Anyone get telework approved at SEC?

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Anonymous wrote:^Yes finding another job is an option but the reality is for most people it won't be quick. YMMV but everyone I know that's been able to leave and be gainfully employed - so not leaving to retire or be a stay home parent - is either very senior/like SO level or very young, as in can go to any biglaw firm as a 2nd-4th yr associate. That leaves a ton of 30-50 somethings all looking for the same opportunities. Not saying one should be defeatist and say oh well it'll never happen but the reality is everyone could be here a while - so I see why people are trying to figure out the boundaries/stretch the boundaries etc to make this workable.

I think there’s also an attitude that the SEC is the only place they can work, and they can’t accept that the terms of employment have changed and it’s time to move on. Many government employees are risk adverse and the prospect of changing jobs is scary. There is also a certain entitlement about what they deserve working for the SEC.

I’d guarantee that most SEC employees complaining and trying to stretch boundaries haven’t even worked on their resume.

Omg yes. I’ve worked here for a long time but not as long as most of my coworkers - 8 yrs. In my mind you always keep your resume sharp, keep networking bc you never know when you’ll need or want to leave a place. And even with all that there’s no guarantee of a job ASAP unless you’re an SO or 2nd year associate. My colleagues maybe they are working on resumes, networking etc, I obviously don’t know what anyone is doing. But on the surface it looks like a TON of time and energy is being spent complaining about RTO, worrying about how much telework they can get away with, planning days off etc.

Yes. I can empathize as I lost my job with the financial crisis. I had to move cities and practically start a new career. Plenty of people have done something similar. To sit back and insist you must live in DC and work for the SEC is likely a bad decision.

If you want to come out of this ahead, you work on your resume, network and interview for any good job with a salary you can accept. This includes in any metro in the US.

For whatever reason there seem to be hoards of government employees (I am including SEC) who are too good to look for a new job or consider relocating. Just read the post going in about how challenging it is to find a new job. Of course it is! But millions of Americans start new jobs every year. SEC employees are not so special that they can’t also do so.

My prediction is that next on the list will be heavily monitoring employee computer usage, badge swipes and massive RIFs.

I assumed badge swipes are already being monitored? At least my group is functioning that way - very nervous to be out of the building for 31 minutes. But in any event yeah few years after the recession, I didn’t get promoted at an up and out company and got pushed out so I’ve always been of the - nothing is forever, be prepared to move or start over - view of the world, even in a “good” government job like SEC. That is not at all my coworkers’ view as best I can tell.

It’s not. They thought they were set for life with a cushy $250k job with WFH 3x a week and you can’t get fired.

Clearly, you had a problem with their prosperity and work/life balance. The reason we are in this situation as a country is because of people like you, you are so f**ked up in the head that nothing less of devastation to others bring you any comfort. BTW, I am not a fed but I am a sane, decent person. I hope you get all the karma coming your way.

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Anonymous wrote:^Yes finding another job is an option but the reality is for most people it won't be quick. YMMV but everyone I know that's been able to leave and be gainfully employed - so not leaving to retire or be a stay home parent - is either very senior/like SO level or very young, as in can go to any biglaw firm as a 2nd-4th yr associate. That leaves a ton of 30-50 somethings all looking for the same opportunities. Not saying one should be defeatist and say oh well it'll never happen but the reality is everyone could be here a while - so I see why people are trying to figure out the boundaries/stretch the boundaries etc to make this workable.

I think there’s also an attitude that the SEC is the only place they can work, and they can’t accept that the terms of employment have changed and it’s time to move on. Many government employees are risk adverse and the prospect of changing jobs is scary. There is also a certain entitlement about what they deserve working for the SEC.

I’d guarantee that most SEC employees complaining and trying to stretch boundaries haven’t even worked on their resume.

Omg yes. I’ve worked here for a long time but not as long as most of my coworkers - 8 yrs. In my mind you always keep your resume sharp, keep networking bc you never know when you’ll need or want to leave a place. And even with all that there’s no guarantee of a job ASAP unless you’re an SO or 2nd year associate. My colleagues maybe they are working on resumes, networking etc, I obviously don’t know what anyone is doing. But on the surface it looks like a TON of time and energy is being spent complaining about RTO, worrying about how much telework they can get away with, planning days off etc.

Yes. I can empathize as I lost my job with the financial crisis. I had to move cities and practically start a new career. Plenty of people have done something similar. To sit back and insist you must live in DC and work for the SEC is likely a bad decision.

If you want to come out of this ahead, you work on your resume, network and interview for any good job with a salary you can accept. This includes in any metro in the US.

For whatever reason there seem to be hoards of government employees (I am including SEC) who are too good to look for a new job or consider relocating. Just read the post going in about how challenging it is to find a new job. Of course it is! But millions of Americans start new jobs every year. SEC employees are not so special that they can’t also do so.

My prediction is that next on the list will be heavily monitoring employee computer usage, badge swipes and massive RIFs.

I assumed badge swipes are already being monitored? At least my group is functioning that way - very nervous to be out of the building for 31 minutes. But in any event yeah few years after the recession, I didn’t get promoted at an up and out company and got pushed out so I’ve always been of the - nothing is forever, be prepared to move or start over - view of the world, even in a “good” government job like SEC. That is not at all my coworkers’ view as best I can tell.

It’s not. They thought they were set for life with a cushy $250k job with WFH 3x a week and you can’t get fired.

