WSJ 2022 College Ranking

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:1 Harvard University
2 Stanford University
3 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
4 Yale University
5 Duke University
6 Brown University
7 California Institute of Technology
8 Princeton University
9 Johns Hopkins University
9 Northwestern University
11 Cornell University
12 University of Pennsylvania
13 Dartmouth College
14 The University of Chicago
15 Vanderbilt University
16 Columbia University
17 Washington University in St Louis
18 Rice University
19 University of Southern California
20 Emory University


21. Carnegie Mellon
22. Amherst
23. Williams
24. Michigan
25. Pomona
26. NYU
27. UCLA
28. Notre Dame
29. Swarthmore
30. Tufts
31. Wellesley
32. Georgetown
33. UNC
34. Claremont McKenna
35. Carleton
36. Cal
36. Haverford
38. Bowdoin
39. Smith
40. UC Davis
40. Middlebury
42. BU
43. UC San Diego
43. Wesleyan
45. Illinois
45. Washington
47. West Point
48. Purdue
49. Miami
50. Barnard

55. UVA
63. Richmond
73. W&L
78. W&M
104. VA Tech

75. Navy
80. Maryland
204. Washington College
223. Loyola
260. UMBC

72. GW
109. Howard
138. American
154. Catholic


West Point and Navy are around T50.

This list is made by WSJ and Times of London. I don’t think the UK people know much about the US schools.l. It looks as if they didn’t bother googling to learn about the schools they are ranking.

U like that it combines LAC's. I just think some of you feel LACs are better than they actually are. It's not the 90's anymore. The national privates have passed them.


You do realize that the ranking methodology is inherently anti-LAC, right?
* Research papers per faculty (8%) - This is more of a reflection of PhD+ level research, which LACs do not emphasize by their nature
* Number of accredited programs (3%)
* Academic reputation (10%) - Unlike US News, whose reputation surveys are based on the institution classification, WSJ polls all administrators. How many are honestly familiar with individual LACs?

That Amherst, Williams, and Pomona made the top 25 despite that is pretty impressive.
Anonymous
*I like.... On the above comment.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:More accurate than US News. I'm safely assuming WSJ doesn't juke and social engineer their ranking with pointless diversity metrics.


Much more accurate than USNWR. Columbia is #16 in the WSJ rather than highly inaccurate #2 in USNWR.


How about Forbes? Columbia basher?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:More accurate than US News. I'm safely assuming WSJ doesn't juke and social engineer their ranking with pointless diversity metrics.


Much more accurate than USNWR. Columbia is #16 in the WSJ rather than highly inaccurate #2 in USNWR.



Relying on UK foreigners to rank US schools is like Americans ranking UK schools. This is on the same level as an American hick ranking oxford at #16 using some weird methodology.


Can't really take this ranking seriously when Princeton's engagement ranking is ranked 400+

According to WSJ/THE, the engagement metric is "drawn mostly from a student survey and with a 20% weight, examines views on things like teaching and interactions with faculty and other students"

Everyone knows Princeton has probably one of the best undergraduate teaching experience of all major universities.

Similarly, Williams and Amherst are also ranked 400+ while they literally are perceived by many as among the best in terms of small class sizes and faculty engagement. No one should take this ranking seriously except for maybe the Columbia bashers who have been spamming every single thread whenever the school gets a mention. Can we stop talking about Columbia just for one moment and focus on how inaccurate the rankings really are?

How do schools like Michigan or USC with 20,000+ undergraduates get ranked #4 in terms of student-to-faculty engagement? Just about every LAC is ranked in the hundreds, which is just so, so wrong.
Anonymous
Spot on PP, I was noticing something fishy here too. This is by far the most inaccurate ranking and is wrong on so many levels. For some odd reason, the schools that do focus on undergraduate teaching get heavily penalized while big universities with virtually no student to faculty interactions get bumped up so much in the rankings.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:More accurate than US News. I'm safely assuming WSJ doesn't juke and social engineer their ranking with pointless diversity metrics.


Much more accurate than USNWR. Columbia is #16 in the WSJ rather than highly inaccurate #2 in USNWR.



Relying on UK foreigners to rank US schools is like Americans ranking UK schools. This is on the same level as an American hick ranking oxford at #16 using some weird methodology.


Can't really take this ranking seriously when Princeton's engagement ranking is ranked 400+

According to WSJ/THE, the engagement metric is "drawn mostly from a student survey and with a 20% weight, examines views on things like teaching and interactions with faculty and other students"

Everyone knows Princeton has probably one of the best undergraduate teaching experience of all major universities.

Similarly, Williams and Amherst are also ranked 400+ while they literally are perceived by many as among the best in terms of small class sizes and faculty engagement. No one should take this ranking seriously except for maybe the Columbia bashers who have been spamming every single thread whenever the school gets a mention. Can we stop talking about Columbia just for one moment and focus on how inaccurate the rankings really are?

How do schools like Michigan or USC with 20,000+ undergraduates get ranked #4 in terms of student-to-faculty engagement? Just about every LAC is ranked in the hundreds, which is just so, so wrong.


+1. My thoughts exactly. Except for a few twisted individuals who derive satisfaction from putting down other schools, this is a really useless list. They can’t even get the most important metric right.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not a public university in the top 20.


Because real life != message boards full of circle-jerking striver moms who couldn't afford (or couldn't get their kid into) private college and do nothing but wax on and on about how amazing their kid's public U is. In real life, the smartest kids at Virginia, Berkeley, UCLA and Michigan are JEALOUS of their friends at elite private colleges.


This is silly. It is up to students not their parents to decide where they want to study. Our DC chose a top public over several higher ranked private options listed here so 9ky because the public was much stronger in desired field.

So much depends on what they want to study.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately these rankings are proving themselves to be bullshit and pointless. Literally nobody is choosing Northwestern or Hopkins over Columbia, Penn, Cornell, and Dartmouth. And no, I'm not going to get into a debate with you cringe broken record trolls about "lower Ivies."
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My kid chose WUSTL over Penn and Cornell.
Anonymous
This ranking makes sense to me
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Ranked Ten Best College Marching bands:

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How about this ranking to add to the list.


Go Gators!
Anonymous
The schools that are in the top 10 for this year’s US News, Forbes and WSJ college rankings are:

Harvard
Stanford
MIT
Yale
Princeton
Northwestern
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Please do not cite junk fake self-reported "data" from Parchment.


I don't believe it is self reported. It comes from participating high schools.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Please do not cite junk fake self-reported "data" from Parchment.


I don't believe it is self reported. It comes from participating high schools.


How would a high school know which colleges you got into or rejected from? That’s only told to the kid. Parchment allows kids to self report where they’re applying then it expects them to hop back on and click whether they got in, rejected or waitlisted. It’s junk.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Please do not cite junk fake self-reported "data" from Parchment.


I don't believe it is self reported. It comes from participating high schools.


How would a high school know which colleges you got into or rejected from? That’s only told to the kid. Parchment allows kids to self report where they’re applying then it expects them to hop back on and click whether they got in, rejected or waitlisted. It’s junk.


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