Anyone get telework approved at SEC?

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Anonymous wrote:^Yes finding another job is an option but the reality is for most people it won't be quick. YMMV but everyone I know that's been able to leave and be gainfully employed - so not leaving to retire or be a stay home parent - is either very senior/like SO level or very young, as in can go to any biglaw firm as a 2nd-4th yr associate. That leaves a ton of 30-50 somethings all looking for the same opportunities. Not saying one should be defeatist and say oh well it'll never happen but the reality is everyone could be here a while - so I see why people are trying to figure out the boundaries/stretch the boundaries etc to make this workable.

I think there’s also an attitude that the SEC is the only place they can work, and they can’t accept that the terms of employment have changed and it’s time to move on. Many government employees are risk adverse and the prospect of changing jobs is scary. There is also a certain entitlement about what they deserve working for the SEC.

I’d guarantee that most SEC employees complaining and trying to stretch boundaries haven’t even worked on their resume.

Omg yes. I’ve worked here for a long time but not as long as most of my coworkers - 8 yrs. In my mind you always keep your resume sharp, keep networking bc you never know when you’ll need or want to leave a place. And even with all that there’s no guarantee of a job ASAP unless you’re an SO or 2nd year associate. My colleagues maybe they are working on resumes, networking etc, I obviously don’t know what anyone is doing. But on the surface it looks like a TON of time and energy is being spent complaining about RTO, worrying about how much telework they can get away with, planning days off etc.

Yes. I can empathize as I lost my job with the financial crisis. I had to move cities and practically start a new career. Plenty of people have done something similar. To sit back and insist you must live in DC and work for the SEC is likely a bad decision.

If you want to come out of this ahead, you work on your resume, network and interview for any good job with a salary you can accept. This includes in any metro in the US.

For whatever reason there seem to be hoards of government employees (I am including SEC) who are too good to look for a new job or consider relocating. Just read the post going in about how challenging it is to find a new job. Of course it is! But millions of Americans start new jobs every year. SEC employees are not so special that they can’t also do so.

My prediction is that next on the list will be heavily monitoring employee computer usage, badge swipes and massive RIFs.

I assumed badge swipes are already being monitored? At least my group is functioning that way - very nervous to be out of the building for 31 minutes. But in any event yeah few years after the recession, I didn’t get promoted at an up and out company and got pushed out so I’ve always been of the - nothing is forever, be prepared to move or start over - view of the world, even in a “good” government job like SEC. That is not at all my coworkers’ view as best I can tell.

It’s not. They thought they were set for life with a cushy $250k job with WFH 3x a week and you can’t get fired.

Clearly, you had a problem with their prosperity and work/life balance. The reason we are in this situation as a country is because of people like you, you are so f**ked up in the head that nothing less of devastation to others bring you any comfort. BTW, I am not a fed but I am a sane, decent person. I hope you get all the karma coming your way.

These are quite some accusations you’re making here. Such extremism.

I AM a fed. I think SEC employees should look for new jobs. That’s all. Nothing lasts forever and I think unfortunately many SEC employees thought it would.

Why should SEC employees look for new jobs?

If they are unhappy with their current job and/or they worry their current job will disappear or get less appealing.

and how exactly is it a good thing if the best at the SEC leave?

The sad part is that the good talent has mostly left the building ... they left because they used the sort of prioritization that another poster discussed and did so in a thoughtful way and considered SEC to no longer be the place it once was. Those left are folks like the ones on this thread complaining and whining away because they cant actually get those jobs they keep referencing they can get if they left. It's those who use their time at home for many other things than actually doing SEC specific work during work hours.

You’re a real peach. Is that you doge?

No, but DOGE does have an email address they've made public. Maybe it's high time I anonymously send over the link for this thread. I think SEC needs some "large scale RIFs" to happen since so many of you are struggling with the new norm.

Omg just do it already. We know you are itching to... As if Doge is unaware that people are complaining about their policies lol.

Ok I will. I'm sure you aren't using your work computer to be on DCUM complaining about the new administration and its policies because splunk data would capture exactly who the employees are who are using DCUM and for how many hours in a day. Have a good day!

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I think some posters need to realize that the people working at the SEC and complaining are making the same complaints I see or hear other government workers making. Maybe this forum is SEC heavy, but these complaints about WFH, RTO, CBAs, applying for jobs, etc. all seem inline with what others are complaining about.