Clearly, you had a problem with their prosperity and work/life balance. The reason we are in this situation as a country is because of people like you, you are so f**ked up in the head that nothing less of devastation to others bring you any comfort. BTW, I am not a fed but I am a sane, decent person. I hope you get all the karma coming your way.

These are quite some accusations you’re making here. Such extremism.

I AM a fed. I think SEC employees should look for new jobs. That’s all. Nothing lasts forever and I think unfortunately many SEC employees thought it would.

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Anonymous wrote:^Yes finding another job is an option but the reality is for most people it won't be quick. YMMV but everyone I know that's been able to leave and be gainfully employed - so not leaving to retire or be a stay home parent - is either very senior/like SO level or very young, as in can go to any biglaw firm as a 2nd-4th yr associate. That leaves a ton of 30-50 somethings all looking for the same opportunities. Not saying one should be defeatist and say oh well it'll never happen but the reality is everyone could be here a while - so I see why people are trying to figure out the boundaries/stretch the boundaries etc to make this workable.

I think there’s also an attitude that the SEC is the only place they can work, and they can’t accept that the terms of employment have changed and it’s time to move on. Many government employees are risk adverse and the prospect of changing jobs is scary. There is also a certain entitlement about what they deserve working for the SEC.

I’d guarantee that most SEC employees complaining and trying to stretch boundaries haven’t even worked on their resume.

Omg yes. I’ve worked here for a long time but not as long as most of my coworkers - 8 yrs. In my mind you always keep your resume sharp, keep networking bc you never know when you’ll need or want to leave a place. And even with all that there’s no guarantee of a job ASAP unless you’re an SO or 2nd year associate. My colleagues maybe they are working on resumes, networking etc, I obviously don’t know what anyone is doing. But on the surface it looks like a TON of time and energy is being spent complaining about RTO, worrying about how much telework they can get away with, planning days off etc.

Yes. I can empathize as I lost my job with the financial crisis. I had to move cities and practically start a new career. Plenty of people have done something similar. To sit back and insist you must live in DC and work for the SEC is likely a bad decision.

If you want to come out of this ahead, you work on your resume, network and interview for any good job with a salary you can accept. This includes in any metro in the US.

For whatever reason there seem to be hoards of government employees (I am including SEC) who are too good to look for a new job or consider relocating. Just read the post going in about how challenging it is to find a new job. Of course it is! But millions of Americans start new jobs every year. SEC employees are not so special that they can’t also do so.

My prediction is that next on the list will be heavily monitoring employee computer usage, badge swipes and massive RIFs.

I assumed badge swipes are already being monitored? At least my group is functioning that way - very nervous to be out of the building for 31 minutes. But in any event yeah few years after the recession, I didn’t get promoted at an up and out company and got pushed out so I’ve always been of the - nothing is forever, be prepared to move or start over - view of the world, even in a “good” government job like SEC. That is not at all my coworkers’ view as best I can tell.

It’s not. They thought they were set for life with a cushy $250k job with WFH 3x a week and you can’t get fired.

Clearly, you had a problem with their prosperity and work/life balance. The reason we are in this situation as a country is because of people like you, you are so f**ked up in the head that nothing less of devastation to others bring you any comfort. BTW, I am not a fed but I am a sane, decent person. I hope you get all the karma coming your way.

These are quite some accusations you’re making here. Such extremism.

I AM a fed. I think SEC employees should look for new jobs. That’s all. Nothing lasts forever and I think unfortunately many SEC employees thought it would.

Why should SEC employees look for new jobs?

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Anonymous wrote:^Yes finding another job is an option but the reality is for most people it won't be quick. YMMV but everyone I know that's been able to leave and be gainfully employed - so not leaving to retire or be a stay home parent - is either very senior/like SO level or very young, as in can go to any biglaw firm as a 2nd-4th yr associate. That leaves a ton of 30-50 somethings all looking for the same opportunities. Not saying one should be defeatist and say oh well it'll never happen but the reality is everyone could be here a while - so I see why people are trying to figure out the boundaries/stretch the boundaries etc to make this workable.

I think there’s also an attitude that the SEC is the only place they can work, and they can’t accept that the terms of employment have changed and it’s time to move on. Many government employees are risk adverse and the prospect of changing jobs is scary. There is also a certain entitlement about what they deserve working for the SEC.

I’d guarantee that most SEC employees complaining and trying to stretch boundaries haven’t even worked on their resume.

Omg yes. I’ve worked here for a long time but not as long as most of my coworkers - 8 yrs. In my mind you always keep your resume sharp, keep networking bc you never know when you’ll need or want to leave a place. And even with all that there’s no guarantee of a job ASAP unless you’re an SO or 2nd year associate. My colleagues maybe they are working on resumes, networking etc, I obviously don’t know what anyone is doing. But on the surface it looks like a TON of time and energy is being spent complaining about RTO, worrying about how much telework they can get away with, planning days off etc.

Yes. I can empathize as I lost my job with the financial crisis. I had to move cities and practically start a new career. Plenty of people have done something similar. To sit back and insist you must live in DC and work for the SEC is likely a bad decision.

If you want to come out of this ahead, you work on your resume, network and interview for any good job with a salary you can accept. This includes in any metro in the US.

For whatever reason there seem to be hoards of government employees (I am including SEC) who are too good to look for a new job or consider relocating. Just read the post going in about how challenging it is to find a new job. Of course it is! But millions of Americans start new jobs every year. SEC employees are not so special that they can’t also do so.

