Excellent podcast from Politico from youngkin strategists on how they won — must read/listen

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Anonymous wrote:Youngkin’s win was due to good old fashioned Southern Strategy. They can try to dress it up all that want, but it doesn’t change reality.

I have no doubt this makes you feel better about the terrible campaign McAuliffe waged, but it is both delusional and self-defeating. Wise up.

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Excuse after ridiculous excuse... when are Dems going to simply admit no one wanted what they were selling? People are on to them.

Given that nearly half of Virginia voters cast a ballot for McAuliffe, I’d say a lot of people preferred McAuliffe to Youngkin. You’re acting like the election was a blow-out when in reality Youngkin won by less than 2 points.

Democrats blew an easy win with a well known candidate in a state that was sharply trending blue a year ago. But it's okay. I don't expect most Democrats to understand how much they are alienating the middle until after they lose in 2024, hopefully not to Trump.

From day one, no one thought McAuliffe would be an easy win this year. You are rewriting history.

You can get an idea of what people thought from predictit's 90 day chart
https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/7001/Which-party-will-win-the-2021-Virginia-gubernatorial-election

McAuliffe was the heavy favorite (and leading in the polls) until the last week or two.

But at this point, I am not surprised at progressives trying to rewrite history so that they don't have to change course.

I thought Youngkin was a possibility but still thought McAuliffe was likely to win. I just couldn’t imagine a ton of voters supporting a pro-life Trump Republican spreading lies. Guess there were more than I was expecting.

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Anonymous wrote:Dems blew it by keeping schools closed for an unreasonably long time, losing suburban women swing voters. They lost me too, and im a lifelong democrat in DC who hates Trump. Wheres the alternative in our party? Do better, Dems.

You're selfish and pathetic. There's a great big world out there, and not everything revolves around your snowflakes.

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Anonymous wrote:Dems blew it by keeping schools closed for an unreasonably long time, losing suburban women swing voters. They lost me too, and im a lifelong democrat in DC who hates Trump. Wheres the alternative in our party? Do better, Dems.

You're selfish and pathetic. There's a great big world out there, and not everything revolves around your snowflakes.

Keep it up. The more ridiculously partisan Adam Parkhomenko types on display, the more the Democrats will continue to lose voters.

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I am so sick of the whining over "they closed the schools!!!" The schools were re-opened long before election day. The worst that could be said was that the Democrats were too cautious in responding to a 100-year pandemic that was killing thousands of people. And because of that you stick us with Youngkin?

You're a bunch of Karens.

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Anonymous wrote:Dems blew it by keeping schools closed for an unreasonably long time, losing suburban women swing voters. They lost me too, and im a lifelong democrat in DC who hates Trump. Wheres the alternative in our party? Do better, Dems.

You're selfish and pathetic. There's a great big world out there, and not everything revolves around your snowflakes.

Keep it up. The more ridiculously partisan Adam Parkhomenko types on display, the more the Democrats will continue to lose voters.

Ok, thanks. I will.

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Anonymous wrote:I am so sick of the whining over "they closed the schools!!!" The schools were re-opened long before election day. The worst that could be said was that the Democrats were too cautious in responding to a 100-year pandemic that was killing thousands of people. And because of that you stick us with Youngkin?

Exactly.

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Anonymous wrote:Dems blew it by keeping schools closed for an unreasonably long time, losing suburban women swing voters. They lost me too, and im a lifelong democrat in DC who hates Trump. Wheres the alternative in our party? Do better, Dems.

You're selfish and pathetic. There's a great big world out there, and not everything revolves around your snowflakes.

And you think this kind of reaction represents a good electoral strategy???

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Anonymous wrote:Dems blew it by keeping schools closed for an unreasonably long time, losing suburban women swing voters. They lost me too, and im a lifelong democrat in DC who hates Trump. Wheres the alternative in our party? Do better, Dems.

You're selfish and pathetic. There's a great big world out there, and not everything revolves around your snowflakes.

And you think this kind of reaction represents a good electoral strategy???

I don't care. No so-called "lifelong democrat" turns on the party and supports Youngkin on the single issue of schools being closed for too long WHEN THEY WERE LONG AGO REOPENED.

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Anonymous wrote:Come on now, you aren't seeing alllllllll of the sexism inherent in deriding women who were 1) disproportionately hurt in terms of employment and well-being by school closures, 2) pushing for faster school reopening because they felt their children were being hurt by the closures?

So you voted for the candidate and party who is for defunding public schools (go charters, let’s ramp up that graft like you have in DC), and opposed universal day care and parental leave? What a shell game.

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Anonymous wrote:I am so sick of the whining over "they closed the schools!!!" The schools were re-opened long before election day. The worst that could be said was that the Democrats were too cautious in responding to a 100-year pandemic that was killing thousands of people. And because of that you stick us with Youngkin?

You're a bunch of Karens.

I mean, you can keep repeating that way all the way to continued defeat at the ballot box. There were serious harms done by school closures - harms that are still being felt today. A lot of people aren't soon going to forget that. And yeah, now the Democratic claims to be on the side of kids and equity rings EXTREMELY false to me now ... and I'm a true believer. Imagine how it sounds to swing voters, or to less motivated voters for GOTV.

I was also on DCUM predicting that the AG letter on school boards was going to contribute to a Youngkin win, to the great derision of our host. I was right about that too.