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Anonymous wrote:^Yes finding another job is an option but the reality is for most people it won't be quick. YMMV but everyone I know that's been able to leave and be gainfully employed - so not leaving to retire or be a stay home parent - is either very senior/like SO level or very young, as in can go to any biglaw firm as a 2nd-4th yr associate. That leaves a ton of 30-50 somethings all looking for the same opportunities. Not saying one should be defeatist and say oh well it'll never happen but the reality is everyone could be here a while - so I see why people are trying to figure out the boundaries/stretch the boundaries etc to make this workable.

I think there’s also an attitude that the SEC is the only place they can work, and they can’t accept that the terms of employment have changed and it’s time to move on. Many government employees are risk adverse and the prospect of changing jobs is scary. There is also a certain entitlement about what they deserve working for the SEC.

I’d guarantee that most SEC employees complaining and trying to stretch boundaries haven’t even worked on their resume.

Omg yes. I’ve worked here for a long time but not as long as most of my coworkers - 8 yrs. In my mind you always keep your resume sharp, keep networking bc you never know when you’ll need or want to leave a place. And even with all that there’s no guarantee of a job ASAP unless you’re an SO or 2nd year associate. My colleagues maybe they are working on resumes, networking etc, I obviously don’t know what anyone is doing. But on the surface it looks like a TON of time and energy is being spent complaining about RTO, worrying about how much telework they can get away with, planning days off etc.

Yes. I can empathize as I lost my job with the financial crisis. I had to move cities and practically start a new career. Plenty of people have done something similar. To sit back and insist you must live in DC and work for the SEC is likely a bad decision.

If you want to come out of this ahead, you work on your resume, network and interview for any good job with a salary you can accept. This includes in any metro in the US.

For whatever reason there seem to be hoards of government employees (I am including SEC) who are too good to look for a new job or consider relocating. Just read the post going in about how challenging it is to find a new job. Of course it is! But millions of Americans start new jobs every year. SEC employees are not so special that they can’t also do so.

My prediction is that next on the list will be heavily monitoring employee computer usage, badge swipes and massive RIFs.

I assumed badge swipes are already being monitored? At least my group is functioning that way - very nervous to be out of the building for 31 minutes. But in any event yeah few years after the recession, I didn’t get promoted at an up and out company and got pushed out so I’ve always been of the - nothing is forever, be prepared to move or start over - view of the world, even in a “good” government job like SEC. That is not at all my coworkers’ view as best I can tell.

It’s not. They thought they were set for life with a cushy $250k job with WFH 3x a week and you can’t get fired.

Clearly, you had a problem with their prosperity and work/life balance. The reason we are in this situation as a country is because of people like you, you are so f**ked up in the head that nothing less of devastation to others bring you any comfort. BTW, I am not a fed but I am a sane, decent person. I hope you get all the karma coming your way.

These are quite some accusations you’re making here. Such extremism.

I AM a fed. I think SEC employees should look for new jobs. That’s all. Nothing lasts forever and I think unfortunately many SEC employees thought it would.

Why should SEC employees look for new jobs?

If they are unhappy with their current job and/or they worry their current job will disappear or get less appealing.

and how exactly is it a good thing if the best at the SEC leave?

The sad part is that the good talent has mostly left the building ... they left because they used the sort of prioritization that another poster discussed and did so in a thoughtful way and considered SEC to no longer be the place it once was. Those left are folks like the ones on this thread complaining and whining away because they cant actually get those jobs they keep referencing they can get if they left. It's those who use their time at home for many other things than actually doing SEC specific work during work hours.

You’re a real peach. Is that you doge?

No, but DOGE does have an email address they've made public. Maybe it's high time I anonymously send over the link for this thread. I think SEC needs some "large scale RIFs" to happen since so many of you are struggling with the new norm.

Omg just do it already. We know you are itching to... As if Doge is unaware that people are complaining about their policies lol.

Ok I will. I'm sure you aren't using your work computer to be on DCUM complaining about the new administration and its policies because splunk data would capture exactly who the employees are who are using DCUM and for how many hours in a day. Have a good day!

and i'm of course sure that you would definitely not use any access you might have to a federal SIEM to monitor colleagues computing activities without a formal specific request from an auditor or the CIO, right? speaking of ways to get oneself in trouble.

everything is logged, my mans. everything.

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Anonymous wrote:^Yes finding another job is an option but the reality is for most people it won't be quick. YMMV but everyone I know that's been able to leave and be gainfully employed - so not leaving to retire or be a stay home parent - is either very senior/like SO level or very young, as in can go to any biglaw firm as a 2nd-4th yr associate. That leaves a ton of 30-50 somethings all looking for the same opportunities. Not saying one should be defeatist and say oh well it'll never happen but the reality is everyone could be here a while - so I see why people are trying to figure out the boundaries/stretch the boundaries etc to make this workable.