My prediction is that next on the list will be heavily monitoring employee computer usage, badge swipes and massive RIFs.

I assumed badge swipes are already being monitored? At least my group is functioning that way - very nervous to be out of the building for 31 minutes. But in any event yeah few years after the recession, I didn’t get promoted at an up and out company and got pushed out so I’ve always been of the - nothing is forever, be prepared to move or start over - view of the world, even in a “good” government job like SEC. That is not at all my coworkers’ view as best I can tell.

It’s not. They thought they were set for life with a cushy $250k job with WFH 3x a week and you can’t get fired.

Clearly, you had a problem with their prosperity and work/life balance. The reason we are in this situation as a country is because of people like you, you are so f**ked up in the head that nothing less of devastation to others bring you any comfort. BTW, I am not a fed but I am a sane, decent person. I hope you get all the karma coming your way.

These are quite some accusations you’re making here. Such extremism.

I AM a fed. I think SEC employees should look for new jobs. That’s all. Nothing lasts forever and I think unfortunately many SEC employees thought it would.

Why should SEC employees look for new jobs?

If they are unhappy with their current job and/or they worry their current job will disappear or get less appealing.

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Anonymous wrote:^Yes finding another job is an option but the reality is for most people it won't be quick. YMMV but everyone I know that's been able to leave and be gainfully employed - so not leaving to retire or be a stay home parent - is either very senior/like SO level or very young, as in can go to any biglaw firm as a 2nd-4th yr associate. That leaves a ton of 30-50 somethings all looking for the same opportunities. Not saying one should be defeatist and say oh well it'll never happen but the reality is everyone could be here a while - so I see why people are trying to figure out the boundaries/stretch the boundaries etc to make this workable.

I think there’s also an attitude that the SEC is the only place they can work, and they can’t accept that the terms of employment have changed and it’s time to move on. Many government employees are risk adverse and the prospect of changing jobs is scary. There is also a certain entitlement about what they deserve working for the SEC.

I’d guarantee that most SEC employees complaining and trying to stretch boundaries haven’t even worked on their resume.

Omg yes. I’ve worked here for a long time but not as long as most of my coworkers - 8 yrs. In my mind you always keep your resume sharp, keep networking bc you never know when you’ll need or want to leave a place. And even with all that there’s no guarantee of a job ASAP unless you’re an SO or 2nd year associate. My colleagues maybe they are working on resumes, networking etc, I obviously don’t know what anyone is doing. But on the surface it looks like a TON of time and energy is being spent complaining about RTO, worrying about how much telework they can get away with, planning days off etc.

Yes. I can empathize as I lost my job with the financial crisis. I had to move cities and practically start a new career. Plenty of people have done something similar. To sit back and insist you must live in DC and work for the SEC is likely a bad decision.

If you want to come out of this ahead, you work on your resume, network and interview for any good job with a salary you can accept. This includes in any metro in the US.

For whatever reason there seem to be hoards of government employees (I am including SEC) who are too good to look for a new job or consider relocating. Just read the post going in about how challenging it is to find a new job. Of course it is! But millions of Americans start new jobs every year. SEC employees are not so special that they can’t also do so.

My prediction is that next on the list will be heavily monitoring employee computer usage, badge swipes and massive RIFs.

I assumed badge swipes are already being monitored? At least my group is functioning that way - very nervous to be out of the building for 31 minutes. But in any event yeah few years after the recession, I didn’t get promoted at an up and out company and got pushed out so I’ve always been of the - nothing is forever, be prepared to move or start over - view of the world, even in a “good” government job like SEC. That is not at all my coworkers’ view as best I can tell.

It’s not. They thought they were set for life with a cushy $250k job with WFH 3x a week and you can’t get fired.

Clearly, you had a problem with their prosperity and work/life balance. The reason we are in this situation as a country is because of people like you, you are so f**ked up in the head that nothing less of devastation to others bring you any comfort. BTW, I am not a fed but I am a sane, decent person. I hope you get all the karma coming your way.

These are quite some accusations you’re making here. Such extremism.

I AM a fed. I think SEC employees should look for new jobs. That’s all. Nothing lasts forever and I think unfortunately many SEC employees thought it would.

So you are sitting at another agency doing all of this mind-reading of SEC employees based on what now?

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I agree with this. The number of people who keep complaining instead of recognizing the situation and just moving onto what might be a better fit is shocking. Complain all you want but it’s going to fall on deaf ears. The SEC doesn’t care about retaining talent, employee morale, etc. as seen by the sheer # of people they permitted to take DRP, VERA, VSIP, they’re actively trying to downsize. Wake up!

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Anonymous wrote:^Yes finding another job is an option but the reality is for most people it won't be quick. YMMV but everyone I know that's been able to leave and be gainfully employed - so not leaving to retire or be a stay home parent - is either very senior/like SO level or very young, as in can go to any biglaw firm as a 2nd-4th yr associate. That leaves a ton of 30-50 somethings all looking for the same opportunities. Not saying one should be defeatist and say oh well it'll never happen but the reality is everyone could be here a while - so I see why people are trying to figure out the boundaries/stretch the boundaries etc to make this workable.

I think there’s also an attitude that the SEC is the only place they can work, and they can’t accept that the terms of employment have changed and it’s time to move on. Many government employees are risk adverse and the prospect of changing jobs is scary. There is also a certain entitlement about what they deserve working for the SEC.

