WSJ 2022 College Ranking

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:USC shouldn't be ranked ahead of Emory, Cornell is a bit high, UPenn, U Chicago, and Columbia are too low. Other than that is a solid Ranking.


+1. So is Princeton. Duke and Brown are too high.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Please do not cite junk fake self-reported "data" from Parchment.


Please do not cite junk fake anonymous posts that shows how Northwestern or JHU is now more popular than the ivies.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately these rankings are proving themselves to be bullshit and pointless. Literally nobody is choosing Northwestern or Hopkins over Columbia, Penn, Cornell, and Dartmouth. And no, I'm not going to get into a debate with you cringe broken record trolls about "lower Ivies."


What? I know several kids who chose Northwestern and Hopkins over the schools you just listed, especially Cornell and Dartmouth. What are you smoking?


LOL. Northwestern booster here. Help!
Anonymous
Why is it so hard to just make a list sorting for the the sum of grads going into T14 law, US medical school, FAANG, elite PhD track, Wall Street front office, verified six-figure salary offer, things like that?

I safely assume that list would be:

Ivies, Stanford, MIT
Duke, Notre Dame, Rice

UChicago wouldn't be in the top 25.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why is it so hard to just make a list sorting for the the sum of grads going into T14 law, US medical school, FAANG, elite PhD track, Wall Street front office, verified six-figure salary offer, things like that?

I safely assume that list would be:

Ivies, Stanford, MIT
Duke, Notre Dame, Rice

UChicago wouldn't be in the top 25.


The data is out there to do this but for some reason they don't. College Scorecard uses federal tax returns for its salary details.
https://collegescorecard.ed.gov
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why is it so hard to just make a list sorting for the the sum of grads going into T14 law, US medical school, FAANG, elite PhD track, Wall Street front office, verified six-figure salary offer, things like that?

I safely assume that list would be:

Ivies, Stanford, MIT
Duke, Notre Dame, Rice

UChicago wouldn't be in the top 25.

Rice?!? Are you a Rice booster?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:USC shouldn't be ranked ahead of Emory, Cornell is a bit high, UPenn, U Chicago, and Columbia are too low. Other than that is a solid Ranking.


+1. So is Princeton. Duke and Brown are too high.

Princeton is ranked 1 on US news, it seems like everyone agrees it's the best.
Anonymous
Oh my god - who cares? So stupid.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why is it so hard to just make a list sorting for the the sum of grads going into T14 law, US medical school, FAANG, elite PhD track, Wall Street front office, verified six-figure salary offer, things like that?

I safely assume that list would be:

Ivies, Stanford, MIT
Duke, Notre Dame, Rice

UChicago wouldn't be in the top 25.


https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-law-school

T14 Law school (adjusted for undergrad enrollment):
1. Yale
2. Princeton
3. Amherst
4. Harvard
5. Chicago
6. Duke
7. Columbia
8. Georgetown
9. Pomona
10.Yeshiva
11. Stanford
12. Claremont McKenna
13. Swarthmore
14. Barnard
15. Dartmouth
16. Penn
17. Cornell
18. Northwestern
19. Williams
20. Wesleyan
21. Rice
22. WashU St. Louuis
23. Brown
24. Vanderbilt
25. Bowdoin

https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-medical-school

T25 US Medical School (Adjusted for undergrad enrollment):
1. Yale
2. Duke
3. Stanford
4. Johns Hopkins
5. Harvard
6. Princeton
7. Vanderbilt
8. Dartmouth
9. Rice
10. WashU - St. Louis
11. Amherst
12. MIT
13. Williams
14. Pomona
15. Swarthmore
16. Columbia
17. Northwestern
18. Brown
19. Penn
20. Emory
21. Davidson
22. Bowdoin
23. UChicago
24. Haverford
25. Case Western

https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-tech

T15 Tech Companies (Adobe, AirBnB, Apple, DocuSign, Github, Google, HubSpot, LinkedIn, Lyft, Microsoft, Netflix, NVIDIA, SalesForce, Slack, and Twitter), adjusted for undergrad enrollment
1. CMU
2. Stanford
3. Caltech
4. Harvey Mudd
5. Columbia
6. MIT
7. Georgia Tech
8. USC
9. Rice
10. Duke
11. Princeton
12. Berkeley
13. Cornell
14. Brown
15. Penn
16. Harvard
17. University of Washington
18. Santa Clara
19. Northwestern
20. Northeastern
21. Swarthmore
22. Yale
23. UCSD
24. UIUC
25. WashU - St. Louis
...
29. UChicago