I think there’s also an attitude that the SEC is the only place they can work, and they can’t accept that the terms of employment have changed and it’s time to move on. Many government employees are risk adverse and the prospect of changing jobs is scary. There is also a certain entitlement about what they deserve working for the SEC.

I’d guarantee that most SEC employees complaining and trying to stretch boundaries haven’t even worked on their resume.

Omg yes. I’ve worked here for a long time but not as long as most of my coworkers - 8 yrs. In my mind you always keep your resume sharp, keep networking bc you never know when you’ll need or want to leave a place. And even with all that there’s no guarantee of a job ASAP unless you’re an SO or 2nd year associate. My colleagues maybe they are working on resumes, networking etc, I obviously don’t know what anyone is doing. But on the surface it looks like a TON of time and energy is being spent complaining about RTO, worrying about how much telework they can get away with, planning days off etc.

Yes. I can empathize as I lost my job with the financial crisis. I had to move cities and practically start a new career. Plenty of people have done something similar. To sit back and insist you must live in DC and work for the SEC is likely a bad decision.

If you want to come out of this ahead, you work on your resume, network and interview for any good job with a salary you can accept. This includes in any metro in the US.

For whatever reason there seem to be hoards of government employees (I am including SEC) who are too good to look for a new job or consider relocating. Just read the post going in about how challenging it is to find a new job. Of course it is! But millions of Americans start new jobs every year. SEC employees are not so special that they can’t also do so.

My prediction is that next on the list will be heavily monitoring employee computer usage, badge swipes and massive RIFs.

I assumed badge swipes are already being monitored? At least my group is functioning that way - very nervous to be out of the building for 31 minutes. But in any event yeah few years after the recession, I didn’t get promoted at an up and out company and got pushed out so I’ve always been of the - nothing is forever, be prepared to move or start over - view of the world, even in a “good” government job like SEC. That is not at all my coworkers’ view as best I can tell.

It’s not. They thought they were set for life with a cushy $250k job with WFH 3x a week and you can’t get fired.

Clearly, you had a problem with their prosperity and work/life balance. The reason we are in this situation as a country is because of people like you, you are so f**ked up in the head that nothing less of devastation to others bring you any comfort. BTW, I am not a fed but I am a sane, decent person. I hope you get all the karma coming your way.

These are quite some accusations you’re making here. Such extremism.

I AM a fed. I think SEC employees should look for new jobs. That’s all. Nothing lasts forever and I think unfortunately many SEC employees thought it would.

So you are sitting at another agency doing all of this mind-reading of SEC employees based on what now?

Based on some 30-odd pages of whining and complaining from SEC employees about how their CBA is no longer in effect (hello! that's every agency, but OK SEC's is "special"); based on how 1x day pp worked for everyone and no one needs to be back 5x per week to do their work (hello! that's every agency at the moment, but OK SEC is special); based on all the requirements of women working at the SEC who now have to juggle both their jobs and their commitments as mothers and wives (hello! that's every woman in the federal service who is married and with children, but OK SEC women are special); based on how they've NEVER had to do this before and their leadership should have taken a bullet for them on this (hello! that's every agency head in the federal service today, but OK SEC is yet again special). So I think maybe the PP is right and that these truly "special" employees should be looking for a new job to validate their special-ness.

You seem really unhappy. I'm sorry - I hope things get better for you.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree with this. The number of people who keep complaining instead of recognizing the situation and just moving onto what might be a better fit is shocking. Complain all you want but it’s going to fall on deaf ears. The SEC doesn’t care about retaining talent, employee morale, etc. as seen by the sheer # of people they permitted to take DRP, VERA, VSIP, they’re actively trying to downsize. Wake up!

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Nothing makes me want to leave more than the nasty demagogues on this thread.

I have been debating leaving because of how restrictive the RTO has been and what may be yet to come. The only reason I haven’t is to at I actually really enjoy and believe in doing mission-driven work. I also know that given my level of experience, it will take 6 months to a year to find the right opportunity.

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing makes me want to leave more than the nasty demagogues on this thread.

I have been debating leaving because of how restrictive the RTO has been and what may be yet to come. The only reason I haven’t is to at I actually really enjoy and believe in doing mission-driven work. I also know that given my level of experience, it will take 6 months to a year to find the right opportunity.