I’d guarantee that most SEC employees complaining and trying to stretch boundaries haven’t even worked on their resume.

Omg yes. I’ve worked here for a long time but not as long as most of my coworkers - 8 yrs. In my mind you always keep your resume sharp, keep networking bc you never know when you’ll need or want to leave a place. And even with all that there’s no guarantee of a job ASAP unless you’re an SO or 2nd year associate. My colleagues maybe they are working on resumes, networking etc, I obviously don’t know what anyone is doing. But on the surface it looks like a TON of time and energy is being spent complaining about RTO, worrying about how much telework they can get away with, planning days off etc.

Yes. I can empathize as I lost my job with the financial crisis. I had to move cities and practically start a new career. Plenty of people have done something similar. To sit back and insist you must live in DC and work for the SEC is likely a bad decision.

If you want to come out of this ahead, you work on your resume, network and interview for any good job with a salary you can accept. This includes in any metro in the US.

For whatever reason there seem to be hoards of government employees (I am including SEC) who are too good to look for a new job or consider relocating. Just read the post going in about how challenging it is to find a new job. Of course it is! But millions of Americans start new jobs every year. SEC employees are not so special that they can’t also do so.

My prediction is that next on the list will be heavily monitoring employee computer usage, badge swipes and massive RIFs.

I assumed badge swipes are already being monitored? At least my group is functioning that way - very nervous to be out of the building for 31 minutes. But in any event yeah few years after the recession, I didn’t get promoted at an up and out company and got pushed out so I’ve always been of the - nothing is forever, be prepared to move or start over - view of the world, even in a “good” government job like SEC. That is not at all my coworkers’ view as best I can tell.

It’s not. They thought they were set for life with a cushy $250k job with WFH 3x a week and you can’t get fired.

Clearly, you had a problem with their prosperity and work/life balance. The reason we are in this situation as a country is because of people like you, you are so f**ked up in the head that nothing less of devastation to others bring you any comfort. BTW, I am not a fed but I am a sane, decent person. I hope you get all the karma coming your way.

These are quite some accusations you’re making here. Such extremism.

I AM a fed. I think SEC employees should look for new jobs. That’s all. Nothing lasts forever and I think unfortunately many SEC employees thought it would.

Why should SEC employees look for new jobs?

If they are unhappy with their current job and/or they worry their current job will disappear or get less appealing.

and how exactly is it a good thing if the best at the SEC leave?

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Anonymous wrote:^Yes finding another job is an option but the reality is for most people it won't be quick. YMMV but everyone I know that's been able to leave and be gainfully employed - so not leaving to retire or be a stay home parent - is either very senior/like SO level or very young, as in can go to any biglaw firm as a 2nd-4th yr associate. That leaves a ton of 30-50 somethings all looking for the same opportunities. Not saying one should be defeatist and say oh well it'll never happen but the reality is everyone could be here a while - so I see why people are trying to figure out the boundaries/stretch the boundaries etc to make this workable.

I think there’s also an attitude that the SEC is the only place they can work, and they can’t accept that the terms of employment have changed and it’s time to move on. Many government employees are risk adverse and the prospect of changing jobs is scary. There is also a certain entitlement about what they deserve working for the SEC.

I’d guarantee that most SEC employees complaining and trying to stretch boundaries haven’t even worked on their resume.

Omg yes. I’ve worked here for a long time but not as long as most of my coworkers - 8 yrs. In my mind you always keep your resume sharp, keep networking bc you never know when you’ll need or want to leave a place. And even with all that there’s no guarantee of a job ASAP unless you’re an SO or 2nd year associate. My colleagues maybe they are working on resumes, networking etc, I obviously don’t know what anyone is doing. But on the surface it looks like a TON of time and energy is being spent complaining about RTO, worrying about how much telework they can get away with, planning days off etc.

Yes. I can empathize as I lost my job with the financial crisis. I had to move cities and practically start a new career. Plenty of people have done something similar. To sit back and insist you must live in DC and work for the SEC is likely a bad decision.

If you want to come out of this ahead, you work on your resume, network and interview for any good job with a salary you can accept. This includes in any metro in the US.

For whatever reason there seem to be hoards of government employees (I am including SEC) who are too good to look for a new job or consider relocating. Just read the post going in about how challenging it is to find a new job. Of course it is! But millions of Americans start new jobs every year. SEC employees are not so special that they can’t also do so.

My prediction is that next on the list will be heavily monitoring employee computer usage, badge swipes and massive RIFs.

I assumed badge swipes are already being monitored? At least my group is functioning that way - very nervous to be out of the building for 31 minutes. But in any event yeah few years after the recession, I didn’t get promoted at an up and out company and got pushed out so I’ve always been of the - nothing is forever, be prepared to move or start over - view of the world, even in a “good” government job like SEC. That is not at all my coworkers’ view as best I can tell.

It’s not. They thought they were set for life with a cushy $250k job with WFH 3x a week and you can’t get fired.

Clearly, you had a problem with their prosperity and work/life balance. The reason we are in this situation as a country is because of people like you, you are so f**ked up in the head that nothing less of devastation to others bring you any comfort. BTW, I am not a fed but I am a sane, decent person. I hope you get all the karma coming your way.

These are quite some accusations you’re making here. Such extremism.

I AM a fed. I think SEC employees should look for new jobs. That’s all. Nothing lasts forever and I think unfortunately many SEC employees thought it would.

