black people (rightfully) demand equity and are a-ok with hating on the gay/trans community is a real blind spot.

[Anonymous]

He also said “ Every human being in this room, every human being on earth, had to pass through the legs of a woman to be on earth. This is a fact.”

Which is clearly wrong. Weird he is so off base but sometime heroes fall.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So any lgbtq students were required to listen to this bigot?

Gmafb.

+1,000,000

He is not a bigot. Just because you get your news from tweets, doesn’t mean you can label anyone a bigot you want. As a queer black woman, I thoroughly agreed with his sentiments in his last special. He made himself pretty clear and it does make sense. He said he was jealous of the LGBT movement. That does not make one a bigot.

New poster. I would not say that he's jealous of the movement. He believes it's over the top, ridiculous, and unworthy of the power it's earned so fast compared to the power of brown and black people after centuries of oppression.

He juxtaposes the minute and seemingly trivial things that the LGBTQ community rallies for with the basics belief that Black people deserve equal rights/to be treated just the same as White people, and continues on to compare how the world has changed much faster and easier for the LGBTQ community than it has for the Black community.

Pointing out facts in an uncomfortable way doesn't make him a bigot.

-Queer person

Exactly. Why is it that society is expected to coddle people who question their gender, but not expected to value and protect the lives of black people?

The pejorative use of the term “coddle” shows just how homophobic/transphobic you are. These are the same lines being used against the BLM movement by the alt right.

The fact that black people (rightfully) demand equity and are a-ok with hating on the gay/trans community is a real blind spot.

Coddle means to handle gently, which is the message I have received. I am to be at least neutral and definitely not question anyone's lived experience. Transgender people are a stark minority in this country, yet they somehow are more protected than black people, many of whom are in this country because of the slave trade and US slavery practices. I don't see anyone taking it easy on black folks, who have been enslaved, Jim Crowed, lynched, discriminated against, disenfranchised, etc on a vast scale for over 400 years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He also said “ Every human being in this room, every human being on earth, had to pass through the legs of a woman to be on earth. This is a fact.”

Which is clearly wrong. Weird he is so off base but sometime heroes fall.

You know what he meant. Every human being had to gestate in a woman's womb. Is that more apt or have you figured out how to grow a human in a machine?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He also said “ Every human being in this room, every human being on earth, had to pass through the legs of a woman to be on earth. This is a fact.”

Which is clearly wrong. Weird he is so off base but sometime heroes fall.

How can this be wrong? Which human being wasn’t born from a woman? Or are you distinguishing between natural birth and C-section? That’s missing the point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Dave Chappelle was at Ellington yesterday to talk with the students. It doesn't sound like it went very well.

The school locked all of the kids’ phones so they couldn’t take video, and the assembly was after school ended and for an hour. Parents got an email about it about 10 minutes after it started, but many parents were waiting to pick up their kids and had no idea what was happening. Dave showed up at the end of the school day, making the kids stay an extra hour while they could not text their parents to let them know where they were.
When one girl walked out, he shouted after her that they were better off without her. When kids stood up to him and said that his words were harmful, he berated them.

Regardless of where you stand on Chappelle and the direction his comedy is taking, what on earth was the school thinking to keep kids after without access to contact their parents or without proper notice? And at a school with trans kids, why prioritize their famous alumni vs. the students who are there now? Star worship at its worst.

So you are saying the school just added an after school assembly with no notice to the parents or was the assembly planned but the school did not disclose DC was there?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why are you all falling for the oldest trick in the book? Divide and conquer.

The responses are by black queer people. You cannot divide intersectional identity. The queer person who lost his job at Netflix for complaining about their perception of heterosexist content in Chapelle’s show black. Would he have been fired if he was white?

There is a lot of subtlety in Chapelle’s message and quite a bit of confirmation that the joke may be on us regarding the response.

If you haven’t watched please take a look at the show before commenting. Just his revelation of his survivorship of sexual abuse was uncomfortable yet empowering for other survivors.

The whole show made me very uncomfortable, but I think that was the point.

I’ve seen the show. Have loved Chappelle for a long time. He is in the wrong here though I certainly understand his message and what he was trying to convey. He’s still using another marginalized group to make his point about white supremacy (and also about comedy and artistic license). It’s absolutely transphobic. Let’s make the argument his is making another way. It’s possible. Fight the real enemy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He also said “ Every human being in this room, every human being on earth, had to pass through the legs of a woman to be on earth. This is a fact.”

Which is clearly wrong. Weird he is so off base but sometime heroes fall.

How can this be wrong? Which human being wasn’t born from a woman? Or are you distinguishing between natural birth and C-section? That’s missing the point.

Well clearly people born by c section do not pass through legs. I’m a human being on earth that did not “pass through legs”

You are missing the point. He made a statement, called it fact and he was wrong. Some pass through a stomach, some pass through a vagina (pass through legs)… just say vagina FFS, why is he saying legs anyway it’s Dave Chapelle is he afraid to say va-j-j.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He also said “ Every human being in this room, every human being on earth, had to pass through the legs of a woman to be on earth. This is a fact.”

Which is clearly wrong. Weird he is so off base but sometime heroes fall.

How can this be wrong? Which human being wasn’t born from a woman? Or are you distinguishing between natural birth and C-section? That’s missing the point.

Well clearly people born by c section do not pass through legs. I’m a human being on earth that did not “pass through legs”

You are missing the point. He made a statement, called it fact and he was wrong. Some pass through a stomach, some pass through a vagina (pass through legs)… just say vagina FFS, why is he saying legs anyway it’s Dave Chapelle is he afraid to say va-j-j.

You don't understand. That's okay. Maybe someday the lights will come on and you'll be able to see.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He also said “ Every human being in this room, every human being on earth, had to pass through the legs of a woman to be on earth. This is a fact.”

Which is clearly wrong. Weird he is so off base but sometime heroes fall.

Scientifically, he is correct. Only biological women give birth, i.e., their biological sex is female at birth, and have a uterus and ovaries, although for their gender they could identify as male.