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Anonymous wrote:^Yes finding another job is an option but the reality is for most people it won't be quick. YMMV but everyone I know that's been able to leave and be gainfully employed - so not leaving to retire or be a stay home parent - is either very senior/like SO level or very young, as in can go to any biglaw firm as a 2nd-4th yr associate. That leaves a ton of 30-50 somethings all looking for the same opportunities. Not saying one should be defeatist and say oh well it'll never happen but the reality is everyone could be here a while - so I see why people are trying to figure out the boundaries/stretch the boundaries etc to make this workable.

I think there’s also an attitude that the SEC is the only place they can work, and they can’t accept that the terms of employment have changed and it’s time to move on. Many government employees are risk adverse and the prospect of changing jobs is scary. There is also a certain entitlement about what they deserve working for the SEC.

I’d guarantee that most SEC employees complaining and trying to stretch boundaries haven’t even worked on their resume.

Omg yes. I’ve worked here for a long time but not as long as most of my coworkers - 8 yrs. In my mind you always keep your resume sharp, keep networking bc you never know when you’ll need or want to leave a place. And even with all that there’s no guarantee of a job ASAP unless you’re an SO or 2nd year associate. My colleagues maybe they are working on resumes, networking etc, I obviously don’t know what anyone is doing. But on the surface it looks like a TON of time and energy is being spent complaining about RTO, worrying about how much telework they can get away with, planning days off etc.

Yes. I can empathize as I lost my job with the financial crisis. I had to move cities and practically start a new career. Plenty of people have done something similar. To sit back and insist you must live in DC and work for the SEC is likely a bad decision.

If you want to come out of this ahead, you work on your resume, network and interview for any good job with a salary you can accept. This includes in any metro in the US.

For whatever reason there seem to be hoards of government employees (I am including SEC) who are too good to look for a new job or consider relocating. Just read the post going in about how challenging it is to find a new job. Of course it is! But millions of Americans start new jobs every year. SEC employees are not so special that they can’t also do so.

My prediction is that next on the list will be heavily monitoring employee computer usage, badge swipes and massive RIFs.

I assumed badge swipes are already being monitored? At least my group is functioning that way - very nervous to be out of the building for 31 minutes. But in any event yeah few years after the recession, I didn’t get promoted at an up and out company and got pushed out so I’ve always been of the - nothing is forever, be prepared to move or start over - view of the world, even in a “good” government job like SEC. That is not at all my coworkers’ view as best I can tell.

It’s not. They thought they were set for life with a cushy $250k job with WFH 3x a week and you can’t get fired.

Clearly, you had a problem with their prosperity and work/life balance. The reason we are in this situation as a country is because of people like you, you are so f**ked up in the head that nothing less of devastation to others bring you any comfort. BTW, I am not a fed but I am a sane, decent person. I hope you get all the karma coming your way.

These are quite some accusations you’re making here. Such extremism.

I AM a fed. I think SEC employees should look for new jobs. That’s all. Nothing lasts forever and I think unfortunately many SEC employees thought it would.

Why should SEC employees look for new jobs?

If they are unhappy with their current job and/or they worry their current job will disappear or get less appealing.

and how exactly is it a good thing if the best at the SEC leave?

The sad part is that the good talent has mostly left the building ... they left because they used the sort of prioritization that another poster discussed and did so in a thoughtful way and considered SEC to no longer be the place it once was. Those left are folks like the ones on this thread complaining and whining away because they cant actually get those jobs they keep referencing they can get if they left. It's those who use their time at home for many other things than actually doing SEC specific work during work hours.

You’re a real peach. Is that you doge?

No, but DOGE does have an email address they've made public. Maybe it's high time I anonymously send over the link for this thread. I think SEC needs some "large scale RIFs" to happen since so many of you are struggling with the new norm.

Omg just do it already. We know you are itching to... As if Doge is unaware that people are complaining about their policies lol.

Ok I will. I'm sure you aren't using your work computer to be on DCUM complaining about the new administration and its policies because splunk data would capture exactly who the employees are who are using DCUM and for how many hours in a day. Have a good day!

and i'm of course sure that you would definitely not use any access you might have to a federal SIEM to monitor colleagues computing activities without a formal specific request from an auditor or the CIO, right? speaking of ways to get oneself in trouble.

everything is logged, my mans. everything.

Since you speak IT, have your IT connections check DOGE access at your agency. They have full access to splunk across every agency they’ve been at. And yes, we know how well this group has been following access privileges and requirements. I’m with you, sure it’s all above board and your CIO is sticking up for access and privilege, much like your leadership did for the CBA. Everyone is abiding by the law, evidently.