Why should SEC employees look for new jobs?

If they are unhappy with their current job and/or they worry their current job will disappear or get less appealing.

and how exactly is it a good thing if the best at the SEC leave?

I didn’t say it was.

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Anonymous wrote:^Yes finding another job is an option but the reality is for most people it won't be quick. YMMV but everyone I know that's been able to leave and be gainfully employed - so not leaving to retire or be a stay home parent - is either very senior/like SO level or very young, as in can go to any biglaw firm as a 2nd-4th yr associate. That leaves a ton of 30-50 somethings all looking for the same opportunities. Not saying one should be defeatist and say oh well it'll never happen but the reality is everyone could be here a while - so I see why people are trying to figure out the boundaries/stretch the boundaries etc to make this workable.

I think there’s also an attitude that the SEC is the only place they can work, and they can’t accept that the terms of employment have changed and it’s time to move on. Many government employees are risk adverse and the prospect of changing jobs is scary. There is also a certain entitlement about what they deserve working for the SEC.

I’d guarantee that most SEC employees complaining and trying to stretch boundaries haven’t even worked on their resume.

Omg yes. I’ve worked here for a long time but not as long as most of my coworkers - 8 yrs. In my mind you always keep your resume sharp, keep networking bc you never know when you’ll need or want to leave a place. And even with all that there’s no guarantee of a job ASAP unless you’re an SO or 2nd year associate. My colleagues maybe they are working on resumes, networking etc, I obviously don’t know what anyone is doing. But on the surface it looks like a TON of time and energy is being spent complaining about RTO, worrying about how much telework they can get away with, planning days off etc.

Yes. I can empathize as I lost my job with the financial crisis. I had to move cities and practically start a new career. Plenty of people have done something similar. To sit back and insist you must live in DC and work for the SEC is likely a bad decision.

If you want to come out of this ahead, you work on your resume, network and interview for any good job with a salary you can accept. This includes in any metro in the US.

For whatever reason there seem to be hoards of government employees (I am including SEC) who are too good to look for a new job or consider relocating. Just read the post going in about how challenging it is to find a new job. Of course it is! But millions of Americans start new jobs every year. SEC employees are not so special that they can’t also do so.

My prediction is that next on the list will be heavily monitoring employee computer usage, badge swipes and massive RIFs.

I assumed badge swipes are already being monitored? At least my group is functioning that way - very nervous to be out of the building for 31 minutes. But in any event yeah few years after the recession, I didn’t get promoted at an up and out company and got pushed out so I’ve always been of the - nothing is forever, be prepared to move or start over - view of the world, even in a “good” government job like SEC. That is not at all my coworkers’ view as best I can tell.

It’s not. They thought they were set for life with a cushy $250k job with WFH 3x a week and you can’t get fired.

Let's be real, most people were on 1x day per pay period and even then they didn't show up until very recently. [Including my husband in that group and almost everyone in his division.]

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Anonymous wrote:^Yes finding another job is an option but the reality is for most people it won't be quick. YMMV but everyone I know that's been able to leave and be gainfully employed - so not leaving to retire or be a stay home parent - is either very senior/like SO level or very young, as in can go to any biglaw firm as a 2nd-4th yr associate. That leaves a ton of 30-50 somethings all looking for the same opportunities. Not saying one should be defeatist and say oh well it'll never happen but the reality is everyone could be here a while - so I see why people are trying to figure out the boundaries/stretch the boundaries etc to make this workable.

I think there’s also an attitude that the SEC is the only place they can work, and they can’t accept that the terms of employment have changed and it’s time to move on. Many government employees are risk adverse and the prospect of changing jobs is scary. There is also a certain entitlement about what they deserve working for the SEC.

I’d guarantee that most SEC employees complaining and trying to stretch boundaries haven’t even worked on their resume.

Omg yes. I’ve worked here for a long time but not as long as most of my coworkers - 8 yrs. In my mind you always keep your resume sharp, keep networking bc you never know when you’ll need or want to leave a place. And even with all that there’s no guarantee of a job ASAP unless you’re an SO or 2nd year associate. My colleagues maybe they are working on resumes, networking etc, I obviously don’t know what anyone is doing. But on the surface it looks like a TON of time and energy is being spent complaining about RTO, worrying about how much telework they can get away with, planning days off etc.

Yes. I can empathize as I lost my job with the financial crisis. I had to move cities and practically start a new career. Plenty of people have done something similar. To sit back and insist you must live in DC and work for the SEC is likely a bad decision.

If you want to come out of this ahead, you work on your resume, network and interview for any good job with a salary you can accept. This includes in any metro in the US.

For whatever reason there seem to be hoards of government employees (I am including SEC) who are too good to look for a new job or consider relocating. Just read the post going in about how challenging it is to find a new job. Of course it is! But millions of Americans start new jobs every year. SEC employees are not so special that they can’t also do so.

My prediction is that next on the list will be heavily monitoring employee computer usage, badge swipes and massive RIFs.

I assumed badge swipes are already being monitored? At least my group is functioning that way - very nervous to be out of the building for 31 minutes. But in any event yeah few years after the recession, I didn’t get promoted at an up and out company and got pushed out so I’ve always been of the - nothing is forever, be prepared to move or start over - view of the world, even in a “good” government job like SEC. That is not at all my coworkers’ view as best I can tell.

It’s not. They thought they were set for life with a cushy $250k job with WFH 3x a week and you can’t get fired.

