Did Ellen Greenberg’s fiancé kill her?
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Anonymous
No, I don't think it's a mean-girl burn. My interpretation is that she is saying even though she no longer has a body perfect enough that she would feel comfortable sitting in the front row in only a sports bra, she is still grateful. |
Anonymous
She reads as a typical spoiled shit who got a no-work “fashion” “career” handed to her, and who looked past a probable murderer fiancé because Daddy could buy her a Manhattan coop. Besides the murder, the rest isn’t that unusual in NYC. I feel so sorry for Ellen’s parents. I can’t imagine how strong they are to fight this. Like, no, she did not react weirdly to medication and cut herself to death. Her loser of a boyfriend - I’m sure such a good boy according to the parents who made that thing - did it. This case makes me so goddamned mad. |
Anonymous
| Hmmm, Sam is left hand and Ellen was right but her left hand was place over the knife in her chest…I’m just saying for a friend seems odd! |
Anonymous
| Darn, I was hoping for an update. Why do people bump old threads with no update??! |
Anonymous
| I JUST listened to this on Crime Junkie and got excited that there was an update! 1000% the fiancé did it. He had judges cover up his tracks. |
Anonymous
Agree. So upsetting that he walks free with new wife and kids. |
Anonymous
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Daily Mail (UK) has a big article on this! Needs everyone's input!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11166011/Cops-REOPEN-case-woman-stabbed-20-times-ruled-suicide-killer.html |
Anonymous
| Holy Moly! I used to work with Sam’s wife back in the day at Scoop. She was the Men’s buyer. |
Anonymous
| "You better have an excuse" is the whole story in a nutshell. That man guilty as sin. |
Anonymous
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Nancy Grace is on it:
"The Chester County District Attorney’s Office is conducting an outside investigation into the case after years of activism from Greenberg’s family and reluctance to intervene on the parts of Philadelphia District Attorney Larry Krasner and Pennsylvania Attorney General Josh Shapiro, who referred the case back and forth before the Chester probe. Tom Brennan, a former state police trooper for 25 years and private investigator the family hired almost a decade ago, told Fox News Digital that through depositions in a civil lawsuit, the family discovered last year that Greenberg suffered a 6.5 centimeter wound to the back of her head after her heart stopped beating." So the Philly DA and PA state AG kept bouncing it back and forth hoping it would go away??? https://www.foxnews.com/us/philadelphia-suicide-designation-woman-20-stab-wounds-bruises-ignores-homicide-evidence-experts Also the original medical examiner who changed it from homicide to suicide? Dr. Marlon Osbourne, pathologist in his office who handled Greenberg’s case? Guess where he is now? Palm Beach Medical Examiner and he's handling the Parkdale murders!!! https://www.sportskeeda.com/pop-culture/news-who-dr-marlon-osbourne-medical-examiner-details-autopsy-reports-parkland-victims-nikolas-cruz-sentencing-trial If Cruz gets a retrial because this pathologist bungled things... > 
Anyway, he certainly seemed either incompetent or compromised in the Greenberg case. Getting a job in Palm Beach 3 years later seems like a nice move up from Philly (at least before Parkland). One would think a county like Palm Beach with lots of money would hire the best. Why would they choose this guy??? |
Anonymous
| It upsets me that people are pinning this on her mental health issues and medications. How can people think that anxiety is a more likely cause of death than an abusive partner??? Plus some drugs used to treat mental health issues do come with a warning about an increased risk of suicidal ideation, but that's very different from an increased risk of suicide. |
Anonymous
| The Prosecutors Podcast (which is amazing, btw!) is doing this case right now. |
Anonymous
I don't think anybody can say that mental health challenges or drug use could cause the injuries described. Unless they are part of a group of people trying to cover up the most obvious murder in recent memory. The sheer number and positions of multiple stab wounds preclude suicide. The medical examiner who changed homicide to suicide quietly moved out and up to the (presumably) much more desirable Palm Beach job from (presumably) less desirable Philly. The (alleged) connections of the fiance to one or more highly influential judges in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, strange order and content of phone calls immediately after he "discovered" her body, subsequent refusals of the highly political Philly DA and Pennsylvania State Attorney General to even look at the case, and so on, points towards something far darker than the mental well-being or prescriptions of the deceased. The fiance was an NBC producer and Comcast (now Xfinity), the owner of NBC, is headquartered in and an extraordinarily powerful influence in Philly. Not unlike a Disney in Orlando. Comcast's acquisition of NBC was pending when the murder occurred (announced on December 3, 2009, and was completed on March 19, 2013). Not insinuating of course that Comcast had any part of the skullduggery, but things that make big companies look unseemly regularly get swept under the rug. Add in a few powerful judges and politicians and the deck was stacked against that poor woman. This case needs daylight, and lots of it. |
Anonymous
She is sleeping with a violent sociopath. |
Anonymous
And he's still got his (presumably) high-paying Xfinity/Good Channel producer's job (LinkedIn) Xfinity/NBC Dateline won't touch a corporate stablemate. No Keith Morrison to lay out the details. |