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Anonymous wrote:I think some posters need to realize that the people working at the SEC and complaining are making the same complaints I see or hear other government workers making. Maybe this forum is SEC heavy, but these complaints about WFH, RTO, CBAs, applying for jobs, etc. all seem inline with what others are complaining about.

The difference is that many of you sound entitled, privileged, and completely tone-deaf. And frankly, some of you come off as outright delusional—which makes me question just how intelligent you really are, despite being the highest-paid attorneys in the federal government.
This isn’t a “SEC-heavy” board, no matter how much you’d like to pretend it is. If you actually read the other posts, you'd see participation from employees across a wide range of agencies—financial regulators, independents, big and small. And unlike the SEC employees on this thread, they’re not flaunting arrogance or spending 30-odd pages complaining about the injustice of the current SEC situation. People are upset for good reason: they’re losing telework, dealing with CBAs in flux, watching their work-life balance collapse, and commuting two-plus hours to perform jobs they were hired to do remotely—while managing kids, breastfeeding infants, and making far less than the average SEC salary. But they aren’t writing long screeds elevating their own discomfort as though it’s uniquely catastrophic. That kind of self-aggrandizing is quite revealing. Frankly, like others here, I hope the SEC gets exactly what’s coming. I hope the IT guy turns you in. And if a RIF hits? So be it. There are plenty of qualified, grounded attorneys at CFPB, FDIC, FRB, OCC, and elsewhere who are more than ready to take your place—without the ego, the theatrics, or the martyr complex.

I never thought I’d say this about fellow federal employees, but if the axe falls on SEC, it may actually be a step toward restoring some humility and sanity in this workforce.

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Anonymous wrote:^Yes finding another job is an option but the reality is for most people it won't be quick. YMMV but everyone I know that's been able to leave and be gainfully employed - so not leaving to retire or be a stay home parent - is either very senior/like SO level or very young, as in can go to any biglaw firm as a 2nd-4th yr associate. That leaves a ton of 30-50 somethings all looking for the same opportunities. Not saying one should be defeatist and say oh well it'll never happen but the reality is everyone could be here a while - so I see why people are trying to figure out the boundaries/stretch the boundaries etc to make this workable.

I think there’s also an attitude that the SEC is the only place they can work, and they can’t accept that the terms of employment have changed and it’s time to move on. Many government employees are risk adverse and the prospect of changing jobs is scary. There is also a certain entitlement about what they deserve working for the SEC.

I’d guarantee that most SEC employees complaining and trying to stretch boundaries haven’t even worked on their resume.

Omg yes. I’ve worked here for a long time but not as long as most of my coworkers - 8 yrs. In my mind you always keep your resume sharp, keep networking bc you never know when you’ll need or want to leave a place. And even with all that there’s no guarantee of a job ASAP unless you’re an SO or 2nd year associate. My colleagues maybe they are working on resumes, networking etc, I obviously don’t know what anyone is doing. But on the surface it looks like a TON of time and energy is being spent complaining about RTO, worrying about how much telework they can get away with, planning days off etc.

Yes. I can empathize as I lost my job with the financial crisis. I had to move cities and practically start a new career. Plenty of people have done something similar. To sit back and insist you must live in DC and work for the SEC is likely a bad decision.

If you want to come out of this ahead, you work on your resume, network and interview for any good job with a salary you can accept. This includes in any metro in the US.

For whatever reason there seem to be hoards of government employees (I am including SEC) who are too good to look for a new job or consider relocating. Just read the post going in about how challenging it is to find a new job. Of course it is! But millions of Americans start new jobs every year. SEC employees are not so special that they can’t also do so.

My prediction is that next on the list will be heavily monitoring employee computer usage, badge swipes and massive RIFs.

I assumed badge swipes are already being monitored? At least my group is functioning that way - very nervous to be out of the building for 31 minutes. But in any event yeah few years after the recession, I didn’t get promoted at an up and out company and got pushed out so I’ve always been of the - nothing is forever, be prepared to move or start over - view of the world, even in a “good” government job like SEC. That is not at all my coworkers’ view as best I can tell.

It’s not. They thought they were set for life with a cushy $250k job with WFH 3x a week and you can’t get fired.

Clearly, you had a problem with their prosperity and work/life balance. The reason we are in this situation as a country is because of people like you, you are so f**ked up in the head that nothing less of devastation to others bring you any comfort. BTW, I am not a fed but I am a sane, decent person. I hope you get all the karma coming your way.

These are quite some accusations you’re making here. Such extremism.