https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-engineering

Top Engineering Companies (Amazon, Apple, Boeing, ExxonMobil, Google, Lockheed Martin, Microsoft, NASA, SpaceX, and Tesla), Adjusted for undergrad enrollment
1. CMU
2. Caltech
3. Columbia
4. Stanford
5. MIT
6. Georgia Tech
7. USC
8. Harvey Mudd
9. Olin
10. Rice
11. Duke
12. Cornell
13. Penn
14. WashU - St. Louis
15. Princeton
16. Rose Hulman
17. JHU
18. Brown
19. University of Washington
20. Berkeley
21. Northeastern
22. Santa Clara
23. UCSD
24. Northwestern
25. Harvard
UChicago not in top 30

https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-phd-programs

Top PhD Programs (Adjusted for undergrad enrollment)
1. Caltech
2. Harvey Mudd
3. Swarthmore
4. MIT
5. Carleton
6. Reed
7. Grinnell
8. Williams
9. Haverford
10. Pomona
11. St. Johns (Maryland)
12. UChicago
13. Vassar
14. Bryn Mawr
15. Princeton
16. Oberlin
17. Yale
18. Olin
19. Wesleyan
20. Amherst
21. Wellesley
22. Stanford
23. Whitman
24. Macalester
25. Kenyon

https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-banking

Top Wall Street firms (Goldman Sachs, Citi, JP Morgan, Bank of American Merrill Lynch, Morgan Stanley, Credit Suisse, Barclays, UBS, Evercore, Jefferies, Lazard, Moelis & Company, and Centerview Partners), Adjusted for Undergrad enrollment
1. Penn
2. Columbia
3. Harvard
4. UChicago
5. Yale
6. Georgetown
7. Dartmouth
8. Princeton
9. Duke
10. Williams
11. Claremont McKenna
12. Middlebury
13. Amherst
14. Brown
15. Washington and Lee
16. Cornell
17. Notre Dame
18. Stanford
19. Boston
20. Vanderbilt
21. Emory
22. Bowdoin
23. NYU
24. Colgate
25. SMU

https://pitchbook.com/news/articles/pitchbook-universities-2020

Top Universities for Startups (undergraduate, raw numbers)
1. Stanford
2. Berkeley
3. MIT
4. Harvard
5. Penn
6. Cornell
7. Michigan
8. Tel Aviv
9. UTexas-Austin
10. UIUC
11. Yale
12. Israel Institute of Technology
13. Princeton
14. UCLA
15. Columbia
16. Brown
17. Wisconsin
18. USC
19. CMU
20. Duke
21. BYU
22. University of Waterloo
23. NYU
24. University of Washington
25. Dartmouth
UChicago not in top 50

So it seems like UChicago is a good choice if you want to go to law school, wall street, and PhD. Sucks at STEM, but not too surprising since they don't really have an engineering school.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why is it so hard to just make a list sorting for the the sum of grads going into T14 law, US medical school, FAANG, elite PhD track, Wall Street front office, verified six-figure salary offer, things like that?

I safely assume that list would be:

Ivies, Stanford, MIT
Duke, Notre Dame, Rice

UChicago wouldn't be in the top 25.

Rice?!? Are you a Rice booster?


Rice is actually doing better than a lot of the schools (including ivies) in placing its grads at top tech and engineering companies.
Anonymous
Beware, there's an unhinged Northwestern/UChicago hater with a massive chip on their shoulder that trawls these forums.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Beware, there's an unhinged Northwestern/UChicago hater with a massive chip on their shoulder that trawls these forums.


PP, there's more than just one...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why is it so hard to just make a list sorting for the the sum of grads going into T14 law, US medical school, FAANG, elite PhD track, Wall Street front office, verified six-figure salary offer, things like that?

