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Anonymous
I don't think this should be a reason not to join a development academy. Maybe at the older ages if they want to play for their high school team, but at the younger ages it doesn't seem very restrictive at all. I know plenty of players from all of the local DAs, including Bethesda, Virginia Development Academy, McLean, Arlington, and DC United Academy, who are still currently playing for their other clubs in their spare time. Not just supplemental training but also guest playing in competitive matches, for clubs like DCFA, Joga / SMI, VA United FC, and DC Athletico / dca club. So it doesn't seem like the DA rules are getting in the way at all, nor should they - if it's supposed to be about "development" rather than laying claim to 12 year olds like they are some kind of property. |
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Anonymous
This is not accurate. There are Full Time DA players. Players who are actually on the DA roster AND there are also "DPs" (Development Players). Think of DP's as "pool players" that are allowed to play in games and practice with the DA team but are not on the roster. These kids that you know are likely DP's and NOT Full Time DA players. Full Time DA players are not allowed to participate in any outside soccer other than USTC or YNT activities regardless of age. |
Anonymous
No, the OP is right. I've seen it too - in person and also in social media posts. There are definitely full time, rostered DA players doing this. Not just DPs. Some of the DA coaches apparently also coach at these other clubs, so maybe that helps them get permission. |
Anonymous
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^^ coaches don't give permission. This is against DA rules.
They could lose their DA status if they are doing this. DA players are also banned from State Cup play. |
Anonymous
It is more likely that you are unaware of the real status of another player. It is against the rule for full time rostered players but not against the rule for DPs. Parents are more likely overstate their kids level of play than they are to risk their kid losing a spot on the DA. Perhaps you might want to seek some clarification from these parents. |
Anonymous
| How is everyone's Winter games going? How is the league/program that you are in? How's the competition? Any teams that you have been impressed with? Are the kids having fun/learning? Are parents acting crazy or just enjoying the games. |
Anonymous
My kids are having fun and I don't care two hoots about the "competition". I think playing some futsal and other sports keeps it light and fun albeit it is a bit more hectic. |
Anonymous
No clarification needed. I'm an 04 parent. Not DA yet but my kid's played with or against a lot of these players over the years. The ussoccerda.com website has all the rosters and it makes it clear which are DPs and which are full DA. 100% there are full DA players doing this and nobody's trying to hide it. Joga has thousands of followers on social media, including the DOCs of all the local DA clubs. In November he posted photos of a Joga team playing in Barcelona. The Joga coach in the pictures is also an assistant coach with Bethesda's DA team. The #10 for Bethesda's 04 DA team was there, and so were Arlington and McLean DA players. There's a video on youtube of the Atletico DC team playing in the 3v3 national championships in November. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1XO8ffEYUg. The players are all Arlington and DC United DA players. The #18 used to play on my kid's club. They won the whole thing so kudos to them. Shows those clubs must be doing something right. That team is coached by Ken Krieger - the head of Arlington's DA. That's listed publicly on their website dcaclub.com and on gotsoccer: http://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/team.aspx?TeamID=965866&History=yes&compact=. They also post a lot of this stuff on instagram. Do you really think they would be doing all of that if they thought they were risking their DA status? It's the same everywhere. VDA's #10 is playing for at least 2 different indoor teams this winter. |
Anonymous
They are DA Developmental players NOT full time DA. Accept that truth and all if this will be easier. But answer this, If one is DA and practicing 4 days a week with that DA team, why would they be with another club? |
Anonymous
The DA allows for off season futsal that does not contradict anything I've said or break any DA rules. But those are not sanctioned leagues. |
Anonymous
That's what I have heard as well -- although it's not really advertised -- that as long as they keep their club commitments first they are free to do what they want in the offseason. I was surprised to see that extend to guest playing in outdoor tournaments though. I don't know if it still is but the Vegas Cup used to be a pretty big deal. |
Anonymous
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I'm still confused. I understand that they are U12s and none of this matters, blah blah blah....but based on DA rules, are some kids labeled full DA and some Developmental and if so, how can you tell from the profile. If these kids are full DA, are they violating the DA rules? Thanks.
PS: Laurel is beautiful this time of year. Lucky you! : ) |
Anonymous
Full DA players have a roster#. Developmental players have "#DP" instead. http://beth.ussoccerda.com/sam/teams/index.php?team=1645586 |
Anonymous
| Thanks. The kids I recognize from what I watched of the video are all noted as FT and not DP on Arlington's roster. I'm sure the DC United kid is FT as well. So was it confirmed that all of these extracurricular activities within the DA rules? Like someone said, this is one of the reasons some kids don't want to do DA. Too restricted. They might not even be able to do a fun little 3v3 tournament. Congrats to these kids winning it though. |