I AM a fed. I think SEC employees should look for new jobs. That’s all. Nothing lasts forever and I think unfortunately many SEC employees thought it would.

So you are sitting at another agency doing all of this mind-reading of SEC employees based on what now?

Based on some 30-odd pages of whining and complaining from SEC employees about how their CBA is no longer in effect (hello! that's every agency, but OK SEC's is "special"); based on how 1x day pp worked for everyone and no one needs to be back 5x per week to do their work (hello! that's every agency at the moment, but OK SEC is special); based on all the requirements of women working at the SEC who now have to juggle both their jobs and their commitments as mothers and wives (hello! that's every woman in the federal service who is married and with children, but OK SEC women are special); based on how they've NEVER had to do this before and their leadership should have taken a bullet for them on this (hello! that's every agency head in the federal service today, but OK SEC is yet again special). So I think maybe the PP is right and that these truly "special" employees should be looking for a new job to validate their special-ness.

What is wrong with you? Feel free to start a thread about your own agency.

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Anonymous wrote:I think some posters need to realize that the people working at the SEC and complaining are making the same complaints I see or hear other government workers making. Maybe this forum is SEC heavy, but these complaints about WFH, RTO, CBAs, applying for jobs, etc. all seem inline with what others are complaining about.

The difference is that many of you sound entitled, privileged, and completely tone-deaf. And frankly, some of you come off as outright delusional—which makes me question just how intelligent you really are, despite being the highest-paid attorneys in the federal government.
This isn’t a “SEC-heavy” board, no matter how much you’d like to pretend it is. If you actually read the other posts, you'd see participation from employees across a wide range of agencies—financial regulators, independents, big and small. And unlike the SEC employees on this thread, they’re not flaunting arrogance or spending 30-odd pages complaining about the injustice of the current SEC situation. People are upset for good reason: they’re losing telework, dealing with CBAs in flux, watching their work-life balance collapse, and commuting two-plus hours to perform jobs they were hired to do remotely—while managing kids, breastfeeding infants, and making far less than the average SEC salary. But they aren’t writing long screeds elevating their own discomfort as though it’s uniquely catastrophic. That kind of self-aggrandizing is quite revealing. Frankly, like others here, I hope the SEC gets exactly what’s coming. I hope the IT guy turns you in. And if a RIF hits? So be it. There are plenty of qualified, grounded attorneys at CFPB, FDIC, FRB, OCC, and elsewhere who are more than ready to take your place—without the ego, the theatrics, or the martyr complex.

I never thought I’d say this about fellow federal employees, but if the axe falls on SEC, it may actually be a step toward restoring some humility and sanity in this workforce.

This is a thread about the SEC and you think it’s somehow bad that SEC staff are commenting? GTFO.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree with this. The number of people who keep complaining instead of recognizing the situation and just moving onto what might be a better fit is shocking. Complain all you want but it’s going to fall on deaf ears. The SEC doesn’t care about retaining talent, employee morale, etc. as seen by the sheer # of people they permitted to take DRP, VERA, VSIP, they’re actively trying to downsize. Wake up!

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Yes! This!

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Anonymous wrote:I think some posters need to realize that the people working at the SEC and complaining are making the same complaints I see or hear other government workers making. Maybe this forum is SEC heavy, but these complaints about WFH, RTO, CBAs, applying for jobs, etc. all seem inline with what others are complaining about.

The difference is that many of you sound entitled, privileged, and completely tone-deaf. And frankly, some of you come off as outright delusional—which makes me question just how intelligent you really are, despite being the highest-paid attorneys in the federal government.
This isn’t a “SEC-heavy” board, no matter how much you’d like to pretend it is. If you actually read the other posts, you'd see participation from employees across a wide range of agencies—financial regulators, independents, big and small. And unlike the SEC employees on this thread, they’re not flaunting arrogance or spending 30-odd pages complaining about the injustice of the current SEC situation. People are upset for good reason: they’re losing telework, dealing with CBAs in flux, watching their work-life balance collapse, and commuting two-plus hours to perform jobs they were hired to do remotely—while managing kids, breastfeeding infants, and making far less than the average SEC salary. But they aren’t writing long screeds elevating their own discomfort as though it’s uniquely catastrophic. That kind of self-aggrandizing is quite revealing. Frankly, like others here, I hope the SEC gets exactly what’s coming. I hope the IT guy turns you in. And if a RIF hits? So be it. There are plenty of qualified, grounded attorneys at CFPB, FDIC, FRB, OCC, and elsewhere who are more than ready to take your place—without the ego, the theatrics, or the martyr complex.