I safely assume that list would be:

Ivies, Stanford, MIT
Duke, Notre Dame, Rice

UChicago wouldn't be in the top 25.


https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-law-school

T14 Law school (adjusted for undergrad enrollment):
1. Yale
2. Princeton
3. Amherst
4. Harvard
5. Chicago
6. Duke
7. Columbia
8. Georgetown
9. Pomona
10.Yeshiva
11. Stanford
12. Claremont McKenna
13. Swarthmore
14. Barnard
15. Dartmouth
16. Penn
17. Cornell
18. Northwestern
19. Williams
20. Wesleyan
21. Rice
22. WashU St. Louuis
23. Brown
24. Vanderbilt
25. Bowdoin

https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-medical-school

T25 US Medical School (Adjusted for undergrad enrollment):
1. Yale
2. Duke
3. Stanford
4. Johns Hopkins
5. Harvard
6. Princeton
7. Vanderbilt
8. Dartmouth
9. Rice
10. WashU - St. Louis
11. Amherst
12. MIT
13. Williams
14. Pomona
15. Swarthmore
16. Columbia
17. Northwestern
18. Brown
19. Penn
20. Emory
21. Davidson
22. Bowdoin
23. UChicago
24. Haverford
25. Case Western

https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-tech

T15 Tech Companies (Adobe, AirBnB, Apple, DocuSign, Github, Google, HubSpot, LinkedIn, Lyft, Microsoft, Netflix, NVIDIA, SalesForce, Slack, and Twitter), adjusted for undergrad enrollment
1. CMU
2. Stanford
3. Caltech
4. Harvey Mudd
5. Columbia
6. MIT
7. Georgia Tech
8. USC
9. Rice
10. Duke
11. Princeton
12. Berkeley
13. Cornell
14. Brown
15. Penn
16. Harvard
17. University of Washington
18. Santa Clara
19. Northwestern
20. Northeastern
21. Swarthmore
22. Yale
23. UCSD
24. UIUC
25. WashU - St. Louis
...
29. UChicago


https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-engineering

Top Engineering Companies (Amazon, Apple, Boeing, ExxonMobil, Google, Lockheed Martin, Microsoft, NASA, SpaceX, and Tesla), Adjusted for undergrad enrollment
1. CMU
2. Caltech
3. Columbia
4. Stanford
5. MIT
6. Georgia Tech
7. USC
8. Harvey Mudd
9. Olin
10. Rice
11. Duke
12. Cornell
13. Penn
14. WashU - St. Louis
15. Princeton
16. Rose Hulman
17. JHU
18. Brown
19. University of Washington
20. Berkeley
21. Northeastern
22. Santa Clara
23. UCSD
24. Northwestern
25. Harvard
UChicago not in top 30

https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-phd-programs

Top PhD Programs (Adjusted for undergrad enrollment)
1. Caltech
2. Harvey Mudd
3. Swarthmore
4. MIT
5. Carleton
6. Reed
7. Grinnell
8. Williams
9. Haverford
10. Pomona
11. St. Johns (Maryland)
12. UChicago
13. Vassar
14. Bryn Mawr
15. Princeton
16. Oberlin
17. Yale
18. Olin
19. Wesleyan
20. Amherst
21. Wellesley
22. Stanford
23. Whitman
24. Macalester
25. Kenyon

https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-banking

Top Wall Street firms (Goldman Sachs, Citi, JP Morgan, Bank of American Merrill Lynch, Morgan Stanley, Credit Suisse, Barclays, UBS, Evercore, Jefferies, Lazard, Moelis & Company, and Centerview Partners), Adjusted for Undergrad enrollment
1. Penn
2. Columbia
3. Harvard
4. UChicago
5. Yale
6. Georgetown
7. Dartmouth
8. Princeton
9. Duke
10. Williams
11. Claremont McKenna
12. Middlebury
13. Amherst
14. Brown
15. Washington and Lee
16. Cornell
17. Notre Dame
18. Stanford
19. Boston
20. Vanderbilt
21. Emory
22. Bowdoin
23. NYU
24. Colgate
25. SMU

https://pitchbook.com/news/articles/pitchbook-universities-2020

Top Universities for Startups (undergraduate, raw numbers)
1. Stanford
2. Berkeley
3. MIT
4. Harvard
5. Penn
6. Cornell
7. Michigan
8. Tel Aviv
9. UTexas-Austin
10. UIUC
11. Yale
12. Israel Institute of Technology
13. Princeton
14. UCLA
15. Columbia
16. Brown
17. Wisconsin
18. USC
19. CMU
20. Duke
21. BYU
22. University of Waterloo
23. NYU
24. University of Washington
25. Dartmouth
UChicago not in top 50

So it seems like UChicago is a good choice if you want to go to law school, wall street, and PhD. Sucks at STEM, but not too surprising since they don't really have an engineering school.


What a fantastic post. And U of C is pumping that T14 list by now admitting like 100 (?) U of C undergrads a year into their own law school. A good deal if you don't mind staying in south side Chicago from age 18 to 25.