Clearly, you had a problem with their prosperity and work/life balance. The reason we are in this situation as a country is because of people like you, you are so f**ked up in the head that nothing less of devastation to others bring you any comfort. BTW, I am not a fed but I am a sane, decent person. I hope you get all the karma coming your way.

These are quite some accusations you’re making here. Such extremism.

I AM a fed. I think SEC employees should look for new jobs. That’s all. Nothing lasts forever and I think unfortunately many SEC employees thought it would.

So you are sitting at another agency doing all of this mind-reading of SEC employees based on what now?

Based on some 30-odd pages of whining and complaining from SEC employees about how their CBA is no longer in effect (hello! that's every agency, but OK SEC's is "special"); based on how 1x day pp worked for everyone and no one needs to be back 5x per week to do their work (hello! that's every agency at the moment, but OK SEC is special); based on all the requirements of women working at the SEC who now have to juggle both their jobs and their commitments as mothers and wives (hello! that's every woman in the federal service who is married and with children, but OK SEC women are special); based on how they've NEVER had to do this before and their leadership should have taken a bullet for them on this (hello! that's every agency head in the federal service today, but OK SEC is yet again special). So I think maybe the PP is right and that these truly "special" employees should be looking for a new job to validate their special-ness.

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And all throughout those "special" posts we have been reminded many times that they are hirable at any moment, at any given practice that would be happy to take them, and then give them the flexibility that they cannot get at the SEC, with a much HIGHER pay ... yet when you ask them to move forward on that thought, there seems to be some hesitation.

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Anonymous wrote:^Yes finding another job is an option but the reality is for most people it won't be quick. YMMV but everyone I know that's been able to leave and be gainfully employed - so not leaving to retire or be a stay home parent - is either very senior/like SO level or very young, as in can go to any biglaw firm as a 2nd-4th yr associate. That leaves a ton of 30-50 somethings all looking for the same opportunities. Not saying one should be defeatist and say oh well it'll never happen but the reality is everyone could be here a while - so I see why people are trying to figure out the boundaries/stretch the boundaries etc to make this workable.

I think there’s also an attitude that the SEC is the only place they can work, and they can’t accept that the terms of employment have changed and it’s time to move on. Many government employees are risk adverse and the prospect of changing jobs is scary. There is also a certain entitlement about what they deserve working for the SEC.

I’d guarantee that most SEC employees complaining and trying to stretch boundaries haven’t even worked on their resume.

Omg yes. I’ve worked here for a long time but not as long as most of my coworkers - 8 yrs. In my mind you always keep your resume sharp, keep networking bc you never know when you’ll need or want to leave a place. And even with all that there’s no guarantee of a job ASAP unless you’re an SO or 2nd year associate. My colleagues maybe they are working on resumes, networking etc, I obviously don’t know what anyone is doing. But on the surface it looks like a TON of time and energy is being spent complaining about RTO, worrying about how much telework they can get away with, planning days off etc.

Yes. I can empathize as I lost my job with the financial crisis. I had to move cities and practically start a new career. Plenty of people have done something similar. To sit back and insist you must live in DC and work for the SEC is likely a bad decision.

If you want to come out of this ahead, you work on your resume, network and interview for any good job with a salary you can accept. This includes in any metro in the US.

For whatever reason there seem to be hoards of government employees (I am including SEC) who are too good to look for a new job or consider relocating. Just read the post going in about how challenging it is to find a new job. Of course it is! But millions of Americans start new jobs every year. SEC employees are not so special that they can’t also do so.

My prediction is that next on the list will be heavily monitoring employee computer usage, badge swipes and massive RIFs.

I assumed badge swipes are already being monitored? At least my group is functioning that way - very nervous to be out of the building for 31 minutes. But in any event yeah few years after the recession, I didn’t get promoted at an up and out company and got pushed out so I’ve always been of the - nothing is forever, be prepared to move or start over - view of the world, even in a “good” government job like SEC. That is not at all my coworkers’ view as best I can tell.

It’s not. They thought they were set for life with a cushy $250k job with WFH 3x a week and you can’t get fired.

Clearly, you had a problem with their prosperity and work/life balance. The reason we are in this situation as a country is because of people like you, you are so f**ked up in the head that nothing less of devastation to others bring you any comfort. BTW, I am not a fed but I am a sane, decent person. I hope you get all the karma coming your way.

These are quite some accusations you’re making here. Such extremism.

I AM a fed. I think SEC employees should look for new jobs. That’s all. Nothing lasts forever and I think unfortunately many SEC employees thought it would.

Why should SEC employees look for new jobs?

If they are unhappy with their current job and/or they worry their current job will disappear or get less appealing.

and how exactly is it a good thing if the best at the SEC leave?

The sad part is that the good talent has mostly left the building ... they left because they used the sort of prioritization that another poster discussed and did so in a thoughtful way and considered SEC to no longer be the place it once was. Those left are folks like the ones on this thread complaining and whining away because they cant actually get those jobs they keep referencing they can get if they left. It's those who use their time at home for many other things than actually doing SEC specific work during work hours.

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Anonymous wrote:^Yes finding another job is an option but the reality is for most people it won't be quick. YMMV but everyone I know that's been able to leave and be gainfully employed - so not leaving to retire or be a stay home parent - is either very senior/like SO level or very young, as in can go to any biglaw firm as a 2nd-4th yr associate. That leaves a ton of 30-50 somethings all looking for the same opportunities. Not saying one should be defeatist and say oh well it'll never happen but the reality is everyone could be here a while - so I see why people are trying to figure out the boundaries/stretch the boundaries etc to make this workable.