I never thought I’d say this about fellow federal employees, but if the axe falls on SEC, it may actually be a step toward restoring some humility and sanity in this workforce.

You are making confident, sweeping, mind-reading generalizations about a group of thousands of people based on an internet gossip thread that almost certainly has fewer than 50 SEC participants. And you are doing so with tremendous anger, bitterness, and myopia. I don't care what the answer is, but you might profitably pause for a moment and ask yourself why.

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Anonymous wrote:^Yes finding another job is an option but the reality is for most people it won't be quick. YMMV but everyone I know that's been able to leave and be gainfully employed - so not leaving to retire or be a stay home parent - is either very senior/like SO level or very young, as in can go to any biglaw firm as a 2nd-4th yr associate. That leaves a ton of 30-50 somethings all looking for the same opportunities. Not saying one should be defeatist and say oh well it'll never happen but the reality is everyone could be here a while - so I see why people are trying to figure out the boundaries/stretch the boundaries etc to make this workable.

I think there’s also an attitude that the SEC is the only place they can work, and they can’t accept that the terms of employment have changed and it’s time to move on. Many government employees are risk adverse and the prospect of changing jobs is scary. There is also a certain entitlement about what they deserve working for the SEC.

I’d guarantee that most SEC employees complaining and trying to stretch boundaries haven’t even worked on their resume.

Omg yes. I’ve worked here for a long time but not as long as most of my coworkers - 8 yrs. In my mind you always keep your resume sharp, keep networking bc you never know when you’ll need or want to leave a place. And even with all that there’s no guarantee of a job ASAP unless you’re an SO or 2nd year associate. My colleagues maybe they are working on resumes, networking etc, I obviously don’t know what anyone is doing. But on the surface it looks like a TON of time and energy is being spent complaining about RTO, worrying about how much telework they can get away with, planning days off etc.

Yes. I can empathize as I lost my job with the financial crisis. I had to move cities and practically start a new career. Plenty of people have done something similar. To sit back and insist you must live in DC and work for the SEC is likely a bad decision.

If you want to come out of this ahead, you work on your resume, network and interview for any good job with a salary you can accept. This includes in any metro in the US.

For whatever reason there seem to be hoards of government employees (I am including SEC) who are too good to look for a new job or consider relocating. Just read the post going in about how challenging it is to find a new job. Of course it is! But millions of Americans start new jobs every year. SEC employees are not so special that they can’t also do so.

My prediction is that next on the list will be heavily monitoring employee computer usage, badge swipes and massive RIFs.

I assumed badge swipes are already being monitored? At least my group is functioning that way - very nervous to be out of the building for 31 minutes. But in any event yeah few years after the recession, I didn’t get promoted at an up and out company and got pushed out so I’ve always been of the - nothing is forever, be prepared to move or start over - view of the world, even in a “good” government job like SEC. That is not at all my coworkers’ view as best I can tell.

It’s not. They thought they were set for life with a cushy $250k job with WFH 3x a week and you can’t get fired.

Clearly, you had a problem with their prosperity and work/life balance. The reason we are in this situation as a country is because of people like you, you are so f**ked up in the head that nothing less of devastation to others bring you any comfort. BTW, I am not a fed but I am a sane, decent person. I hope you get all the karma coming your way.

These are quite some accusations you’re making here. Such extremism.

I AM a fed. I think SEC employees should look for new jobs. That’s all. Nothing lasts forever and I think unfortunately many SEC employees thought it would.

Why should SEC employees look for new jobs?

If they are unhappy with their current job and/or they worry their current job will disappear or get less appealing.

and how exactly is it a good thing if the best at the SEC leave?

The sad part is that the good talent has mostly left the building ... they left because they used the sort of prioritization that another poster discussed and did so in a thoughtful way and considered SEC to no longer be the place it once was. Those left are folks like the ones on this thread complaining and whining away because they cant actually get those jobs they keep referencing they can get if they left. It's those who use their time at home for many other things than actually doing SEC specific work during work hours.

You’re a real peach. Is that you doge?

No, but DOGE does have an email address they've made public. Maybe it's high time I anonymously send over the link for this thread. I think SEC needs some "large scale RIFs" to happen since so many of you are struggling with the new norm.

Omg just do it already. We know you are itching to... As if Doge is unaware that people are complaining about their policies lol.

Ok I will. I'm sure you aren't using your work computer to be on DCUM complaining about the new administration and its policies because splunk data would capture exactly who the employees are who are using DCUM and for how many hours in a day. Have a good day!