And while I appreciate the details of each category, I wish there was a master sum of all, which then spit out a ranking.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why is it so hard to just make a list sorting for the the sum of grads going into T14 law, US medical school, FAANG, elite PhD track, Wall Street front office, verified six-figure salary offer, things like that?

I safely assume that list would be:

Ivies, Stanford, MIT
Duke, Notre Dame, Rice

UChicago wouldn't be in the top 25.


https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-law-school

T14 Law school (adjusted for undergrad enrollment):
1. Yale
2. Princeton
3. Amherst
4. Harvard
5. Chicago
6. Duke
7. Columbia
8. Georgetown
9. Pomona
10.Yeshiva
11. Stanford
12. Claremont McKenna
13. Swarthmore
14. Barnard
15. Dartmouth
16. Penn
17. Cornell
18. Northwestern
19. Williams
20. Wesleyan
21. Rice
22. WashU St. Louuis
23. Brown
24. Vanderbilt
25. Bowdoin

https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-medical-school

T25 US Medical School (Adjusted for undergrad enrollment):
1. Yale
2. Duke
3. Stanford
4. Johns Hopkins
5. Harvard
6. Princeton
7. Vanderbilt
8. Dartmouth
9. Rice
10. WashU - St. Louis
11. Amherst
12. MIT
13. Williams
14. Pomona
15. Swarthmore
16. Columbia
17. Northwestern
18. Brown
19. Penn
20. Emory
21. Davidson
22. Bowdoin
23. UChicago
24. Haverford
25. Case Western

https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-tech

T15 Tech Companies (Adobe, AirBnB, Apple, DocuSign, Github, Google, HubSpot, LinkedIn, Lyft, Microsoft, Netflix, NVIDIA, SalesForce, Slack, and Twitter), adjusted for undergrad enrollment
1. CMU
2. Stanford
3. Caltech
4. Harvey Mudd
5. Columbia
6. MIT
7. Georgia Tech
8. USC
9. Rice
10. Duke
11. Princeton
12. Berkeley
13. Cornell
14. Brown
15. Penn
16. Harvard
17. University of Washington
18. Santa Clara
19. Northwestern
20. Northeastern
21. Swarthmore
22. Yale
23. UCSD
24. UIUC
25. WashU - St. Louis
...
29. UChicago


https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-engineering

Top Engineering Companies (Amazon, Apple, Boeing, ExxonMobil, Google, Lockheed Martin, Microsoft, NASA, SpaceX, and Tesla), Adjusted for undergrad enrollment
1. CMU
2. Caltech
3. Columbia
4. Stanford
5. MIT
6. Georgia Tech
7. USC
8. Harvey Mudd
9. Olin
10. Rice
11. Duke
12. Cornell
13. Penn
14. WashU - St. Louis
15. Princeton
16. Rose Hulman
17. JHU
18. Brown
19. University of Washington
20. Berkeley
21. Northeastern
22. Santa Clara
23. UCSD
24. Northwestern
25. Harvard
UChicago not in top 30

https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-phd-programs

Top PhD Programs (Adjusted for undergrad enrollment)
1. Caltech
2. Harvey Mudd
3. Swarthmore
4. MIT
5. Carleton
6. Reed
7. Grinnell
8. Williams
9. Haverford
10. Pomona
11. St. Johns (Maryland)
12. UChicago
13. Vassar
14. Bryn Mawr
15. Princeton
16. Oberlin
17. Yale
18. Olin
19. Wesleyan
20. Amherst
21. Wellesley
22. Stanford
23. Whitman
24. Macalester
25. Kenyon

https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-banking

Top Wall Street firms (Goldman Sachs, Citi, JP Morgan, Bank of American Merrill Lynch, Morgan Stanley, Credit Suisse, Barclays, UBS, Evercore, Jefferies, Lazard, Moelis & Company, and Centerview Partners), Adjusted for Undergrad enrollment
1. Penn
2. Columbia
3. Harvard
4. UChicago
5. Yale
6. Georgetown
7. Dartmouth
8. Princeton
9. Duke
10. Williams
11. Claremont McKenna
12. Middlebury
13. Amherst
14. Brown
15. Washington and Lee
16. Cornell
17. Notre Dame
18. Stanford
19. Boston
20. Vanderbilt
21. Emory
22. Bowdoin
23. NYU
24. Colgate
25. SMU

https://pitchbook.com/news/articles/pitchbook-universities-2020

Top Universities for Startups (undergraduate, raw numbers)
1. Stanford
2. Berkeley
3. MIT
4. Harvard
5. Penn
6. Cornell
7. Michigan
8. Tel Aviv
9. UTexas-Austin
10. UIUC
11. Yale
12. Israel Institute of Technology
13. Princeton
14. UCLA
15. Columbia
16. Brown
17. Wisconsin
18. USC
19. CMU
20. Duke
21. BYU
22. University of Waterloo
23. NYU
24. University of Washington
25. Dartmouth
UChicago not in top 50