I think there’s also an attitude that the SEC is the only place they can work, and they can’t accept that the terms of employment have changed and it’s time to move on. Many government employees are risk adverse and the prospect of changing jobs is scary. There is also a certain entitlement about what they deserve working for the SEC.

I’d guarantee that most SEC employees complaining and trying to stretch boundaries haven’t even worked on their resume.

Omg yes. I’ve worked here for a long time but not as long as most of my coworkers - 8 yrs. In my mind you always keep your resume sharp, keep networking bc you never know when you’ll need or want to leave a place. And even with all that there’s no guarantee of a job ASAP unless you’re an SO or 2nd year associate. My colleagues maybe they are working on resumes, networking etc, I obviously don’t know what anyone is doing. But on the surface it looks like a TON of time and energy is being spent complaining about RTO, worrying about how much telework they can get away with, planning days off etc.

Yes. I can empathize as I lost my job with the financial crisis. I had to move cities and practically start a new career. Plenty of people have done something similar. To sit back and insist you must live in DC and work for the SEC is likely a bad decision.

If you want to come out of this ahead, you work on your resume, network and interview for any good job with a salary you can accept. This includes in any metro in the US.

For whatever reason there seem to be hoards of government employees (I am including SEC) who are too good to look for a new job or consider relocating. Just read the post going in about how challenging it is to find a new job. Of course it is! But millions of Americans start new jobs every year. SEC employees are not so special that they can’t also do so.

My prediction is that next on the list will be heavily monitoring employee computer usage, badge swipes and massive RIFs.

I assumed badge swipes are already being monitored? At least my group is functioning that way - very nervous to be out of the building for 31 minutes. But in any event yeah few years after the recession, I didn’t get promoted at an up and out company and got pushed out so I’ve always been of the - nothing is forever, be prepared to move or start over - view of the world, even in a “good” government job like SEC. That is not at all my coworkers’ view as best I can tell.

It’s not. They thought they were set for life with a cushy $250k job with WFH 3x a week and you can’t get fired.

Clearly, you had a problem with their prosperity and work/life balance. The reason we are in this situation as a country is because of people like you, you are so f**ked up in the head that nothing less of devastation to others bring you any comfort. BTW, I am not a fed but I am a sane, decent person. I hope you get all the karma coming your way.

These are quite some accusations you’re making here. Such extremism.

I AM a fed. I think SEC employees should look for new jobs. That’s all. Nothing lasts forever and I think unfortunately many SEC employees thought it would.

Why should SEC employees look for new jobs?

If they are unhappy with their current job and/or they worry their current job will disappear or get less appealing.

and how exactly is it a good thing if the best at the SEC leave?

The sad part is that the good talent has mostly left the building ... they left because they used the sort of prioritization that another poster discussed and did so in a thoughtful way and considered SEC to no longer be the place it once was. Those left are folks like the ones on this thread complaining and whining away because they cant actually get those jobs they keep referencing they can get if they left. It's those who use their time at home for many other things than actually doing SEC specific work during work hours.

You’re a real peach. Is that you doge?

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Anonymous wrote:^Yes finding another job is an option but the reality is for most people it won't be quick. YMMV but everyone I know that's been able to leave and be gainfully employed - so not leaving to retire or be a stay home parent - is either very senior/like SO level or very young, as in can go to any biglaw firm as a 2nd-4th yr associate. That leaves a ton of 30-50 somethings all looking for the same opportunities. Not saying one should be defeatist and say oh well it'll never happen but the reality is everyone could be here a while - so I see why people are trying to figure out the boundaries/stretch the boundaries etc to make this workable.

I think there’s also an attitude that the SEC is the only place they can work, and they can’t accept that the terms of employment have changed and it’s time to move on. Many government employees are risk adverse and the prospect of changing jobs is scary. There is also a certain entitlement about what they deserve working for the SEC.

I’d guarantee that most SEC employees complaining and trying to stretch boundaries haven’t even worked on their resume.

Omg yes. I’ve worked here for a long time but not as long as most of my coworkers - 8 yrs. In my mind you always keep your resume sharp, keep networking bc you never know when you’ll need or want to leave a place. And even with all that there’s no guarantee of a job ASAP unless you’re an SO or 2nd year associate. My colleagues maybe they are working on resumes, networking etc, I obviously don’t know what anyone is doing. But on the surface it looks like a TON of time and energy is being spent complaining about RTO, worrying about how much telework they can get away with, planning days off etc.

Yes. I can empathize as I lost my job with the financial crisis. I had to move cities and practically start a new career. Plenty of people have done something similar. To sit back and insist you must live in DC and work for the SEC is likely a bad decision.

If you want to come out of this ahead, you work on your resume, network and interview for any good job with a salary you can accept. This includes in any metro in the US.

For whatever reason there seem to be hoards of government employees (I am including SEC) who are too good to look for a new job or consider relocating. Just read the post going in about how challenging it is to find a new job. Of course it is! But millions of Americans start new jobs every year. SEC employees are not so special that they can’t also do so.

My prediction is that next on the list will be heavily monitoring employee computer usage, badge swipes and massive RIFs.