You really have mental problems if you are going to report your fellow colleagues (if you are the angry SEC poster) over an anonymous Internet forum whose raison d'etre seems to be a place for people to complain. Sorry you are so triggered, please seek help. If you are the poster who claims she has 3 kids and has been back in office since 2022 or something and thinks it's all doable if we all just lean in, consider that maybe it is not working for you.

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Anonymous wrote:^Yes finding another job is an option but the reality is for most people it won't be quick. YMMV but everyone I know that's been able to leave and be gainfully employed - so not leaving to retire or be a stay home parent - is either very senior/like SO level or very young, as in can go to any biglaw firm as a 2nd-4th yr associate. That leaves a ton of 30-50 somethings all looking for the same opportunities. Not saying one should be defeatist and say oh well it'll never happen but the reality is everyone could be here a while - so I see why people are trying to figure out the boundaries/stretch the boundaries etc to make this workable.

I think there’s also an attitude that the SEC is the only place they can work, and they can’t accept that the terms of employment have changed and it’s time to move on. Many government employees are risk adverse and the prospect of changing jobs is scary. There is also a certain entitlement about what they deserve working for the SEC.

I’d guarantee that most SEC employees complaining and trying to stretch boundaries haven’t even worked on their resume.

Omg yes. I’ve worked here for a long time but not as long as most of my coworkers - 8 yrs. In my mind you always keep your resume sharp, keep networking bc you never know when you’ll need or want to leave a place. And even with all that there’s no guarantee of a job ASAP unless you’re an SO or 2nd year associate. My colleagues maybe they are working on resumes, networking etc, I obviously don’t know what anyone is doing. But on the surface it looks like a TON of time and energy is being spent complaining about RTO, worrying about how much telework they can get away with, planning days off etc.

Yes. I can empathize as I lost my job with the financial crisis. I had to move cities and practically start a new career. Plenty of people have done something similar. To sit back and insist you must live in DC and work for the SEC is likely a bad decision.

If you want to come out of this ahead, you work on your resume, network and interview for any good job with a salary you can accept. This includes in any metro in the US.

For whatever reason there seem to be hoards of government employees (I am including SEC) who are too good to look for a new job or consider relocating. Just read the post going in about how challenging it is to find a new job. Of course it is! But millions of Americans start new jobs every year. SEC employees are not so special that they can’t also do so.

My prediction is that next on the list will be heavily monitoring employee computer usage, badge swipes and massive RIFs.

I assumed badge swipes are already being monitored? At least my group is functioning that way - very nervous to be out of the building for 31 minutes. But in any event yeah few years after the recession, I didn’t get promoted at an up and out company and got pushed out so I’ve always been of the - nothing is forever, be prepared to move or start over - view of the world, even in a “good” government job like SEC. That is not at all my coworkers’ view as best I can tell.

It’s not. They thought they were set for life with a cushy $250k job with WFH 3x a week and you can’t get fired.

Clearly, you had a problem with their prosperity and work/life balance. The reason we are in this situation as a country is because of people like you, you are so f**ked up in the head that nothing less of devastation to others bring you any comfort. BTW, I am not a fed but I am a sane, decent person. I hope you get all the karma coming your way.

These are quite some accusations you’re making here. Such extremism.

I AM a fed. I think SEC employees should look for new jobs. That’s all. Nothing lasts forever and I think unfortunately many SEC employees thought it would.

Why should SEC employees look for new jobs?

If they are unhappy with their current job and/or they worry their current job will disappear or get less appealing.

and how exactly is it a good thing if the best at the SEC leave?

The sad part is that the good talent has mostly left the building ... they left because they used the sort of prioritization that another poster discussed and did so in a thoughtful way and considered SEC to no longer be the place it once was. Those left are folks like the ones on this thread complaining and whining away because they cant actually get those jobs they keep referencing they can get if they left. It's those who use their time at home for many other things than actually doing SEC specific work during work hours.

You’re a real peach. Is that you doge?

No, but DOGE does have an email address they've made public. Maybe it's high time I anonymously send over the link for this thread. I think SEC needs some "large scale RIFs" to happen since so many of you are struggling with the new norm.

Omg just do it already. We know you are itching to... As if Doge is unaware that people are complaining about their policies lol.

Ok I will. I'm sure you aren't using your work computer to be on DCUM complaining about the new administration and its policies because splunk data would capture exactly who the employees are who are using DCUM and for how many hours in a day. Have a good day!

I'll be waiting for that knock from Doge. Be careful not to get yourself RIF'ed!!