So it seems like UChicago is a good choice if you want to go to law school, wall street, and PhD. Sucks at STEM, but not too surprising since they don't really have an engineering school.


What a fantastic post. And U of C is pumping that T14 list by now admitting like 100 (?) U of C undergrads a year into their own law school. A good deal if you don't mind staying in south side Chicago from age 18 to 25.

And while I appreciate the details of each category, I wish there was a master sum of all, which then spit out a ranking.


You're not wrong, PP. They admit about 50 per class. While I don't have stats for all the top law schools, here is what I can find, thanks to the internet. Undergraduate representation at the University of Chicago Law School and Yale Law School.

https://chicagounbound.uchicago.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1135&context=lawschoolannouncements

2020-2021 Chicago law school undergrad representation, by the numbers:

1. Chicago (45)
2. Berkeley (20)
3. Northwestern (18)
4. Yale (16)
5. UCLA (15)
5. Duke (15)
5. Cornell (15)
8. Brown (14)
9. Columbia (13)
9. Harvard (13)
11. Georgetown (12)
11. Texas-Austin (12)
13. USC (11)
13. UFlorida (11)
15. Washington University - St. Louis (10)
15. UMichigan (10)
15. Stanford (10)
15. BYU (10)
and the rest are in single digits

https://chicagounbound.uchicago.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1135&context=lawschoolannouncements

2019-2020 Chicago law school undergrad representation, by the numbers:

1. Chicago (42)
2. Georgetown (18)
3. UCLA (17)
4. Berkeley (16)
4. Northwestern (16)
6. Yale (15)
7. Harvard (14)
8. Cornell (13)
9. BYU (12)
9. Penn (12)
9. Washington U - St. Louis (12)
12. Duke (11)
12. UFlorida (11)
14. Columbia (10)
14. Princeton (10)
and the rest are in single digits.

https://chicagounbound.uchicago.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1133&context=lawschoolannouncements

2018-2019 Chicago law school undergrad representation, by the numbers:

1. Chicago (42)
2. UCLA (20)
3. Penn (17)
3. Berkeley (17)
5. Georgetown (16)
5. Duke (16)
7. Cornell (14)
8. BYU (13)
8. Northwestern (13)
8. UFlorida (13)
11. Harvard (12)
12. Princeton (11)
13. Columbia (10)
13. Wisconsin-Madison (10),

https://bulletin.yale.edu/sites/default/files/yale-law-school-2019-2020.pdf

2019-2020 Yale Law School undergrad representation (the last year Yale ever released the numbers):

1. Yale (90)
2. Harvard (54)
3. Columbia (34)
4. Princeton (31)
5. Stanford (22)
6. Dartmouth (21)
7. Cornell (19)
8. Chicago (18)
9. Brown (17)
10. Pennsylvania (16)
11. Georgetown (13)
11. Berkeley (13)
13. Duke (10)

https://bulletin.yale.edu/sites/default/files/yale-law-school-2018-2019.pdf

2018-2019 Yale Law School undergrad representation:

1. Yale (85)
2. Harvard (54)
3. Columbia (29)
4. Princeton (27)
5. Dartmouth (25)
6. Stanford (18)
6. Brown (18)
8. Chicago (16)
9. Penn (15)
10. Berkeley (14)
11. Duke (12)
11. Cornell (12)
13. Amherst (11)
14. Northwestern (10)

https://bulletin.yale.edu/sites/default/files/yale-law-school-2017-2018.pdf

2017-2018 Yale Law School undergrad representation:

1. Yale (78)
2. Harvard (70)
3. Columbia (34)
3. Princeton (34)
5. Dartmouth (28)
6. Brown (21)
7. Berkeley (18)
8. Penn (16)
9. Amherst (14)
9. Williams (14)
9. Cornell (14)
12. Chicago (13)
13. NYU (10)
13. Stanford (10)
Anonymous
Haha Columbia
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