I assumed badge swipes are already being monitored? At least my group is functioning that way - very nervous to be out of the building for 31 minutes. But in any event yeah few years after the recession, I didn’t get promoted at an up and out company and got pushed out so I’ve always been of the - nothing is forever, be prepared to move or start over - view of the world, even in a “good” government job like SEC. That is not at all my coworkers’ view as best I can tell.

It’s not. They thought they were set for life with a cushy $250k job with WFH 3x a week and you can’t get fired.

Clearly, you had a problem with their prosperity and work/life balance. The reason we are in this situation as a country is because of people like you, you are so f**ked up in the head that nothing less of devastation to others bring you any comfort. BTW, I am not a fed but I am a sane, decent person. I hope you get all the karma coming your way.

These are quite some accusations you’re making here. Such extremism.

I AM a fed. I think SEC employees should look for new jobs. That’s all. Nothing lasts forever and I think unfortunately many SEC employees thought it would.

Why should SEC employees look for new jobs?

If they are unhappy with their current job and/or they worry their current job will disappear or get less appealing.

and how exactly is it a good thing if the best at the SEC leave?

The sad part is that the good talent has mostly left the building ... they left because they used the sort of prioritization that another poster discussed and did so in a thoughtful way and considered SEC to no longer be the place it once was. Those left are folks like the ones on this thread complaining and whining away because they cant actually get those jobs they keep referencing they can get if they left. It's those who use their time at home for many other things than actually doing SEC specific work during work hours.

You’re a real peach. Is that you doge?

No, but DOGE does have an email address they've made public. Maybe it's high time I anonymously send over the link for this thread. I think SEC needs some "large scale RIFs" to happen since so many of you are struggling with the new norm.

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Anonymous wrote:^Yes finding another job is an option but the reality is for most people it won't be quick. YMMV but everyone I know that's been able to leave and be gainfully employed - so not leaving to retire or be a stay home parent - is either very senior/like SO level or very young, as in can go to any biglaw firm as a 2nd-4th yr associate. That leaves a ton of 30-50 somethings all looking for the same opportunities. Not saying one should be defeatist and say oh well it'll never happen but the reality is everyone could be here a while - so I see why people are trying to figure out the boundaries/stretch the boundaries etc to make this workable.

I think there’s also an attitude that the SEC is the only place they can work, and they can’t accept that the terms of employment have changed and it’s time to move on. Many government employees are risk adverse and the prospect of changing jobs is scary. There is also a certain entitlement about what they deserve working for the SEC.

I’d guarantee that most SEC employees complaining and trying to stretch boundaries haven’t even worked on their resume.

Omg yes. I’ve worked here for a long time but not as long as most of my coworkers - 8 yrs. In my mind you always keep your resume sharp, keep networking bc you never know when you’ll need or want to leave a place. And even with all that there’s no guarantee of a job ASAP unless you’re an SO or 2nd year associate. My colleagues maybe they are working on resumes, networking etc, I obviously don’t know what anyone is doing. But on the surface it looks like a TON of time and energy is being spent complaining about RTO, worrying about how much telework they can get away with, planning days off etc.

Yes. I can empathize as I lost my job with the financial crisis. I had to move cities and practically start a new career. Plenty of people have done something similar. To sit back and insist you must live in DC and work for the SEC is likely a bad decision.

If you want to come out of this ahead, you work on your resume, network and interview for any good job with a salary you can accept. This includes in any metro in the US.

For whatever reason there seem to be hoards of government employees (I am including SEC) who are too good to look for a new job or consider relocating. Just read the post going in about how challenging it is to find a new job. Of course it is! But millions of Americans start new jobs every year. SEC employees are not so special that they can’t also do so.

My prediction is that next on the list will be heavily monitoring employee computer usage, badge swipes and massive RIFs.

I assumed badge swipes are already being monitored? At least my group is functioning that way - very nervous to be out of the building for 31 minutes. But in any event yeah few years after the recession, I didn’t get promoted at an up and out company and got pushed out so I’ve always been of the - nothing is forever, be prepared to move or start over - view of the world, even in a “good” government job like SEC. That is not at all my coworkers’ view as best I can tell.

It’s not. They thought they were set for life with a cushy $250k job with WFH 3x a week and you can’t get fired.

Clearly, you had a problem with their prosperity and work/life balance. The reason we are in this situation as a country is because of people like you, you are so f**ked up in the head that nothing less of devastation to others bring you any comfort. BTW, I am not a fed but I am a sane, decent person. I hope you get all the karma coming your way.

These are quite some accusations you’re making here. Such extremism.

I AM a fed. I think SEC employees should look for new jobs. That’s all. Nothing lasts forever and I think unfortunately many SEC employees thought it would.

Why should SEC employees look for new jobs?

If they are unhappy with their current job and/or they worry their current job will disappear or get less appealing.

and how exactly is it a good thing if the best at the SEC leave?

The sad part is that the good talent has mostly left the building ... they left because they used the sort of prioritization that another poster discussed and did so in a thoughtful way and considered SEC to no longer be the place it once was. Those left are folks like the ones on this thread complaining and whining away because they cant actually get those jobs they keep referencing they can get if they left. It's those who use their time at home for many other things than actually doing SEC specific work during work hours.

You’re a real peach. Is that you doge?

No, but DOGE does have an email address they've made public. Maybe it's high time I anonymously send over the link for this thread. I think SEC needs some "large scale RIFs" to happen since so many of you are struggling with the new norm.

Omg just do it already. We know you are itching to... As if Doge is unaware that people are complaining about their policies lol.