Anyone get telework approved at SEC?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For us it's very strictly applied. You have to have an appointment in the middle of the day such that you couldn't commit either earlier or later in the day and there has to be a pressing need for you to work that day vs just taking leave for the whole day. It is a very high bar to meet so we won't be doing it more than once every few months, if that.

Are you hearing this at SEC or someplace else?

So it's NEED to do work not just want to do work so as not to burn leave/not fall behind etc. I can see my group at SEC doing this. Like you need to take a mid day appt, fine use your leave. Oh there's a 1 hour outside call that day we want you on - fine you telework just that 1 hour and take leave for the other 7. I just don't see anyone senior going to that rigmarole as people get plenty of vacation time and many/most people are cutting all their travel anyway so it's not like they're saving up time for their 12 days in Europe this summer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For us it's very strictly applied. You have to have an appointment in the middle of the day such that you couldn't commit either earlier or later in the day and there has to be a pressing need for you to work that day vs just taking leave for the whole day. It is a very high bar to meet so we won't be doing it more than once every few months, if that.

Are you hearing this at SEC or someplace else?

So it's NEED to do work not just want to do work so as not to burn leave/not fall behind etc. I can see my group at SEC doing this. Like you need to take a mid day appt, fine use your leave. Oh there's a 1 hour outside call that day we want you on - fine you telework just that 1 hour and take leave for the other 7. I just don't see anyone senior going to that rigmarole as people get plenty of vacation time and many/most people are cutting all their travel anyway so it's not like they're saving up time for their 12 days in Europe this summer.

I am at the SEC and that is my groups policy. Right, it's not even worth it for me to beg to telework, I'll just take the whole day off. There is some support for this in KJs RTO FAQ where it talks about balancing the need for TW vs the person just taking leave although I don't think they had to be this strict about it. The managers are irritated about it too because the same policy applies to them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For us it's very strictly applied. You have to have an appointment in the middle of the day such that you couldn't commit either earlier or later in the day and there has to be a pressing need for you to work that day vs just taking leave for the whole day. It is a very high bar to meet so we won't be doing it more than once every few months, if that.

Are you hearing this at SEC or someplace else?

So it's NEED to do work not just want to do work so as not to burn leave/not fall behind etc. I can see my group at SEC doing this. Like you need to take a mid day appt, fine use your leave. Oh there's a 1 hour outside call that day we want you on - fine you telework just that 1 hour and take leave for the other 7. I just don't see anyone senior going to that rigmarole as people get plenty of vacation time and many/most people are cutting all their travel anyway so it's not like they're saving up time for their 12 days in Europe this summer.

I am at the SEC and that is my groups policy. Right, it's not even worth it for me to beg to telework, I'll just take the whole day off. There is some support for this in KJs RTO FAQ where it talks about balancing the need for TW vs the person just taking leave although I don't think they had to be this strict about it. The managers are irritated about it too because the same policy applies to them.

I guess this is bad for more junior people who maybe don't have as much leave stock piled. But for more senior people, fine. You really want me to take a whole day off because I needed to get my car serviced or go to the eye dr or deal with a car title at the DMV? The type of thing we're I'd take 1 hr off and work the other 7? Fine. Let productivity tank. I'm a full grown adult who had a whole career before this, I'm not begging to telework as if I'm asking my high school teacher for an extension bc the dog ate my homework.

[Anonymous]

Move closer to work if you can’t commute.

[Anonymous]

I have been back in the office for over a month, no one is teleworking 1 to 2 days per week. People are reporting daily to the office. A lot of people have moved to 5/4/9 schedules.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Move closer to work if you can’t commute.

Easy peasy. My middle school kids won’t mind if they get pulled from all their friends and activities, and of course I’ve got an extra 3-500k sitting around for housing, maybe more since I’d be giving up a 2.75 mortgage rate.

[Anonymous]

Hey, you have a good gig at the SEC with that extra geo pay etc. Figure out a way to get to the job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For us it's very strictly applied. You have to have an appointment in the middle of the day such that you couldn't commit either earlier or later in the day and there has to be a pressing need for you to work that day vs just taking leave for the whole day. It is a very high bar to meet so we won't be doing it more than once every few months, if that.

So if you have a medical appointment that takes 2 hours in the middle of the day, you need to take the whole day off? Can you take the whole day off as sick leave? Or 2 hours sick leave and 6 hours annual leave?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For us it's very strictly applied. You have to have an appointment in the middle of the day such that you couldn't commit either earlier or later in the day and there has to be a pressing need for you to work that day vs just taking leave for the whole day. It is a very high bar to meet so we won't be doing it more than once every few months, if that.

So if you have a medical appointment that takes 2 hours in the middle of the day, you need to take the whole day off? Can you take the whole day off as sick leave? Or 2 hours sick leave and 6 hours annual leave?

PP here and I think you're supposed to use 2 hours of sick leave (including any time commuting to/from the appointment) and the rest AL. That said, if it were me I would just say you're not feeling well that day and take the whole day off of sick leave. With all the germs my kids bring home I am some version of sick almost all the time.

[Anonymous]

Not being difficult, but isn’t this what “boomers” did ? If you had an appointment, you took leave? And didn’t expect telework? Like when did teleworking become this right? Yes, Covid. But that’s over. And previous generations dealt with having appointments. That’s what leave is for. Not trying to be difficult just pointing this out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not being difficult, but isn’t this what “boomers” did ? If you had an appointment, you took leave? And didn’t expect telework? Like when did teleworking become this right? Yes, Covid. But that’s over. And previous generations dealt with having appointments. That’s what leave is for. Not trying to be difficult just pointing this out.

We've had TW for over 20 years, long before COVID. I am the previous generation and I can't remember doing it differently.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not being difficult, but isn’t this what “boomers” did ? If you had an appointment, you took leave? And didn’t expect telework? Like when did teleworking become this right? Yes, Covid. But that’s over. And previous generations dealt with having appointments. That’s what leave is for. Not trying to be difficult just pointing this out.

There are lots of things that people used to just deal with but we don’t anymore because we have a better way to do them.

Also, telework was a right in the CBA, which is just being ignored.

[Anonymous]

Sick.outs.

[Anonymous]

I don’t think it’s accurate to call it a “right” (or else they wouldn’t have been able to get rid of it. Probably a privilege. I agree it sucks thag management did this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it’s accurate to call it a “right” (or else they wouldn’t have been able to get rid of it. Probably a privilege. I agree it sucks thag management did this.

Management is too busy sucking up to Doge. I mean we need to wear our badges at all times. We're still doing the 5 bullet points? Even FDA which has had massive RIFs is bringing back 2 day/wk telework and has told everyone that they're done with the bullets. Us nope - keep sucking up to OPM/DOGE/WH like the spineless leaders you are.

Paul has been confirmed. Where the hell is he? I realize a town hall doesn't come together the next day but not even an email to staff?