Schools and masks have enervated some previously active Ds (like me) and will swing some other Biden voters to Trump and his proxies.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dems blew it by keeping schools closed for an unreasonably long time, losing suburban women swing voters. They lost me too, and im a lifelong democrat in DC who hates Trump. Wheres the alternative in our party? Do better, Dems.

You're selfish and pathetic. There's a great big world out there, and not everything revolves around your snowflakes.

And you think this kind of reaction represents a good electoral strategy???

I don't care. No so-called "lifelong democrat" turns on the party and supports Youngkin on the single issue of schools being closed for too long WHEN THEY WERE LONG AGO REOPENED.

Where do you think this line of argument is going to lead you? You can accept reality, or not. I don't vote in Virginia, but if I did, I would not have voted for Youngkin. But the schools issue was entirely likely to erode D votes. You can claim that this is just a cover for racism all you want, but I'm not sure where that belief is going to get you. Step outside your bubble for a second and realize how totally bizarre it is to a lot of people to be simultaneously the party shutting down schools, and the party that claims it cares about working families and closing educational gaps. Dems lost A LOT of credibility.

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Anonymous wrote:Come on now, you aren't seeing alllllllll of the sexism inherent in deriding women who were 1) disproportionately hurt in terms of employment and well-being by school closures, 2) pushing for faster school reopening because they felt their children were being hurt by the closures?

So you voted for the candidate and party who is for defunding public schools (go charters, let’s ramp up that graft like you have in DC), and opposed universal day care and parental leave? What a shell game.

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DP. I am ABSOLUTELY a huge charter/school choice supporter now -- huge change from my beliefs pre-pandemic. I vote in DC so this isn't about Youngkin, but you best believe that I will be supporting only candidates that believe in school choice in DC.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dems blew it by keeping schools closed for an unreasonably long time, losing suburban women swing voters. They lost me too, and im a lifelong democrat in DC who hates Trump. Wheres the alternative in our party? Do better, Dems.

You're selfish and pathetic. There's a great big world out there, and not everything revolves around your snowflakes.

And you think this kind of reaction represents a good electoral strategy???

I don't care. No so-called "lifelong democrat" turns on the party and supports Youngkin on the single issue of schools being closed for too long WHEN THEY WERE LONG AGO REOPENED.

Where do you think this line of argument is going to lead you? You can accept reality, or not. I don't vote in Virginia, but if I did, I would not have voted for Youngkin. But the schools issue was entirely likely to erode D votes. You can claim that this is just a cover for racism all you want, but I'm not sure where that belief is going to get you. Step outside your bubble for a second and realize how totally bizarre it is to a lot of people to be simultaneously the party shutting down schools, and the party that claims it cares about working families and closing educational gaps. Dems lost A LOT of credibility.

It's not just about the reopening. It's about the fact that there is no attempt to reverse the learning loss, that Covid funds were spent on curriculum consultants rather than the children. It's about the fact that kids were repeatedly thrown under the bus and Northam did nothing to stand up and fight for the kids. I voted McAuliffe because I worry that Youngkin is another DeSantis - but I understand why other parents wanted to send a message to the democrats that "It's the Children, Stupid."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Youngkin’s win was due to good old fashioned Southern Strategy. They can try to dress it up all that want, but it doesn’t change reality.

I have no doubt this makes you feel better about the terrible campaign McAuliffe waged, but it is both delusional and self-defeating. Wise up.

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Excuse after ridiculous excuse... when are Dems going to simply admit no one wanted what they were selling? People are on to them.

You're right -- why WOULD racists want to become actual decent human beings with real morals & ethics, rather than that weaponized version they use touting out God in every argument? 🤔

Mischaracterizing more than half the population as racist only hurts you, and prevents you from seeing the real reason Youngkin won. Democrats (all across the country) need to realize their current ideas are not as popular as they wished. And for valid reasons.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Youngkin’s win was due to good old fashioned Southern Strategy. They can try to dress it up all that want, but it doesn’t change reality.

I have no doubt this makes you feel better about the terrible campaign McAuliffe waged, but it is both delusional and self-defeating. Wise up.

+100
Excuse after ridiculous excuse... when are Dems going to simply admit no one wanted what they were selling? People are on to them.

Given that nearly half of Virginia voters cast a ballot for McAuliffe, I’d say a lot of people preferred McAuliffe to Youngkin. You’re acting like the election was a blow-out when in reality Youngkin won by less than 2 points.

Democrats blew an easy win with a well known candidate in a state that was sharply trending blue a year ago. But it's okay. I don't expect most Democrats to understand how much they are alienating the middle until after they lose in 2024, hopefully not to Trump.

From day one, no one thought McAuliffe would be an easy win this year. You are rewriting history.

You can get an idea of what people thought from predictit's 90 day chart
https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/7001/Which-party-will-win-the-2021-Virginia-gubernatorial-election

McAuliffe was the heavy favorite (and leading in the polls) until the last week or two.

But at this point, I am not surprised at progressives trying to rewrite history so that they don't have to change course.

Thinking someone is more likely to win isn’t the same thing as saying it would be an easy win. If you thinking the most likely scenario is candidate A winning by 1.2 points, then you can, at the same time, believe A will win but that it will be a close race and therefore not “easy.”

This is why the implications of polling and statistical analysis is lost on so many laypeople. Odds of winning and magnitude of lead are not the same thing.

This is just a condescending way to say your personal fact-free opinion trumps actual evidence.